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Jacked Out

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I was thinking of a possible new idea for pvp purposes and for future content.

Using the Access nodes outside of richland, allow characters that have already unlocked the district to be able to hack the access node to their organization using a special tool or ability. This hacking would take a set amount of time to accomplish and more than one Access Node could be hacked at one time. 

If a node is already hacked, the node must first be un-hacked using the same set amount of time it takes to hack a node. So to control a node already under another orgs control you have to hack it twice. A node already hacked to your org can not be hacked until the timer runs out.  

Once hacked, the individual (or each member of the team if the individual is on one) then gets a periodic reward (low to moderate xp and Information SMILEY over the course of a set time period based on an average Level of experience for as long as they are logged into the matrix and remain on the team that hacked the node.

A person who hacks the access node and any person on the same team are flagged for pvp for the duration of the time they are still on the team and the node is still hacked.  

A possible additional benefit for the org in general, the Ability to identify hostile entities within controlled districts. i.e a \who like command or website giving a report (also periodically updated) of enemy org players flagged for pvp within controlled districts.

This would give pvp minded individuals objectives to obtain and defend and get them away from the standard areas where pvp occurs. It also gives lower level players the ability to gain money and xp outside of the standard mission grind. 

I Invite the community and devlopers to discuss and evaluate this idea Further.

Some questions to consider,

How long should hacking the node take?

How long should a node stay hacked?

What kind of graphical effect should a hacked node show?

How much and How often should the reward be given for a hacked node, bearing in mind that more than 1 node can be hacked at one time?

Should a reward boost be given to orgs who controll all districts in an area(i.e Downtown, International or Westview)? If Yes, How much?  

For the devs,

How hard do you think this would be to work into the game? 

Would doing this be possible with the current resources available?   



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I like this idea.

Afterall once a node is tagged it becomes an obsolete prop in the MxO World for the duration of the RSI's 'life' within the Matrix.

I think this would be especially beneficial to Vector players due to the Hostile nature of the server and being tagged permanently.

Org controlled zones would definately add some exitement to areas in my opinion.

Possibly Just westview could be like this so not all the game is interupted by it?

*Ponders*




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While this is an interesting thought, there are some problems I see with it.

There are too many of these overall, and with a small playerbase, controlling alot is gonna be hard.  If there were maybe...2 of these overall ingame, and maybe in the constructs, you're guaranteed large player density and pvp.  Another issue is will people still fight for these in the long run.  Again, due to how we act, everyone swarms the first month or two, and then it dies out.  During oddball hours or random hours, one group doing this could be relatively left alone.  And once this happens, what stops them from using AFK macros/scripts?



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This caught my attention because I think I sent a PM to Rarebit a long, long time ago asking about the prospect of creating some self-sustaining content. At the time, I had been playing some sort of territory-control MMO and was really caught up by how addictive it is. I thought it was really what MxO could have used to sustain its players.

I believe I proposed something almost exactly the same as what you've proposed. I checked my sent box and inbox for this PM, but I think it might have been on the old forums and maybe the PM was lost. So I can't find any evidence that any of the following actually happened.
*PLEASE NOTE THAT THE FOLLOWING IS FROM MEMORIES THAT ARE YEARS OLD AND COULD BE ENTIRELY FALSE*
I believe that what he *might have* said to me was that HCFrog had been working on a plan connected to the org abilities where there would be several Control Towers that players could capture and uncapture. The org abilities' powers would scale directly to the number of towers controlled and indirectly to the org's percentage of the server population.

I thought this was a really great idea because people could fight over these things forever and it would give orgs RP/PvP objectives to have during the off-time in between events and LO interaction. Unfortunately, it would have been abandoned when HCFrog left.

Now if this could be revived without a connection to the org abilities and just some sort of simple benefit connected to controlling the towers, I think it would be worth it. Self-sustaining content is the lifeblood of any MMO and MxO has always lacked it. Instead we have a series of one-time use activities such as the quests, farming, collector items. Not exactly things for the players to do 24/7.



