sugaree wrote:
Asna wrote:ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:Asna wrote:With Ben's departure, we are seeing the end of the Matrix story. The story that hundreds upon hundreds of people helped to realize on film, in three video games, in comics and in the printed word. The Wachowski Brothers handed stewardship of their universe over to Chadwick, who then passed the torch to Ben, and now Ben is putting it down, its flame exhausted.Overreacting, much? I'm sure that the bigwigs are aware of MxO's main goal in its existance. There will be a replacement.If you're so sure of this, how do you explain the complete disclosure of Rare's year-long story plans? Why wouldn't he keep them to pass on to his successor to build from?/asIt's a really good question, Asna, and one I have been asking myself. I'm assuming for the time being that the story was perhaps not as secret as most of us thought. Or maybe the Wachowskis want to use it to build an MMO based on Speed Racer.
Asna wrote:
ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:Asna wrote:With Ben's departure, we are seeing the end of the Matrix story. The story that hundreds upon hundreds of people helped to realize on film, in three video games, in comics and in the printed word. The Wachowski Brothers handed stewardship of their universe over to Chadwick, who then passed the torch to Ben, and now Ben is putting it down, its flame exhausted.Overreacting, much? I'm sure that the bigwigs are aware of MxO's main goal in its existance. There will be a replacement.If you're so sure of this, how do you explain the complete disclosure of Rare's year-long story plans? Why wouldn't he keep them to pass on to his successor to build from?/as
ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:
Asna wrote:With Ben's departure, we are seeing the end of the Matrix story. The story that hundreds upon hundreds of people helped to realize on film, in three video games, in comics and in the printed word. The Wachowski Brothers handed stewardship of their universe over to Chadwick, who then passed the torch to Ben, and now Ben is putting it down, its flame exhausted.Overreacting, much? I'm sure that the bigwigs are aware of MxO's main goal in its existance. There will be a replacement.
With Ben's departure, we are seeing the end of the Matrix story. The story that hundreds upon hundreds of people helped to realize on film, in three video games, in comics and in the printed word. The Wachowski Brothers handed stewardship of their universe over to Chadwick, who then passed the torch to Ben, and now Ben is putting it down, its flame exhausted.
Overreacting, much? I'm sure that the bigwigs are aware of MxO's main goal in its existance. There will be a replacement.
If you're so sure of this, how do you explain the complete disclosure of Rare's year-long story plans? Why wouldn't he keep them to pass on to his successor to build from?
/as
It's a really good question, Asna, and one I have been asking myself. I'm assuming for the time being that the story was perhaps not as secret as most of us thought. Or maybe the Wachowskis want to use it to build an MMO based on Speed Racer.
I don't disagree, but there's still the issue of suddenly bringing all existing, ongoing story arcs to a complete stop. If a successor wanted to do things differently, they should at least have the option of wrapping up previous story arcs in a way that makes sense to them, rather than starting with a .. dare I say it? ... tabula rasa. *ducks and runs*
I think it is self-evident that there are no plans to replace Rarebit at the present time. Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Sad to see you go Rarebit. You have put a lot of work into this project and we appreciate you for it. I wish you good luck in your next career move.
It was awesome playing along side you during live EPN events and meeting and listening to you at Fan Faire.
Thanks for everything you've done for the game, whether it be something that was retextured and reused or something completely new. It made the game fun for me time and time again, either doing something alone or with friends. I've rebuilt a friendship from helping someone close to me grind for their System Suit and I've made new friends from Zero One farming and other activities.
Like others have said though, maybe stop by sometime and level a character.
Oh God.. I was hoping to meet you at FanFaire this year. Darn!
