Well, the fact that there are people who were willing to give the people from this PE disclosed information is sort of disturbing. To promote that on the internet is sort of riskae, and it's not something I'd want this AB to be doing to me. Even the out of game interactions is a little over the line. Sure, they're probably people you know just under a different alias trying to improve the gameplay in our little game.

Ballak wrote:

The idea of Algorithm Black is a little over-used. It seems they are starting to become sort of intertwined with Scanline, which is something I really would advise against. If this is strictly a player event, then in the LESIG/LE world they do not exist. They will not be recognized as part of the storyline just as 700-year-old lesbian vampires are easily thrown aside by the Matrix-storyline bible that Rarebit holds so dear.

Not entirely true. Some player stories do in fact get recognized by LESIG and Rarebit himself, it's just that they're rare. Now, from the information that I have seen, Algorithm: Black didn't mention Scanline until the Sentinel came out around the start date. Scanline was mentioning The Algorithm a bit before that. So if Scanline has mentioned The Algorithm, then I'd say that qualifies as being recognized, wouldn't you?

Ballak wrote:

Trying to solve the puzzle through various bits and pieces of information while weeding out the useless things = So-So. Some of the stories are interesting, others just simply are not.

Part of the fun of non-linear gaming is trying to figure out what is useful and what isn't while following up on several leads. The technique is called a red herring.

naes177 wrote:

Because LESIG events are so much better and well-conceived?  Lollerskates.

You would know, amirite?

I never said Algorithm: Black is bad, just certain parts of it I don't agree with. It's good, people like it. Don't get rid of it. Some of the things they do are questionable, but there really isn't that much of a majority against it. You even said yourself you think it's one of the best player events since the beginning and that's fine.

Ballak wrote:

naes177 wrote:

Because LESIG events are so much better and well-conceived?  Lollerskates.

You would know, amirite?

I never said Algorithm: Black is bad, just certain parts of it I don't agree with. It's good, people like it. Don't get rid of it. Some of the things they do are questionable, but there really isn't that much of a majority against it. You even said yourself you think it's one of the best player events since the beginning and that's fine.

I would know, and yeah it is, by far.

Criticism is always nice and I've offered mine, but it just sounds like you are pissy because you can't/don't want to solve puzzles. Ok, fine, continue about your business.

I'm not that very good at puzzles. I was just pointing out that it doesn't make it easier when everyone's got their own little bit to add to the puzzle when it really isn't necessary which is annoying, but I guess sometimes there really isn't anything to solve and you're just doing it for your own enjoyment. That aside though, I guess I was wishing for more of a Joker-type event where everyone was more or less OOC (IC ingame) trying to solve the puzzle. As for the LESIG/PE relationship, I really don't see that big of a difference between this and the Joker events; long, interactive puzzles that grasps most of the community's attention. Just because it was LESIG instead of PE doesn't change the theme. You also have to realize Algorithm Black was sort of at the "meh" popularity level for a lot of people until they just started naming out people and giving out garbled/mysterious soundbits and pictures. When people get attention, they get involved, so that boosted them up. They have Raijinn supporting it, so more and more just keep getting on the bandwagon. What's wrong with that? Nothing. This event is a great idea, it's just I question some of their motives.

I'm sorry if I made you feel that I hate the event because of my own disability.

-Zippy: Well, I guess for me there's a fine line between Real Life and this game. I don't really want people from MxO giving me phone calls or whatever. MxO is almost like a second identity for me, just something I do when I'm bored and I usually have a lot of time to be bored. You enjoyed it, that's your opinion. It could possibly be paranoia, but I'm rather cautious when handing out information to anonymous people, even if they're part of this knit-pick community.

Archangel wrote:

Ballak wrote:

The idea of Algorithm Black is a little over-used. It seems they are starting to become sort of intertwined with Scanline, which is something I really would advise against. If this is strictly a player event, then in the LESIG/LE world they do not exist. They will not be recognized as part of the storyline just as 700-year-old lesbian vampires are easily thrown aside by the Matrix-storyline bible that Rarebit holds so dear.

