Cusashorn wrote:
Meirril wrote:Or maybe they will offer a ritual to turn back into an old school Euradite? I'd actually think about rolling an Euradite just to do that!Oh Quellious! If they allowed erudite players to transform back to what they were, do you have any idea how much players would ***** and whine about turning the Kerrans into Vah Shir?I mean, they already are right now, not accepting the fact that they are what they are, but this... this would just be anarchy on the message boards.Besides, I don't see any reason for them to change back. What would they benefit from it? The magic runes on thier bodies now serve a purpose itself by keeping them closer attuned to magic than they were before. Also: I take back my statement about the ritual being intentional. Who knows what may really have happened?
Meirril wrote:
Or maybe they will offer a ritual to turn back into an old school Euradite? I'd actually think about rolling an Euradite just to do that!
Oh Quellious! If they allowed erudite players to transform back to what they were, do you have any idea how much players would ***** and whine about turning the Kerrans into Vah Shir?
I mean, they already are right now, not accepting the fact that they are what they are, but this... this would just be anarchy on the message boards.
Besides, I don't see any reason for them to change back. What would they benefit from it? The magic runes on thier bodies now serve a purpose itself by keeping them closer attuned to magic than they were before.
Also: I take back my statement about the ritual being intentional. Who knows what may really have happened?
I think people would make an exception to the normal complaining because it is universally agreed the erudite models suck besides the glyphs.
Deson wrote:
Cusashorn wrote:Meirril wrote:Or maybe they will offer a ritual to turn back into an old school Euradite? I'd actually think about rolling an Euradite just to do that!Oh Quellious! If they allowed erudite players to transform back to what they were, do you have any idea how much players would ***** and whine about turning the Kerrans into Vah Shir?I mean, they already are right now, not accepting the fact that they are what they are, but this... this would just be anarchy on the message boards.Besides, I don't see any reason for them to change back. What would they benefit from it? The magic runes on thier bodies now serve a purpose itself by keeping them closer attuned to magic than they were before. Also: I take back my statement about the ritual being intentional. Who knows what may really have happened?I think people would make an exception to the normal complaining because it is universally agreed the erudite models suck besides the glyphs.
No they don't.
Make a human model, make it black, then make it bald. BOOM Erudite.
Your legion of magical black people awaits.
Homeskillet wrote:
Deson wrote:Cusashorn wrote:Meirril wrote:Or maybe they will offer a ritual to turn back into an old school Euradite? I'd actually think about rolling an Euradite just to do that!Oh Quellious! If they allowed erudite players to transform back to what they were, do you have any idea how much players would ***** and whine about turning the Kerrans into Vah Shir?I mean, they already are right now, not accepting the fact that they are what they are, but this... this would just be anarchy on the message boards.Besides, I don't see any reason for them to change back. What would they benefit from it? The magic runes on thier bodies now serve a purpose itself by keeping them closer attuned to magic than they were before. Also: I take back my statement about the ritual being intentional. Who knows what may really have happened?I think people would make an exception to the normal complaining because it is universally agreed the erudite models suck besides the glyphs. No they don't.Make a human model, make it black, then make it bald. BOOM Erudite.Your legion of magical black people awaits.
I don't see how that remark makes sense given the complaint is the current erudite model sucks and that the human model is not the same.
Current Erudite models suck from skin texture to the odd way the eyes were drawn. Those two factors completely overshadow how awesome the glyphs and the eyes themselves are.Even if Erudites were just black humans with the glyphs and eyes it would be a marked improvement over the current design.
My point is, its not a universal complaint, and the original erudite models were nothing special.
Frankly I like the new erudite models.
Homeskillet wrote:Deson wrote:Cusashorn wrote:Meirril wrote:Or maybe they will offer a ritual to turn back into an old school Euradite? I'd actually think about rolling an Euradite just to do that!Oh Quellious! If they allowed erudite players to transform back to what they were, do you have any idea how much players would ***** and whine about turning the Kerrans into Vah Shir?I mean, they already are right now, not accepting the fact that they are what they are, but this... this would just be anarchy on the message boards.Besides, I don't see any reason for them to change back. What would they benefit from it? The magic runes on thier bodies now serve a purpose itself by keeping them closer attuned to magic than they were before. Also: I take back my statement about the ritual being intentional. Who knows what may really have happened?I think people would make an exception to the normal complaining because it is universally agreed the erudite models suck besides the glyphs. No they don't.Make a human model, make it black, then make it bald. BOOM Erudite.Your legion of magical black people awaits. I don't see how that remark makes sense given the complaint is the current erudite model sucks and that the human model is not the same. Current Erudite models suck from skin texture to the odd way the eyes were drawn. Those two factors completely overshadow how awesome the glyphs and the eyes themselves are.Even if Erudites were just black humans with the glyphs and eyes it would be a marked improvement over the current design.
But thats YOUR opinion. I think the current Erudites aer interesting looking and I like them. The original Erudite model that was posted above looks fine and all but how ugly or cute a character is is totally based on personal opinion.
My point is, its not a universal complaint, and the original erudite models were nothing special.Frankly I like the new erudite models.
Anestacia wrote:
First two I've ever seen that like the model as a whole--mind you I have 8 from before the racials meant anything.
I like that they don't have the foreheads from EQ1 and do find them interesting but I still think they need an extensive rework just like human females do.I don't find the flaws aesthetic in nature as much as just broken design.