Skull101 wrote:
"My Two Cents"This, I'm sorry to say, could possibly help mxo. You seen what he wrote about the story being in our hands, well people, are those of you that have been around as long as I just going to let the overall story die? We are the Red Pills of a community where nothing was ever givin to us without us having to bish about it. Perhaps now, it's finally time, to do what I've been saying this whole time, Give us some dev abilities so we can create our own events, I say give us the ability, through a pill to make hostiles appear outa no where and attack anyone. Rare, you did try, you weren't given enough stuff to go with, however, the 1 really big mistake that you all made was never giving the players total control of this game. In my opinion this is the main reason MxO is going to die. You think that a small group of devs can continue a story as complex as The Matrix??????? Hell no! It's up to the creative minds of the people that loved it so much, why in the world did you ever give into us players by not focusing on the story and focusing more on bs content that only managed to drop people's intrest in the game even further.TBH I never gave a **** about the content, I cared more about intresting new events that would happen from time to time, intresting new things that could happen, I for one know my charactor was a big! part of the matrix story, I for one know that most of the story that I attempted to go with was only to help this game. But this thread isn't about me, it's about This so called nail in the coffin I keep hearing about. Bish please. SOE ruined this game, the players kept it from dying for this long, we can revive it completely, content, story, it's all pointless without people here to witness and use it, we as the people should keep the story alive, we should be givin the tools by soe to do so, and if we succeed, we will be giving new content, new Devs and possibly even a new story that we, the mofos that have really been keeping this game alive, have made, there never really was a story, it was all bs stuff rare was just making up off the top of his head, the story should have went towards the war, and towards awsome fights and a winner in the battle. Not towards some wireframe bs that made NO SENSE AT ALL!!!!!! And not towards some bs content that really, anyone? Someone tell me how that is story based content? PLS?! I thought so, this game was never, and I mean NEVER about the content, it was about the story!!!!!!! Stop and think about that before you click the unsubbscribe button, think about it, just because we don't have live events, just because there is no dev to run the show, just because the content is no longer reuseable, doesn't mean the story has to end, this just means that SOE will no longer be writing the story, and we should.I for one know, alot of you out there are good story tellers, you are good rpers, I when I put my mind to it could even come up with logical story, but one man, as you can see finally became overwelmed because everything was placed on his shoulders. The story should have always been writen by us, not by SOE, the game should be run by those truely dedicated to it and it's continuation, not by those just trying to make a quick buck. So I challenge you all, each and everyone that reads this post, those of you that don't want to see this story go down the crapper, those of you that think they can do better, write my friends, write the story and then, if you can, attempt to act it out, attempt to do what even the devs could not, Continue the story, the way it was ment to be done. By us!!!!!!!!!!!!Post edited. Reason Code 001: Bypassing language filter.
"My Two Cents"
This, I'm sorry to say, could possibly help mxo. You seen what he wrote about the story being in our hands, well people, are those of you that have been around as long as I just going to let the overall story die? We are the Red Pills of a community where nothing was ever givin to us without us having to bish about it. Perhaps now, it's finally time, to do what I've been saying this whole time, Give us some dev abilities so we can create our own events, I say give us the ability, through a pill to make hostiles appear outa no where and attack anyone.
Rare, you did try, you weren't given enough stuff to go with, however, the 1 really big mistake that you all made was never giving the players total control of this game. In my opinion this is the main reason MxO is going to die. You think that a small group of devs can continue a story as complex as The Matrix??????? Hell no! It's up to the creative minds of the people that loved it so much, why in the world did you ever give into us players by not focusing on the story and focusing more on bs content that only managed to drop people's intrest in the game even further.
TBH I never gave a **** about the content, I cared more about intresting new events that would happen from time to time, intresting new things that could happen, I for one know my charactor was a big! part of the matrix story, I for one know that most of the story that I attempted to go with was only to help this game. But this thread isn't about me, it's about This so called nail in the coffin I keep hearing about. Bish please. SOE ruined this game, the players kept it from dying for this long, we can revive it completely, content, story, it's all pointless without people here to witness and use it, we as the people should keep the story alive, we should be givin the tools by soe to do so, and if we succeed, we will be giving new content, new Devs and possibly even a new story that we, the mofos that have really been keeping this game alive, have made, there never really was a story, it was all bs stuff rare was just making up off the top of his head, the story should have went towards the war, and towards awsome fights and a winner in the battle. Not towards some wireframe bs that made NO SENSE AT ALL!!!!!! And not towards some bs content that really, anyone? Someone tell me how that is story based content? PLS?! I thought so, this game was never, and I mean NEVER about the content, it was about the story!!!!!!! Stop and think about that before you click the unsubbscribe button, think about it, just because we don't have live events, just because there is no dev to run the show, just because the content is no longer reuseable, doesn't mean the story has to end, this just means that SOE will no longer be writing the story, and we should.
