recursion, syntax, and vector should all merge onto one server because there simply isn't the population to support 3 servers. Add to that the game only has 3 developers to run making the game, story characters, and other behind the scenes stuff and then to do it 3 times over is just reduntant. this is how i see the future, 1 server, turn westview into a pvp district. the number of character slots would be increased to 9.

*edited*  The discussion of a server merger will not end until there is one. I am calling on the devs, as they're popularly known, to begin the process of merging the servers.

It is amazing that meaninful discussion is considered spaming. I guess one man's trash is another man's treasure.

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And what would happen to my characters on the other servers I hold onto dearly.

Hmrph

Tranque101 wrote:

And what would happen to my characters on the other servers I hold onto dearly.

Hmrph

We can have more slots, since it will be down to 2 servers

RollsRoyce wrote:

recursion, syntax, and vector should all merge onto one server because there simply isn't the population to support 3 servers. Add to that the game only has 3 developers to run making the game, story characters, and other behind the scenes stuff and then to do it 3 times over is just reduntant. this is how i see the future, 1 server, turn westview into a pvp district. the number of character slots would be increased to 9.

I find it very unfair that fourm nazis like cadsuane, ballak and the rest of their ilk run meaningful discussion off the forums while continuing to run the game by fiat via their posts. The discussion of a server merger will not end until there is one. I am calling on the devs, as they're popularly known, to begin the process of merging the servers.

It is amazing that meaninful discussion is considered spaming. I guess one man's trash is another man's treasure.

Thank you.  Thank you.  I thought I had been crazy until I figured out that one of the aforementioned forum thugs shot down every single thoughtful and reasonable post of mine in the past couple weeks.  It isn't based on any type of rational thought it's based on scoring petty forum cq's and trying to all be clever and 4channy, while trying to quash constructive feedback right off of the boards.  Well, not this time.

Anyways I'm with you 1000% although as a happy medium I'd say lets try 2 servers, 1 hostile and 1 nonhostile, Syncursion and Vector, 6 slots each.  If someone has all 9 slots filled the extra 3 would be a nice incentive to check out Vector.  Its win all around.  Two servers, 33% workload removed for Rare, and a shot in the arm to a declining population.  Otherwise, on Recursion you might as well hax and shoot at tumbleweeds.

RollsRoyce wrote:

This is what we have to continue to fight against. lets tell these fourm nazis no, we will not go where they want us to go. they can go, if they have nothing meaninful to disscuss. we will not be moved. the server merger is coming. Those of us that want it must continue to make our voices heard must continue to do so.

No ballak i will not go, you can go to hell.

And those opposed to a merge? Will you have them silent? What makes you any better than them?

Regardless, like it or not Ballak's post stating...

"there's no need to make another thread about it, because the only reason for people to post in it, would be to repost their opinions from the original thread about the same topic, thus generating spam."

...was right on the money. All of these posts (aside from the posts that have already been said in said thread) could have been added to the previous threads about it instead of creating another spam fest here regardless of the good intentions. These forums still show, most of the time believe it or not, the latest post in a thread, so the older threads still would have shown up allowing the new poster's post to be seen.

It's not naziism, it's common sense, and it doesn't feed the trolls.

The merge is getting more appropriate as time rolls on, and as more changes occur to the game. I'm in favor of it.

Or in favor of choosing which server you can play on. For example, choosing the character you want to play as and then choosing the server you want to play on. Recursion and Syntax. I can see the arguement that it is harder to level on vector than the others. I disagree, but I am sure the early days were more difficult than lately.

RollsRoyce wrote:

recursion, syntax, and vector should all merge onto one server because there simply isn't the population to support 3 servers. Add to that the game only has 3 developers to run making the game, story characters, and other behind the scenes stuff and then to do it 3 times over is just reduntant. this is how i see the future, 1 server, turn westview into a pvp district. the number of character slots would be increased to 9.