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LtCmdr_Tsusai wrote:
While this is an interesting thought, there are some problems I see with it.

There are too many of these overall, and with a small playerbase, controlling alot is gonna be hard.  If there were maybe...2 of these overall ingame, and maybe in the constructs, you're guaranteed large player density and pvp.  Another issue is will people still fight for these in the long run.  Again, due to how we act, everyone swarms the first month or two, and then it dies out.  During oddball hours or random hours, one group doing this could be relatively left alone.  And once this happens, what stops them from using AFK macros/scripts?


I think I see your point with the number, I'd like to see it in every district but with our current popluation that would be too much. but only 2 per instance, I think that would be too low a number. Perhaps 3 to 5 per Area might be more resonable number starting out. then perhaps adding more if the population ever increases enough. 

As for the afk macros and Scripts, Perhaps place a certain chance of an agent or tactical seciruty squad spawn on those that hack the node to discourage this behavior. It would also add an element of danger to those hacking nodes beyond the pvp environment. Make them level 55-60 npcs and spawn one for each person on the team and the team can have someone to play with if there are no pvpers around.  



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10011 wrote:
This caught my attention because I think I sent a PM to Rarebit a long, long time ago asking about the prospect of creating some self-sustaining content. At the time, I had been playing some sort of territory-control MMO and was really caught up by how addictive it is. I thought it was really what MxO could have used to sustain its players.

I believe I proposed something almost exactly the same as what you've proposed. I checked my sent box and inbox for this PM, but I think it might have been on the old forums and maybe the PM was lost. So I can't find any evidence that any of the following actually happened.
*PLEASE NOTE THAT THE FOLLOWING IS FROM MEMORIES THAT ARE YEARS OLD AND COULD BE ENTIRELY FALSE*
I believe that what he *might have* said to me was that HCFrog had been working on a plan connected to the org abilities where there would be several Control Towers that players could capture and uncapture. The org abilities' powers would scale directly to the number of towers controlled and indirectly to the org's percentage of the server population.

I thought this was a really great idea because people could fight over these things forever and it would give orgs RP/PvP objectives to have during the off-time in between events and LO interaction. Unfortunately, it would have been abandoned when HCFrog left.

Now if this could be revived without a connection to the org abilities and just some sort of simple benefit connected to controlling the towers, I think it would be worth it. Self-sustaining content is the lifeblood of any MMO and MxO has always lacked it. Instead we have a series of one-time use activities such as the quests, farming, collector items. Not exactly things for the players to do 24/7.
I do so hate being misquoted.



...although that is less the case at the moment due to the forum pagination problem...

http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/...=&postTime=

http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/...795#36300155178

http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/...835#36300438029





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This would essentially turn PvP into a giant game of King of the Hill.  I think it would add another element to PvP.  Perhaps the reward for "owning" the node would be some buffs when you are in the vicinity.  It would give reason for the node to be hacked and defended, while hopefully ensuring the small playerbase that is PvPing stays in a nice little area.



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Rarebit wrote:
10011 wrote:
I checked my sent box and inbox for this PM, but I think it might have been on the old forums and maybe the PM was lost. So I can't find any evidence that any of the following actually happened.
*PLEASE NOTE THAT THE FOLLOWING IS FROM MEMORIES THAT ARE YEARS OLD AND COULD BE ENTIRELY FALSE*
I believe that what he *might have* said...
I do so hate being misquoted.

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So does that mean Rarebit that the situation still has not changed as far as the luxury of resources to accomplish this content?

I was trying to think of certain elements of our world that already exist so as to reduce the amount of new work needed to be done. 

Thinking in steps of implementation. To start with the 3 access nodes for one area that gives a set amount of xp and info every 10 minutes over 2 and 1/2 hours of time. This would be for the individual or team that hacks the node. Then attach a chance of npc spawn on the hacking team to discourage AFK macro exploiting. 