I for one know, alot of you out there are good story tellers, you are good rpers, I when I put my mind to it could even come up with logical story, but one man, as you can see finally became overwelmed because everything was placed on his shoulders. The story should have always been writen by us, not by SOE, the game should be run by those truely dedicated to it and it's continuation, not by those just trying to make a quick buck. So I challenge you all, each and everyone that reads this post, those of you that don't want to see this story go down the crapper, those of you that think they can do better, write my friends, write the story and then, if you can, attempt to act it out, attempt to do what even the devs could not, Continue the story, the way it was ment to be done. By us!!!!!!!!!!!!
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All of the above just ignore.
Self-evident? What makes it self-evident? As far as I can understand, Rare's departure is fresh news. Give SOE at least a little time to react.
deimoslvov wrote:
Asna wrote:I think it is self-evident that there are no plans to replace Rarebit at the present time. Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.Self-evident? What makes it self-evident? As far as I can understand, Rare's departure is fresh news. Give SOE at least a little time to react.
We have given them about 2 years to react you think they're just gonna start doing stuff now? lol
azarazamataz wrote:
deimoslvov wrote:Asna wrote:I think it is self-evident that there are no plans to replace Rarebit at the present time. Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.Self-evident? What makes it self-evident? As far as I can understand, Rare's departure is fresh news. Give SOE at least a little time to react.We have given them about 2 years to react you think they're just gonna start doing stuff now? lol
Do not indulge in thinking! (c) Carlos Castaneda
vadorlord wrote:
Skull101 wrote:"My Two Cents"This, I'm sorry to say, could possibly help mxo. You seen what he wrote about the story being in our hands, well people, are those of you that have been around as long as I just going to let the overall story die? We are the Red Pills of a community where nothing was ever givin to us without us having to bish about it. Perhaps now, it's finally time, to do what I've been saying this whole time, Give us some dev abilities so we can create our own events, I say give us the ability, through a pill to make hostiles appear outa no where and attack anyone. Rare, you did try, you weren't given enough stuff to go with, however, the 1 really big mistake that you all made was never giving the players total control of this game. In my opinion this is the main reason MxO is going to die. You think that a small group of devs can continue a story as complex as The Matrix??????? Hell no! It's up to the creative minds of the people that loved it so much, why in the world did you ever give into us players by not focusing on the story and focusing more on bs content that only managed to drop people's intrest in the game even further.TBH I never gave a **** about the content, I cared more about intresting new events that would happen from time to time, intresting new things that could happen, I for one know my charactor was a big! part of the matrix story, I for one know that most of the story that I attempted to go with was only to help this game. But this thread isn't about me, it's about This so called nail in the coffin I keep hearing about. Bish please. SOE ruined this game, the players kept it from dying for this long, we can revive it completely, content, story, it's all pointless without people here to witness and use it, we as the people should keep the story alive, we should be givin the tools by soe to do so, and if we succeed, we will be giving new content, new Devs and possibly even a new story that we, the mofos that have really been keeping this game alive, have made, there never really was a story, it was all bs stuff rare was just making up off the top of his head, the story should have went towards the war, and towards awsome fights and a winner in the battle. Not towards some wireframe bs that made NO SENSE AT ALL!!!!!! And not towards some bs content that really, anyone? Someone tell me how that is story based content? PLS?! I thought so, this game was never, and I mean NEVER about the content, it was about the story!!!!!!! Stop and think about that before you click the unsubbscribe button, think about it, just because we don't have live events, just because there is no dev to run the show, just because the content is no longer reuseable, doesn't mean the story has to end, this just means that SOE will no longer be writing the story, and we should.I for one know, alot of you out there are good story tellers, you are good rpers, I when I put my mind to it could even come up with logical story, but one man, as you can see finally became overwelmed because everything was placed on his shoulders. The story should have always been writen by us, not by SOE, the game should be run by those truely dedicated to it and it's continuation, not by those just trying to make a quick buck. So I challenge you all, each and everyone that reads this post, those of you that don't want to see this story go down the crapper, those of you that think they can do better, write my friends, write the story and then, if you can, attempt to act it out, attempt to do what even the devs could not, Continue the story, the way it was ment to be done. By us!!!!!!!!!!!!Post edited. Reason Code 001: Bypassing language filter.All of the above just ignore.
