Update 58 Discussion

**exsuscito**

Rarebit wrote:

Hm... Maybe we could just combine them all into one ability called "Hyper-Win"?

Stacking any two, at any time would be perfect-world, though I don't know how you'd legislate against the stacking of all four.

**TonyJaa**

Well done Rare..No viral deflect.Let's all be hackers....Better yet let's all have hybrids:ma with hacker so we can have viral deflection.A great patch went down the drain.
Booooooooooooooo...

TonyJaa

**Silenci0**

Rarebit wrote:

Oh, also QA has approved the update for release, and deployment is set for Monday.

everybody regroups for the sploit hunt!

i gonna focus on 0-0-0

hah!

**Brommerz77**

9mmfu wrote:

Or you could a Viral Defense buff from another player if its so much trouble...
But /shurg pardon me while I dodge the falling pieces of the sky.

Lol sensing a bad move? SMILEY

**ZippyTheSquirrel**

Man, and just when hackers were making a comeback in PvP... this will really make them pop out of woodwork...

Oh, the Ravager zergs............. *shudder*

Hurm, this redefines PvP as I personally know it.

...redefines....

We can has concert now? X3

**Garu**

BEWARE OF CONCLUSION JUMPERZ!!1

The patch notes clearly state that efforts in balancing the tree have been implemented. Wait until you've experienced the change before freaking out, guys.

**AltDimension**

Rarebit wrote:

Oh, also QA has approved the update for release, and deployment is set for Monday.

Cool Beans. Apart from the Hyper-Deflect thing of course.

**Brommerz77**

Rarebit wrote:

Hm... Maybe we could just combine them all into one ability called "Hyper-Win"?

Or make it so you can actually have group pvp. Not not continue to make trees like Duelist or MA useless. Because all that happens now, and from the next patch, will get worse is; Interlock....get zerged by knifes and guns and not have any defense to it. And now hacker added on top. Like ex said, interlock now becomes a deathtrap and you push pvp and combat to use spy and hacker to win. Taking it further away from the matrixy feel.

**byond**

Rarebit wrote:

Hm... Maybe we could just combine them all into one ability called "Hyper-Win"?

Why not u just made "hyper-lost".

**TonyJaa**

Rarebit wrote:

Hm... Maybe we could just combine them all into one ability called "Hyper-Failure"?

Fixed..

TonyJaa

RoganClark

I sense great failure ahead...

**Rarebit**

Brommerz77 wrote:

Rarebit wrote:
Hm... Maybe we could just combine them all into one ability called "Hyper-Win"?

Or make it so you can actually have group pvp. Not not continue to make trees like Duelist or MA useless. Because all that happens now, and from the next patch, will get worse is; Interlock....get zerged by knifes and guns and not have any defense to it. And now hacker added on top. Like ex said, interlock now becomes a deathtrap and you push pvp and combat to use spy and hacker to win. Taking it further away from the matrixy feel.

Oh I dunno if it's quite that simple. Like a lot of stuff Dracomet does, it's all based on math and scary stuff like that... Anyway, let's not forget about this and this and this and this and this and this:

-- Deflect Bullets 1.0 has an additional 0.48 points of throw defense per level and adds +10 concentration.
-- Deflect Virus 1.0 has an additional 0.48 points of melee defense per level and adds a 4% negative condition sweep pulse per aura pulse.
-- Personal Firewall 1.0 adds an additional +10 resistance to non-viral damage types and heals about 75 health when terminated.
-- Personal Firewall 2.0 adds an additional +20 resistance to non-viral damage types and heals about 250 health when terminated.
-- Network Firewall 1.0 adds +5 defense to non-viral defense types and restores about 10 IS when terminated.
-- Viral Shielding adds 0.24 defense per level to non-viral defense types and restores about 25 IS when terminated.

**exsuscito**

It just means you have an equal chance of defending yourself against every ability, whereas beforehand you were permanently set-up to defend against hacks. This was for no other reason than a Hacker's firepower out of interlock. Along that same mode of thinking, you could argue that we should have Hyper-Sense running permanently.

Yes, some will look to take advantage and switch to Hacker, but tactics and PvP as a whole will balance out, as it always does.

**AltDimension**

yuenwoping wrote:

Rarebit wrote:
Hm... Maybe we could just combine them all into one ability called "Hyper-Failure"?

Fixed..

TonyJaa

Win

**SolidRevolver**

exsuscito wrote:

Rarebit wrote:
Hm... Maybe we could just combine them all into one ability called "Hyper-Win"?

Stacking any two, at any time would be perfect-world, though I don't know how you'd legislate against the stacking of all four.

That is what I always thought should happen. That way we can pretect ourselfs from the IL opponent and the most prominant opponent out of IL But still must make tactical decision. I am just worried this may cause everyone to avoid IL loads now unless they have someone who can buff them each time they need it.

I do like that thought though, it will give the UM/FE tree more PVP uses.