odj wrote:Ic3b3rg wrote:(( You guys need to come over to the dark side and join zion, we have real Liaisons ))That's the whole point of this thread, we shouldn't have to go zion just because our Liaisons are crap, we should be allowed to have a choice of which side we want to represent and then have Liaisons that do their job and back us up. QFT
Ic3b3rg wrote:(( You guys need to come over to the dark side and join zion, we have real Liaisons ))That's the whole point of this thread, we shouldn't have to go zion just because our Liaisons are crap, we should be allowed to have a choice of which side we want to represent and then have Liaisons that do their job and back us up.
(( You guys need to come over to the dark side and join zion, we have real Liaisons ))
NightTrace wrote:odj wrote:Ic3b3rg wrote:(( You guys need to come over to the dark side and join zion, we have real Liaisons ))That's the whole point of this thread, we shouldn't have to go zion just because our Liaisons are crap, we should be allowed to have a choice of which side we want to represent and then have Liaisons that do their job and back us up. QFT Liaisons, shouldn't have any bearing on what organisation you work with....surely?
It's ticking over to the four month mark. My question is, they obviously don't care, why do you? And by they, I mean the decision makers. Or maker, in this case. Just drop it. And we can all get back to the many non-answers and =PPP.
Maybe next year, if we're REALLY lucky, we'll get Pink Formal Gloves, or something even cooler!
Read the OP, not the replies, so excuse me if I repeat anything already said. Exivy is a Cyph liaison and she still interacts with me more than Torman and Eventual do. While I will respect them for being our liaisons when they are being our liaisons, I can't respect them when they're nowhere to be found. Once they were threatened to be replaced by more active LESIG actors, they suddenly became active again, but only on days when there was an event or if they had to tell us to do something. They outright refuse to get involved in the community. They refuse to go to player events or parties. They refuse to be active on any day that's not a LESIG event revolving around this Major Masters device crap. What's going on here? TO RAREBIT: THEY OUTRIGHT REFUSE TO GET INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY THEY OUTRIGHT REFUSE TO GET INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY REFUSE Off with their heads.
It strikes me that there are people (like our friends Fen and Trace) who are always IC, who have demonstrated that their characters care for their org, and who have shown the ability to draw the line between IC and OOC information and attitudes (even Trace. ). I've always wondered why LESIG wasn't chosen in an open fashion, with liaisons appointed from within the ranks of respected community members. Sure, there would be cries of favoritism - most of these respected players have particular factions - but honestly I'm starting to think that "Omg favoritism" would be less of a problem than "our liaisons don't know our community and never log in". People like Fen, Trace, Pyraci... these guys would be great liaisons, if they were willing to agree to drop their factions and work for the greater good of the org as a whole. The thing is... I know these guys. You know these guys. They're part of our community. They're all capable of handling the job. When the liaisons started showing up, I had the same issue (and NOT just because I wanted Void to have a shot at Merv liaison around here - though everyone who knows me should know that I wouldn't turn it down if offered). Why didn't the Devs choose respected and known characters from within the orgs? Characters with existing stories and connections to the various factions? It may never happen, and it probably won't, but I still feel like that would be the best way to handle things. - Void
I agree.
I suppose the only thing I see restraining that option is that many players have made themselves known OOC, as we are right now, and many others know how to contact these people in an out of character manner (XFire, AIM, E-Mail, whatever) and I could see where that might be a liability.
As it stands, most people have not seen the current LESIG members go out of character (spare appropriate moments), at least within the context of the game, and do not know the identity of the player behind the character, so they wouldn't know if they've ever engaged with them in any Out of Character context. All the know is the character, not the player. So I could see where having the player in the mix might be a bit of a problem.
However, there is also accountability. If you go inactive without reason or explanation, you will be hounded personally, and will not be able to hide behind the shield of anonynimity.
In my opinion, promotions would make more sense, being that currently it's just "Oh, someone you've never heard of was promoted to liaison." "Wait, what? I've done more than them! I've never even heard of them, and they never even considered me for the position!"
Seems like a bit of a catch-22 as far as remaining in character goes. It'd work fine for me if the players promoted would have to be full-time in character from that point on, though. 'Cause it really does bug me when I see a liaison go out of character for some stupid reason like telling someone not to curse (*cough*, Rivvet, *cough*).
But I guess all of that is beside the point. Yes, this situation does need to be remedied, and we have run out of time and patience. Can 'em and move on to the reserves. That's just how it's got to be.
The issue can be avoided no longer.
Accountability, now theres a word that needs to be used more often. Why would the big wigs of this game (those higher up on the food chain above walrus mind you) allow the use of Players as Liasions to the LET (rarebit) which is suppose to keep the community informed of events and help in making this community even tighter with richer RP and more story tellingness (yes i made up that word).
We know that this game has no funding, and its down a lot on the Dev team since HCfrog left. But cant they just get a couple of Interns and sit them down and say "Ok, for the next 8 hours of your shift and any time your here you are going to be helping by being a Liasion"
And what is happening with the money that is being made off the Ads inside the matrix game anyways? Is that just getting collected by those big wigs?
I am also a big supporter of a Test server (we had one before!) but I guess the live servers are enough to be used as a test bed for the patchs I guess.
This rant was brought to you by me, my views are in no way how I view my fellow players and/or Devs/CSRs/QAteam/interns/Webteam/or any other job titled that one or two people have. My views are strictly my own and how I preceive how the Big wigs are running things.
Reposco is on, he just doesn't entertain other Organization's Operatives the way Zeissman will.
Actually, Reposco's a pretty fun guy to talk to. The man even offered to go have a drink with me. Zeissman and Reposco will carry on conversations and debates with me, Toluca will tease me with cake, Merrit and Rylet allow me to help them out and chat with me in general.
Eventual and Torman barely talk to me, and from what I hear, won't even conversate with members of opposing organizations.
Been there, done that, and it pissed everyone off. TAMIE anyone?