Hilarious!
When was the last time SOE replaced a developer for the Matrix Online? When was the last time they advertised, or had any kind of special? What Matrix Online freebies have been given out for registering at Fan Faire, besides digital clothing? How many instances of Niobe, Morpheus, Seraph, or just a random Agent do you count on SOE's website?
Fen wrote:
deimoslvov wrote:Asna wrote:I think it is self-evident that there are no plans to replace Rarebit at the present time. Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.Self-evident? What makes it self-evident? As far as I can understand, Rare's departure is fresh news. Give SOE at least a little time to react.When was the last time SOE replaced a developer for the Matrix Online? When was the last time they advertised, or had any kind of special? What Matrix Online freebies have been given out for registering at Fan Faire, besides digital clothing? How many instances of Niobe, Morpheus, Seraph, or just a random Agent do you count on SOE's website?
What he said lol
Well, WB has something to do with that too...Remember WB still own the rights to these characters. They just licenced this game to SOE for players to play. that's one thing i hate about Red tape and legality issues.
When was the last time SOE replaced a developer for the Matrix Online?
A developer is one thing. The developer is another.
OK... posting on DN1 was never my thing.
I just want to thank you, Rare, for your contribution to my mxo experience--to everyone's mxo experience.
I was looking through pics from my past, and decided I must post them... since this will probably be my first and last post.
Just a sample of the enjoyment I experienced in this game...
Thank you again, Rare. Wishing you all the best with any future endeavors. Take care.
Farewell, Rarebit.
Long ago, perhaps even the greatest supporters of The Matrix Online may have resigned themselves to the possibility that MxO might never receive its rightfully deserved critical, pop-cultural, or artistic appreciation. Most of us were just pleased to be part of a diversion that possessed a dynamic storyline, fostered a close-knit player-staff community, and extended a thought-provoking universe.
Maybe more than any other massively multiplayer online role playing game, MxO had substantial dramatic-arts, philosophical, scientific, & esoteric components and contained contemporary socio-cultural & political commentary.
If you were to read a review of MxO even in any of the best-known gaming publications, you might never find out these other levels existed. Perhaps the Matrix Online wasn't destined to sell the millions of copies like the most successful MMO currently, World of Warcraft. Perhaps it wouldn't be the Matrix if it tried to be like WoW.
In 1999, at the turn of a new century, the Wachowski brothers prompted us to ask the question, "What is the Matrix?" With that question driving viewers, the movie placed emphasis on the importance of independent thought. Instead of assuming that their audience would favor only one broad interpretation, the Wackowski's allowed each fan to arrive at his own conclusions.
The Matrix was multi-layered (omni-layered) in parallel to the real world; the curiosity inducing symbols were borrowed directly from humanity's history. Even the most perceptive fans and staff were often likely to miss hidden layers of meaning here or there. In the vein of one lofty interpretation, the task of completely understanding every layer of the Matrix would be almost akin to deciphering the known great mysteries of the universe in totality.
Through the guise of a video game, the Matrix Online was a gallery of electronic art, rich with weighted ancient symbolism brought into the context of the height of contemporary civilization. Everyone involved became a part of a grand experiment; opposing viewpoints straight from the great philosophers of history dueled in this digital playground.
But you didn't need to be an armchair philosopher to be intrigued by the game; it was enough that the ‘Extreme Falling Kick' looked incredible. Like the movies, the philosophy was there if you wanted to see it, but the deep questions could simply function as icing on a cake of visually stunning effects.
When the user took part in a live event, he wrote a continuing script with every other participant. Events in the Matrix Online so greatly immersed the player that we saw the players' personalities come through their characters; it was enjoyable to decipher why someone picked the organization they did. You had the open society of E Pluribus Neo contrasted to the guarded secrecy of the Cypherite point of view, the aristocracy of the Merovingian compared to the highly structured meritocracy of the Machines.
So, Ben, you picked a great game to work on and eventually lead. The Matrix Online has a unique place in the overall world of video games that points to future trends that are still yet to hit the mainstream. Maybe it was a little too hip for its time for everyone to jump on board; just know that the people that did take this journey with you have been positively affected by your contributions.
In the last half-decade, we've opened our eyes a little bit more to the world around us, and I hope that you have learned something positive from us in turn.
