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 12/15/2008 03:41:12
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Ascendent Logic
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I was reading a cinema magazine this mornig and I saw this OMG!!!! 
<< As far as I'm concerned, Neo is dead>> CRY CRY >______>
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 12/15/2008 03:44:57
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Jacked Out
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Well if Neo says that Neo is dead, then Neo is dead... 
Heres your suicide booth EPN, let the mass suicides begin!
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 12/15/2008 05:10:13
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Mainframe Invader
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What else does he say in the interview?
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 12/15/2008 06:10:09
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Fansite Operator
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DucKKeRR wrote: << As far as I'm concerned, Neo is dead>> CRY CRY >______>
Uh, yeah ... It's in the Revolutions script book (which I got with the scripts for the other two movies when I bought the standard definition Ultimate Matrix Collection). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 769 INT. MACHINE CITY TOWER - NIGHT 769 A final surge rushes through Neo, his body convulsing against his metal coils and we see the light drain out of him, as life slowly leaves him and his body falls quiet and still. Neo dies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Frankly, I thought it was clear that he was dead with the whole funeral-like tone of the scene showing his body being dragged away by the Machines. And you don't play that kind of music for the unconscious/tired hero.
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 12/15/2008 06:26:14
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MC Photographer
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Othinn1 wrote: Frankly, I thought it was clear that he was dead with the whole funeral-like tone of the scene showing his body being dragged away by the Machines. And you don't play that kind of music for the unconscious/tired hero.
Tired Hero is dead tired.
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 12/15/2008 06:45:41
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Veteran Operative
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Frankly it would have been a p*** poor ending if the guy ended up surviving.
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 12/15/2008 08:46:48
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Vindicator
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It definitely ties in with the whole "full circle/savior/martyr" theme if the main character dies in the end. Of course that doesn't leave out Reincarnation. :o
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 12/15/2008 08:53:17
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Fansite Operator
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Ballak wrote: It definitely ties in with the whole "full circle/savior/martyr" theme if the main character dies in the end. Of course that doesn't leave out Reincarnation. :o
Or at the very least there may be something of Neo in the Matrix and/or the Machine City.
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 12/15/2008 09:05:00
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Transcendent
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Duckker! Guárdame una copia de ese periódico.
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 12/15/2008 11:13:16
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Jacked Out
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Reeves once said in an interview that the first film was about birth, the second was about life, and the third was about death. It's also been stated by Reeves, Silver, and the Wachowskis that "Neo's story is finished". And as mentioned, the script states plainly that Neo dies (two days before Revolutions opened, I foolishly let someone at Warner spoil this for me). Nothing in this game trumps the above.
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 12/15/2008 11:22:34
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Mainframe Invader
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I always thought Neo was dead, but the idea of the one, the anomaly, the remainder of the equation could still be utilised. There were 'ones' before Neo, I doubt it was the same man re-incarnated. So if the system were put to the point where the cycle was reinstated for some reason, there could still be a 'one' but possibly quite a different version. I can't (and don't want to) see 'Neo' coming back, but another 'one'... that possibility, no matter how small, still exists.
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 12/15/2008 11:49:52
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Enlightened Mind
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Vinia wrote: I always thought Neo was dead, but the idea of the one, the anomaly, the remainder of the equation could still be utilised. There were 'ones' before Neo, I doubt it was the same man re-incarnated. So if the system were put to the point where the cycle was reinstated for some reason, there could still be a 'one' but possibly quite a different version. I can't (and don't want to) see 'Neo' coming back, but another 'one'... that possibility, no matter how small, still exists.
Neo's dead. Even if the script isn't good enough for you, in PON, the little Wachovski interlude before you fight mega-smith they point out "the whole martyr thing." You can't be a martyr and still be alive. That being said, the question becomes are those being awakened enough to balance out the equation? If not, then perhaps we'll see another 'one' come around. Though I doubt any/many operatives will be alive to witness it. More than likely there won't be another occurence of the one until Zion/New Zion has been destroyed and the cycle restarted.
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 12/15/2008 11:50:59
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Vindicator
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Vinia wrote: I can't (and don't want to) see 'Neo' coming back, but another 'one'... that possibility, no matter how small, still exists.
Agreed. At release we thought that we'd see that within this game's lifetime (Sarah Edmontons) but it seems like our only connection is a friend of a friend's roomate's cousin, twice removed, of the milkman who delivered to her neighbor.
>.< But my fingers are cross that the BIP sage evolves to clear up some of the mysteries of the One (Not necessarily Neo/Trinity).
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 12/15/2008 17:07:08
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Mainframe Invader
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QuiDormit wrote: Neo's dead. Even if the script isn't good enough for you, in PON, the little Wachovski interlude before you fight mega-smith they point out "the whole martyr thing." You can't be a martyr and still be alive.
... Yes... I know... thats why I said I always thought he was dead and that was even before I completed PoN and read the script, it just made more sense. I didn't say and wasn't trying to say that he may still be alive and/or come back at any point in my post.
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 12/15/2008 17:36:27
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Transcendent
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Ebola wrote: Well if Neo says that Neo is dead, then Neo is dead... 
Heres your suicide booth EPN, let the mass suicides begin!
We know he's dead we just want his body the machines have stated it wasnt recycled so we want it.
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