Homeskillet wrote:My point is, its not a universal complaint, and the original erudite models were nothing special.Frankly I like the new erudite models. Anestacia wrote:But thats YOUR opinion. I think the current Erudites aer interesting looking and I like them. The original Erudite model that was posted above looks fine and all but how ugly or cute a character is is totally based on personal opinion.First two I've ever seen that like the model as a whole--mind you I have 8 from before the racials meant anything.I like that they don't have the foreheads from EQ1 and do find them interesting but I still think they need an extensive rework just like human females do.I don't find the flaws aesthetic in nature as much as just broken design.
It's okay, people who make sweeping generalizations are generally surprised when their sacred opinions meet their differing cousins
It's okay, people who make sweeping generalizations are generally surprised when their sacred opinions meet their differing cousons
Touche'
In my defense though I don't see all that many played--especially females( I have one)-- no one I know likes them compared to the old models, there were a host of threads decrying their "alien" appearance and besides the exotic skin tones, the eyes(not the shapes) and the glyphs, I've never seen one positive statement about erudites in EQ2;every single person I've seen 'til now that claims to like them points to one of the three details mentioned while not particularly caring for the model itself.
Not really. Classic Erudites differed from humans in body build as well as head shape. The classic Erudites in EQ1, aside from having the much higher brow and longer head, seemed to be a tad taller on average and the males were actually a bit buffer and the females a tad more voluptuous. The current female Erudites with their waif-like forms are pretty much the polar opposite of a classic Erudite female. Same with the males.
Wow, this thread has completely derailed...... and I don't have any problem with it.
Yes, there were subtle differences for the most part but honestly erudites = magical black people with big foreheads., which makes me wonder if that just tweaked a developer into the magical change thing in the first place.
Even still, there were the original erud models blocky garbage, along with the Luclin models, compared with the EQ2 engine which is a much different and advanced engine. Freeport looked like a level of Mario Brothers fleshed out in 3D in EQ1, do people honestly complain that Freeport doesn't look the same as it did then?
Either way, still just a matter of preference. Proud erudite player and digging the new models.
Yes, there were subtle differences for the most part but honestly erudites = magical black people with big foreheads., which makes me wonder if that just tweaked a developer into the magical change thing in the first place.Even still, there were the original erud models blocky garbage, along with the Luclin models, compared with the EQ2 engine which is a much different and advanced engine. Freeport looked like a level of Mario Brothers fleshed out in 3D in EQ1, do people honestly complain that Freeport doesn't look the same as it did then?Either way, still just a matter of preference. Proud erudite player and digging the new models.
I think the EQ2 Erudite models are closer to what was the original concept, however I do still think the Erudites all look like flatchested chicks. Probably why no one see's many females....cause hard to tell them apart.
There are other female character races not played much in game too btw...
Ogre Females, Troll Females, Sarnak Females, Dwarf Females, Froglok Females, Barbarian Females.
There may be some who play them, but those are the ones I very rarely see in-game.
Rashaak wrote:
Homeskillet wrote:Yes, there were subtle differences for the most part but honestly erudites = magical black people with big foreheads., which makes me wonder if that just tweaked a developer into the magical change thing in the first place.Even still, there were the original erud models blocky garbage, along with the Luclin models, compared with the EQ2 engine which is a much different and advanced engine. Freeport looked like a level of Mario Brothers fleshed out in 3D in EQ1, do people honestly complain that Freeport doesn't look the same as it did then?Either way, still just a matter of preference. Proud erudite player and digging the new models.I think the EQ2 Erudite models are closer to what was the original concept, however I do still think the Erudites all look like flatchested chicks. Probably why no one see's many females....cause hard to tell them apart.There are other female character races not played much in game too btw...Ogre Females, Troll Females, Sarnak Females, Dwarf Females, Froglok Females, Barbarian Females. There may be some who play them, but those are the ones I very rarely see in-game.
That is primarily due to the fact that playing attractive female models gets you gifts from some really sad individuals. I didn't think it was true till I tried it in Lineage 2 and was handed money and items left and right. It happens here as well. Way too many scary attempts at cyber though
Rashaak wrote:Homeskillet wrote:Yes, there were subtle differences for the most part but honestly erudites = magical black people with big foreheads., which makes me wonder if that just tweaked a developer into the magical change thing in the first place.Even still, there were the original erud models blocky garbage, along with the Luclin models, compared with the EQ2 engine which is a much different and advanced engine. Freeport looked like a level of Mario Brothers fleshed out in 3D in EQ1, do people honestly complain that Freeport doesn't look the same as it did then?Either way, still just a matter of preference. Proud erudite player and digging the new models.I think the EQ2 Erudite models are closer to what was the original concept, however I do still think the Erudites all look like flatchested chicks. Probably why no one see's many females....cause hard to tell them apart.There are other female character races not played much in game too btw...Ogre Females, Troll Females, Sarnak Females, Dwarf Females, Froglok Females, Barbarian Females. There may be some who play them, but those are the ones I very rarely see in-game. That is primarily due to the fact that playing attractive female models gets you gifts from some really sad individuals. I didn't think it was true till I tried it in Lineage 2 and was handed money and items left and right. It happens here as well. Way too many scary attempts at cyber though
/agree
But also women who do play don't want to play ugly races either.
Anyway, furries and scary sex starved losers aside, I really hope they don't retcon a change to the original lore about the new Erudites.