I find it very unfair that fourm nazis like cadsuane, ballak and the rest of their ilk run meaningful discussion off the forums while continuing to run the game by fiat via their posts. The discussion of a server merger will not end until there is one. I am calling on the devs, as they're popularly known, to begin the process of merging the servers.

It is amazing that meaninful discussion is considered spaming. I guess one man's trash is another man's treasure.

Godwin's Law is still in effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin..._Nazi_Analogies

Personally, I'm neither for nor against a server merge. If it happens, it happens. However, since all my character slots on Recursion and Syntax are full, I really don't want to have to sacrifice any of them, in case that was one of the conditions of a merge.

MatrixRefugee wrote:

RollsRoyce wrote:

recursion, syntax, and vector should all merge onto one server because there simply isn't the population to support 3 servers. Add to that the game only has 3 developers to run making the game, story characters, and other behind the scenes stuff and then to do it 3 times over is just reduntant. this is how i see the future, 1 server, turn westview into a pvp district. the number of character slots would be increased to 9.

I find it very unfair that fourm nazis like cadsuane, ballak and the rest of their ilk run meaningful discussion off the forums while continuing to run the game by fiat via their posts. The discussion of a server merger will not end until there is one. I am calling on the devs, as they're popularly known, to begin the process of merging the servers.

It is amazing that meaninful discussion is considered spaming. I guess one man's trash is another man's treasure.

Godwin's Law is still in effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin..._Nazi_Analogies

Personally, I'm neither for nor against a server merge. If it happens, it happens. However, since all my character slots on Recursion and Syntax are full, I really don't want to have to sacrifice any of them, in case that was one of the conditions of a merge.

That would defeat the whole purpose.  They would simply merge, and you'd have 6 characters on Syncursion

I can't speak to Vector, although adding three additional slots to balance things out would be quite nice, the more I think about it.

Nice & simple.

Im still asking myself why it has to be so hard to try to make a point here. If I want to make suggestions for the development of the game.. I post on Development Roundtable, as I did. I dont go searching for merge threads on a part of the forum where its dedicated to discuss tactics of combat (player vs player). Either way, THIS thread i think its very different from that one, or from other old ones. Why?

1)Because MXO is not what it was a year ago, some crazy people may think its growing but the fact is: its not, people are leaving actually.

2) Because Im not starting this thread with a "Im drooling just to think of the pvp". Nor Im trying to make this thread one of "you recursion poeple will be lambs here in pvp", or to discuss which server is better. This is a mature (hoping) thread, for the discussion of the QUALITY of the game, how to make it BETTER. Its not a syntax vs recursion vs vector thread. And if I feel that what I have to bring to the Roundtable is a new approach to see it, so be it, I pay for the game too and its my right to do it. And If I want to make it right, I do it myself.

I just want to make it fair for those who have a main character on a dead server, like myself. And by doing that we can actually have a better game, where time can be employed for a better development instead of making the same things for different servers (speacially when one of them is practically empty). By concentrating more on just one non hostile server, i think its a win-win situation.

Now, If you want to keep wasting this space by saying more than one time (spam?) that it is spam.... go ahead.

I think the whole "But I might lose characters!!!" argument is a moot point. It seems stupidly clear to me that if the devs were ever to merge the servers the last thing they would do is force players to delete RSI's. I think it's a bit of a forgone conclusion the devs would do their best to preserve peoples characters and not annoy the player base by reducing overall character slots.

As for reasons behind merging servers, if the Recursion player base is as small as they claim then their might be good reason to merge the servers. Over here on Syntax there's a fair number of players so clearly from my side it looks like a merge is unnecessary, but for the sake of Recursion players we might actually have to merge the servers.

As for people who are complaining that this is spam, report the thread and move on with life. Don't fill it up with your own brand of "Forum Police Spam". That is all.