Not entirely true. Some player stories do in fact get recognized by LESIG and Rarebit himself, it's just that they're rare. Now, from the information that I have seen, Algorithm: Black didn't mention Scanline until the Sentinel came out around the start date. Scanline was mentioning The Algorithm a bit before that. So if Scanline has mentioned The Algorithm, then I'd say that qualifies as being recognized, wouldn't you?

Ballak wrote:

Trying to solve the puzzle through various bits and pieces of information while weeding out the useless things = So-So. Some of the stories are interesting, others just simply are not.

Part of the fun of non-linear gaming is trying to figure out what is useful and what isn't while following up on several leads. The technique is called a red herring.

For the first thing, technically, or at least according to Rarebit, anything made by the player isn't considered part of the matrix universe, like how every player is an operative. No, you may think your an exile/vampire/program/agent, but you're really not. Technical-RP-wise, we're all from the fields after the Truce was broken, shipped to Zion where we did our first missions there. So really, every Algorithm operative you see has gone through that same process, etc. etc. I'm sure they'd be recognized as an organization or faction, but they will never have an effect on the storyline. If so, this blatantly isn't a player event. So this whole, A:B trying to renew the peace thing is obviously not going to happen unless the peace is renewed by some other means. If they try to take credit for it, then that would be distasteful.

The red herring, although as you're explaining it to me is obviously a technique that I would not discourage A:B from doing, it's actually the players doing it. And even then it really isn't the Red Herring part, but it's having to read through conversations with the player's character and their operator or who ever.

Which, I apologize again if I made it sound like that was A:B's fault, because that's out of their control. I meant it in more of a general over-view of the event so far. It's out of their hands, so why should I blame them?

Foxxdie wrote:

Ballak wrote:

naes177 wrote:

Because LESIG events are so much better and well-conceived?  Lollerskates.

You would know, amirite?

I never said Algorithm: Black is bad, just certain parts of it I don't agree with. It's good, people like it. Don't get rid of it. Some of the things they do are questionable, but there really isn't that much of a majority against it. You even said yourself you think it's one of the best player events since the beginning and that's fine.

I would know, and yeah it is, by far.

Criticism is always nice and I've offered mine, but it just sounds like you are pissy because you can't/don't want to solve puzzles. Ok, fine, continue about your business.

I'm not that very good at puzzles. I was just pointing out that it doesn't make it easier when everyone's got their own little bit to add to the puzzle when it really isn't necessary which is annoying, but I guess sometimes there really isn't anything to solve and you're just doing it for your own enjoyment. That aside though, I guess I was wishing for more of a Joker-type event where everyone was more or less OOC (IC ingame) trying to solve the puzzle. As for the LESIG/PE relationship, I really don't see that big of a difference between this and the Joker events; long, interactive puzzles that grasps most of the community's attention. Just because it was LESIG instead of PE doesn't change the theme. You also have to realize Algorithm Black was sort of at the "meh" popularity level for a lot of people until they just started naming out people and giving out garbled/mysterious soundbits and pictures. When people get attention, they get involved, so that boosted them up. They have Raijinn supporting it, so more and more just keep getting on the bandwagon. What's wrong with that? Nothing. This event is a great idea, it's just I question some of their motives.

I'm sorry if I made you feel that I hate the event because of my own disability.

-Zippy: Well, I guess for me there's a fine line between Real Life and this game. I don't really want people from MxO giving me phone calls or whatever. MxO is almost like a second identity for me, just something I do when I'm bored and I usually have a lot of time to be bored. You enjoyed it, that's your opinion. It could possibly be paranoia, but I'm rather cautious when handing out information to anonymous people, even if they're part of this knit-pick community.