 

 

  



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I would really like to see something along the lines of this being implemeted. Mara is ok to pvp in but gah it gets borin. Its been done to death. Something like this would make pvp more meaningfull in a way and would get us around the MC.

Like maybe have it that its 1 random node in every district, changes every server restart.

Oh and *cough* every1 runs to the RP servers to RP, if something like this was to be done, PvP server only please SMILEY




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I would really like to see something along the lines of this being implemeted. Mara is ok to pvp in but gah it gets borin. Its been done to death. Something like this would make pvp more meaningfull in a way and would get us around the MC.

Like maybe have it that its 1 random node in every district, changes every server restart.

Oh and *cough* every1 runs to the RP servers to RP, if something like this was to be done, PvP server only please SMILEY




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The_Bruceter wrote:

I would really like to see something along the lines of this being implemeted. Mara is ok to pvp in but gah it gets borin. Its been done to death. Something like this would make pvp more meaningfull in a way and would get us around the MC.

Like maybe have it that its 1 random node in every district, changes every server restart.

Oh and *cough* every1 runs to the RP servers to RP, if something like this was to be done, PvP server only please SMILEY

As far as I'm aware, anything applied to the game world (such as permanent pacification zones etc..) would be applied to all servers. Besides, there is nothing inherant in the game's code that forces people to go to Recursion or Syntax to RP, As far as I've heard there is quite a bit of RP on Vector, so even if the idea were to happen, I don't see why Vector should be the only server with it. SMILEY




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Vinia wrote:
The_Bruceter wrote:

I would really like to see something along the lines of this being implemeted. Mara is ok to pvp in but gah it gets borin. Its been done to death. Something like this would make pvp more meaningfull in a way and would get us around the MC.

Like maybe have it that its 1 random node in every district, changes every server restart.

Oh and *cough* every1 runs to the RP servers to RP, if something like this was to be done, PvP server only please SMILEY

As far as I'm aware, anything applied to the game world (such as permanent pacification zones etc..) would be applied to all servers. Besides, there is nothing inherant in the game's code that forces people to go to Recursion or Syntax to RP, As far as I've heard there is quite a bit of RP on Vector, so even if the idea were to happen, I don't see why Vector should be the only server with it. SMILEY

Indeed, no reason not to include the Non Pvp servers in something like this, they probably have similar problems with mara that we do(Everyone is there and it gets boring)  but that does raise one particular item for those Servers. For the person/team that hacks a node, They would become pvp flagged for the duration of them controlling the hacked node.

From reward should come risk and vice versa.

 


Message edited by SkyBruin-ML on 09/15/2008 08:49:49.


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Vinia wrote:
The_Bruceter wrote:

I would really like to see something along the lines of this being implemeted. Mara is ok to pvp in but gah it gets borin. Its been done to death. Something like this would make pvp more meaningfull in a way and would get us around the MC.

Like maybe have it that its 1 random node in every district, changes every server restart.

Oh and *cough* every1 runs to the RP servers to RP, if something like this was to be done, PvP server only please SMILEY

As far as I'm aware, anything applied to the game world (such as permanent pacification zones etc..) would be applied to all servers. Besides, there is nothing inherant in the game's code that forces people to go to Recursion or Syntax to RP, As far as I've heard there is quite a bit of RP on Vector, so even if the idea were to happen, I don't see why Vector should be the only server with it. SMILEY

Ill agree any content that would invest development time to simply be added to our server alone is a simplistic waste and silly on the most basic of levels logisticly.



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As possible additional/alternative reward for holding the Hacked node for the Entire time period of the Hack, How about  A CQ point for everyone on the team who held the node. It would give more reason to defend the nodes for the entire time and if the Agent spawn chance increase is used, it might not be a cheap way to get CQs without risking anything.

Opinions/ideas on this?

  

 
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