Avath wrote:

Im still asking myself why it has to be so hard to try to make a point here. If I want to make suggestions for the development of the game.. I post on Development Roundtable, as I did. I dont go searching for merge threads on a part of the forum where its dedicated to discuss tactics of combat (player vs player). Either way, THIS thread i think its very different from that one, or from other old ones. Why?

1)Because MXO is not what it was a year ago, some crazy people may think its growing but the fact is: its not, people are leaving actually.

2) Because Im not starting this thread with a "Im drooling just to think of the pvp". Nor Im trying to make this thread one of "you recursion poeple will be lambs here in pvp", or to discuss which server is better. This is a mature (hoping) thread, for the discussion of the QUALITY of the game, how to make it BETTER. Its not a syntax vs recursion vs vector thread. And if I feel that what I have to bring to the Roundtable is a new approach to see it, so be it, I pay for the game too and its my right to do it. And If I want to make it right, I do it myself.

I just want to make it fair for those who have a main character on a dead server, like myself. And by doing that we can actually have a better game, where time can be employed for a better development instead of making the same things for different servers (speacially when one of them is practically empty). By concentrating more on just one non hostile server, i think its a win-win situation.

Now, If you want to keep wasting this space by saying more than one time (spam?) that it is spam.... go ahead.

I agree, and it's not about pvp mainly, It would be nice to see what recursion RP has to offer.

And of course recursion is deadish..

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Thanks, and I have to agree, There is something different about this thread, more people are agreeing about the merge.. So you have done right by it Avath

We all have our opinions and we might disagree but it shouldn't turn into an arguement

Might aswell get a few +1's in.

Hm, where to start. Ok, I'd have little interest in merging Recursion and Syntax. Why? I play on vector, I've got 50's on both of the other servers so either way I don't really care.

If we merged all three servers? That'd be cool. I'm happy with how things are now, things are not as bleak as people say they are, but heck even if it was merged into a non-hostile server I absolutely wouldn't care about losing the 24/7 hostility. The so called 'realism' of 24/7 PvP is a veil people hide behind, frankly. If you want realism in the mega city you'd want an active, prospering mega city with good numbers of players, reds on all sides, strong roleplay and, wow, you can create a macro to be 24/7 PvP flagged too if it's that big a deal. Macros are rather handy after all.

Having said all that, doomsday is not approaching. The servers population are not what they once were, no, but unless there's been a HUGE change since Fan Faire, subs were actually higher this year than last. Now INB4THEYWOULDN'TTELLYOUOTHERWISE, because, in big fairness to the MxO team we got a lot of realism and honest truths from them. So, I'm not particularly displeased if there was to be no merge. (Which there won't be)

Where would we go after a server merge? Another thing we noticed at Fan Faire, people either said 'WHEN DOES MXO COME OUT?' or 'ISN'T MXO DEAD?' Now, excusing the former, servers merging would do nothing but enhanced the latter and we've had some fairly decent articles written about us over the past year if I remember correctly, SO, servers being merged together... I don't think they'd report about that in a positive light. How would that make the game look to potential subscribers? I know what I'd say, 'Put it to sleep'.

Whatever, I basically wasted my time typing this up because as so many people have pointed out there's multiple threads about this and they've not gone anywhere. Actually, by stating this I'm probably going to get accused of having a Nazi background of some kind.

In the words of the Special One... Do it!

KoenhX wrote:

Thanks, and I have to agree, There is something different about this thread, more people are agreeing about the merge.. So you have done right by it Avath

I would say thats down to the current situation with the new approach and the view of some that, after the winter event, a lot of people will be inclined to leave rather than someone creating yet another thread on the same topic as all those other threads.

I would rather be accused of being 'ZOMG Forum Police/Nazi' by telling people to use the handy search function and post in the already made and appropriate threads then have to trawl through 6,7,8+ threads on the same topic most of which have the same people saying the same things, just in case one bright spark puts forward a decent undeniable reason why we should or should not want such an merge.