Ballak wrote:

Foxxdie wrote:

Ballak wrote:

naes177 wrote:

Because LESIG events are so much better and well-conceived?  Lollerskates.

You would know, amirite?

I never said Algorithm: Black is bad, just certain parts of it I don't agree with. It's good, people like it. Don't get rid of it. Some of the things they do are questionable, but there really isn't that much of a majority against it. You even said yourself you think it's one of the best player events since the beginning and that's fine.

I would know, and yeah it is, by far.

Criticism is always nice and I've offered mine, but it just sounds like you are pissy because you can't/don't want to solve puzzles. Ok, fine, continue about your business.

I'm not that very good at puzzles. I was just pointing out that it doesn't make it easier when everyone's got their own little bit to add to the puzzle when it really isn't necessary which is annoying, but I guess sometimes there really isn't anything to solve and you're just doing it for your own enjoyment. That aside though, I guess I was wishing for more of a Joker-type event where everyone was more or less OOC (IC ingame) trying to solve the puzzle. As for the LESIG/PE relationship, I really don't see that big of a difference between this and the Joker events; long, interactive puzzles that grasps most of the community's attention. Just because it was LESIG instead of PE doesn't change the theme. You also have to realize Algorithm Black was sort of at the "meh" popularity level for a lot of people until they just started naming out people and giving out garbled/mysterious soundbits and pictures. When people get attention, they get involved, so that boosted them up. They have Raijinn supporting it, so more and more just keep getting on the bandwagon. What's wrong with that? Nothing. This event is a great idea, it's just I question some of their motives.

I'm sorry if I made you feel that I hate the event because of my own disability.

-Zippy: Well, I guess for me there's a fine line between Real Life and this game. I don't really want people from MxO giving me phone calls or whatever. MxO is almost like a second identity for me, just something I do when I'm bored and I usually have a lot of time to be bored. You enjoyed it, that's your opinion. It could possibly be paranoia, but I'm rather cautious when handing out information to anonymous people, even if they're part of this knit-pick community.

So you're basically saying you didn't think it was a good event because you couldn't figure things out and/or didn't enjoy what you did manage to figure out?

Concise criticisms.

~V

No, I'm saying it'd be easier to solve the *CENSORED* thing if I didn't have to go through everyone's RP *CENSORED* that doesn't appeal to me in the first place.

But it's not like I have any control over that, right? So yeah, it's annoying. I also added to my previous post that enlightened more to that, but unfortunately you can't quote things twice without having to opening up a new window etc. IE for the lose.

I guess we are not entitled to an opinion though, Vanil. Or at least, if it's not a positive one.

Yes you both bring up good points, and I admit my arguement/complaint is sort of bsed in some things as it was most scornfully pointed out by some of the posters here. I appreciate you not criticizing me on my opinion. The only thing I wish to say is that for them to contact you in real life, although you willingly give up the information, is just a little, I don't know, strange. It's for the event, of course, but you don't know who you gave those numbers to, and what about after the event? It's not like the information will be obsolete.

Meow

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All data other than screenname, password, and email is voluntary. If you do provide us with the optional data, it will be used for event purposes only. Your information will not be distributed to any third parties. Access to this data is restricted to event organizers only. For security reasons, the data is stored in a separate system, and will be deleted when the event is over.

Thank you for your support.

-The Algorithm: Black Team.

I think it's great that a group of people are willing to invest time and come up with something like this for MxO.

On a side note I'm upset that my sig was changed... that darn Algorithm *shifty*

I just want everyone to know that this whole thing has been a sham; an elaborate plan for these "people" to recruit you to their side for the real purpose of getting rid of ManBearPig.

You have all been fooled by the AlGore-ithm.

You'll never get me! /shakefist

I just want everyone to know that this whole thing has been a sham; an elaborate plan for these "people" to recruit you to their side for the real purpose of getting rid of ManBearPig.

You have all been fooled by the AlGore-ithm.

You'll never get me! /shakefist