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Ballak wrote:
That's annoying, but that's how it's always been. I see no reason to change it, it's fine as is. I'd rather development time be spent elsewhere.


But that is like saying 'Having %Bonus Debuffs that dont work is annoying, but it has always been there so come up with new stuff instead'.

Making it easier to return to the constructs will help them get used more, and actually seeing content we already have getting used more is a lot better than introducing more stuff that will end up deserted in a couple weeks.  At least I think so.




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SolidRevolver wrote:
Ballak wrote:
That's annoying, but that's how it's always been. I see no reason to change it, it's fine as is. I'd rather development time be spent elsewhere.


But that is like saying 'Having %Bonus Debuffs that dont work is annoying, but it has always been there so come up with new stuff instead'.

Making it easier to return to the constructs will help them get used more, and actually seeing content we already have getting used more is a lot better than introducing more stuff that will end up deserted in a couple weeks.  At least I think so.


Is an extra three minutes really that tedious to wait?



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Ballak wrote:
SolidRevolver wrote:
Ballak wrote:
That's annoying, but that's how it's always been. I see no reason to change it, it's fine as is. I'd rather development time be spent elsewhere.


But that is like saying 'Having %Bonus Debuffs that dont work is annoying, but it has always been there so come up with new stuff instead'.

Making it easier to return to the constructs will help them get used more, and actually seeing content we already have getting used more is a lot better than introducing more stuff that will end up deserted in a couple weeks.  At least I think so.


Is an extra three minutes really that tedious to wait?

IMO... yes, it is.

'Constructs' is also listed in the HL drop down box, so it was at least thought about at one time.  It would be great if they were all listed there.  We 'would' use the construct more, without a doubt.  So, maybe you'd still have to have the book equiped... that's phine.  But I think all the constructs would see more action.  New players don't even know the constructs exist unless someone tell them about them, and how to get there, now.

 




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I don't think people's exceptional laziness should be catered to.


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Zudrag wrote:
I don't think people's exceptional laziness should be catered to.

I dont follow you there?  you are saying people are lazy because they dont want to have to wait 3 minutes to get into an archive?


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Zudrag wrote:
I don't think people's exceptional laziness should be catered to.


Ok, stick a pacification zone 100 meters around all the HLs, that will stop all those lazy people just jacking back to Mara C so they can quickly get back into a fight.

In an age where games a praised for short loading times, and making sure you are never too far away from the action, it is very unusual this game forces you to wait.  No one likes playing the waiting game.




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SolidRevolver wrote:
Zudrag wrote:
I don't think people's exceptional laziness should be catered to.


Ok, stick a pacification zone 100 meters around all the HLs, that will stop all those lazy people just jacking back to Mara C so they can quickly get back into a fight.

In an age where games a praised for short loading times, and making sure you are never too far away from the action, it is very unusual this game forces you to wait.  No one likes playing the waiting game.

Have you ever waited on Queue's in World of Warcraft PvP? They can take over 30 minutes occasionally before you get into a battlegrounds. There are plenty waiting periods in any game, especially MMO's that are basically known for their laid back and repetitive gameplay. Not that it's bad having repetitive gameplay, because if it's fun who doesn't want to do fun things.

Complaining about having to wait three minutes, and that it needs to be changed honestly doesn't really seem like at the top of the priority list, IMO.




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Did anyone else notice that the helicopter is a brand new model?

Either Rarebit found an old unused model or we got a modeler person.  :D


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Cervacius wrote:

Did anyone else notice that the helicopter is a brand new model?

Either Rarebit found an old unused model or we got a modeler person.  SMILEY

It looks like just a change of the texture on the current heli's.



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Cervacius wrote:

Did anyone else notice that the helicopter is a brand new model?

Either Rarebit found an old unused model or we got a modeler person.  SMILEY


Yes, its been noticed before, but I'm with ODJ on this one.


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Ballak wrote:

Have you ever waited on Queue's in World of Warcraft PvP? They can take over 30 minutes occasionally before you get into a battlegrounds.


I have waited on them, and there is a huge difference between Battlegrounds and Constructs, BGs require a certain amount of people and are instanced, constructs are completely open which makes the wait pointless in my opinion.



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odj wrote:
Cervacius wrote:

Did anyone else notice that the helicopter is a brand new model?

Either Rarebit found an old unused model or we got a modeler person.  SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" />

It looks like just a change of the texture on the current heli's.


Perhaps, but I don't think so.  The current helis have a rear prepellar and these don't and I don't think the prepellar is just a texture. 

Which, I'm not an expert on helicopters, but don't you have to have a rear prepallar or it won't work?




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SolidRevolver wrote:
Ballak wrote:

Have you ever waited on Queue's in World of Warcraft PvP? They can take over 30 minutes occasionally before you get into a battlegrounds.


I have waited on them, and there is a huge difference between Battlegrounds and Constructs, BGs require a certain amount of people and are instanced, constructs are completely open which makes the wait pointless in my opinion.
If it's so pointless, why did they do it in the first place? And then you must realize this, to change it the way you want, that requires dev time. I'd rather dev time be spent on other subjects than just changing a 3 minute-wait timer because of a few personal preferences. Alright, fine, waiting 3 minutes wouldn't be as great as waiting no minutes, but the difference between both is just for personal convienience, and honestly like I said it's not that big of a deal. Around a 3 minute wait at max? I mean come on. That doesn't even count the times when you actually make it to the Proxy when he's going right then.



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Cervacius wrote:
Perhaps, but I don't think so.  The current helis have a rear prepellar and these don't and I don't think the prepellar is just a texture. 

Which, I'm not an expert on helicopters, but don't you have to have a rear prepallar or it won't work?

Actually I'd say it would be quite simple for the Dev's to remove the rear propeller. The propellers don't move so we get a circular texture that is what about 65-75% transparent to give the visual of quickly moving blades, but it's still a texture. However the Helicopter in the image doesn't have the circular texture it looks like it's been frozen so I don't think it's going to be moving about, mind you it's a child's creation so things don't have to be perfect... also, until I see another chopper in game to check it looks like there may be a few additions to the bodywork. New model... I don't tend to think so perhaps an unused existing model or the normal model design with options that haven't been used before.

And no Helicopters don't have to have a rear rotor, many designed for working in built up areas have air jets for safety. This does the same job as a tail rotor but with less danger.



Rotors are still the cutting edge of technology, and thus these Choppers are safer in built up areas.

Message edited by Croesis on 06/15/2008 01:05:10.


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Normally i'd justify the construct teleportation timer on giving the orginally intended PvP a nessecary cool down period to avoid the current Mara C like environment but i've come to realise the "reconstruct, jack in, get to the archivist, load the construct, get back to where the fight was" period is enough of a cool down as it is without another waiting period attached.

Maybe the archivists can be turned into a single click teleporter system like those in hideouts. But then we'd have probably have to lose the cool teleportation effect...

Message edited by cloudwolf on 06/16/2008 02:16:29.

 
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