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Jurymen wrote:
I will look over the first thread and if things are ok then I will move it back and we can use that one.

For now lets just keep it civil.. not hard to do. We are all entitled to a say in this so lets use that right and make it good.

Just keep in mind that you might not know the true story behind the actions of someone else...

Hang with me guys. Thanks!

K.


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Jurymen wrote:
I will look over the first thread and if things are ok then I will move it back and we can use that one.

For now lets just keep it civil.. not hard to do. We are all entitled to a say in this so lets use that right and make it good.

Just keep in mind that you might not know the true story behind the actions of someone else...

Hang with me guys. Thanks!


There you go.  Dissent does not automatically equal flame, or something lacking in civility.

Thank you Jim Cunningham Jury.




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NightTrace wrote:
Havocide wrote:
Vitamin wrote:
Jurymen wrote:
Just real quick lets keep this to one thread... I moved the other ones.


... oops.

 

Edit: Hey, really, I would like the original thread to be put back in the public section. There wasn't any flaming in it, and really had some good discussion in there.

I hate to say it, there was too much flaming. I want this thread on topic, i know how you feel about the issue i promise!
Thats a mods job, unless you suddenly had "moderator" added to your list of special things, please dont try and do their job. kthx.
FFS, i wasnt acting anything. I just stated how it was! Seeing you all want a thread to stay on topic i backed it up!! Though you seem to have trouble keeping your own posts on topic!!


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Jurymen wrote:
I will look over the first thread and if things are ok then I will move it back and we can use that one.

For now lets just keep it civil.. not hard to do. We are all entitled to a say in this so lets use that right and make it good.

Just keep in mind that you might not know the true story behind the actions of someone else...

Hang with me guys. Thanks!
righto


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Havocide wrote:
NightTrace wrote:
Havocide wrote:
Vitamin wrote:
Jurymen wrote:
Just real quick lets keep this to one thread... I moved the other ones.


... oops.

 

Edit: Hey, really, I would like the original thread to be put back in the public section. There wasn't any flaming in it, and really had some good discussion in there.

I hate to say it, there was too much flaming. I want this thread on topic, i know how you feel about the issue i promise!
Thats a mods job, unless you suddenly had "moderator" added to your list of special things, please dont try and do their job. kthx.
FFS, i wasnt acting anything. I just stated how it was! Seeing you all want a thread to stay on topic i backed it up!! Though you seem to have trouble keeping your own posts on topic!!
Quote one single flame (not someone didn't agree with you) FlamingJimmy, just one.


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See this is the stuff that has to stop. Nothing will get done if we can't get along.

First off Night Trace is correct in saying that only moderators have the final say in what is spam/flames/etc. and whats not. One of our problems we have is people are us to saying "thats a flame" in public and sometimes that will provoke the other party causing them to make things worse. There is a easy fix to this... report the thread. Don't say a word.. just report. You can tell us how you feel about said post/thread in the report and we will take it from there, thats why the feature is there. So the next time you have an issue with a post/thread just report it! Don't call people out.

Next one my list is this new wave of public fighting I have been seeing on forums. This could be due to the lack of moderators and what not but we won't go there right now. Only thing I have to say to this is it HAS TO STOP! We can't have players calling each other out on and then proceeding to bash the hell out of each other. If you can't say anything nice and remain civil then we will have to resort to suspending players from the forums. Just be advised that if this does not stop soon we will take harsh actions to make sure it does.

Moving on to the topic of new moderators. The key word is new, they are still learning how things work on this side of the fence. During this process it can cause problems and that will lead to people becoming upset with the moderator. Now the first thing someone will do is call that moderator out and make a public scene. Trust me I understand that your upset but by making a public scene about things is not the best thing to do. Now yes I think that you all have the right to know what is going on when it comes to things like this but how things are going now it would be better if the issue is sorted out in private and THEN we will inform the public. So to sum this one up we have to stop with the moderator bashing. If you have a problem with another mod you can always send a PM to myself and I will make sure the right people are informed of what is going on and something is done OR if you ever have a problem with myself or you just want to go direct with someone above me please feel free to PM one of the admins.

Now to the name issue. This has always been a touchie subject and there has never been a set in stone answer to it other then if it violates the TOS we will change it. Now we do have some members of the community that got their names changed for other reasons... reasons that you might not know about and will not know about. Just keep in mind that you may not know everything when it comes to something like this. Unless you know the entire story it's best to just shut up and trust me, unless your Raijinn or another admin you won't know the entire story.

So now we come to the part where I tell you what should happen with the name change issue... well nothing until tomorrow because Raijinn is not around during the weekend. But I hope you all can trust me when I say that I want to get things worked out between all of us and I will not rest until that happens. All I ask is that you remain civil with eachother... think things through... use the proper tools... and obey the rules.

I'm open to questions, I would prefer that you PM them to me because I like to be more one-on-one when it comes to things like that.

Now I'm going to unlock this in hopes that we can work things out... start a new... and be nice to each other... because if we can't do that then your gonna see the bad side of Jury... and we don't want that!

Message edited by Jurymen on 05/06/2007 16:40:52.



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Amen brother!



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Message edited by Bayamos on 05/06/2007 16:51:18.



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Jurymen wrote:
First off Night Trace is correct
Always.

Jurymen wrote:
Moving on to the topic of new moderators. The key word is new, they are still learning how things work on this side of the fence. During this process it can cause problems and that will lead to people becoming upset with the moderator. Now the first thing someone will do is call that moderator out and make a public scene. Trust me I understand that your upset but by making a public scene about things is not the best thing to do. Now yes I think that you all have the right to know what is going on when it comes to things like this but how things are going now it would be better if the issue is sorted out in private and THEN we will inform the public. So to sum this one up we have to stop with the moderator bashing. If you have a problem with another mod you can always send a PM to myself and I will make sure the right people are informed of what is going on and something is done OR if you ever have a problem with myself or you just want to go direct with someone above me please feel free to PM one of the admins.


The first week, I was willing to say accept "he's new". It has progressed well past that point now. And I have in fact PM the appropriate people as you suggested. Can we get an official timetable when "new" stops being a crutch to lean on?


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Fickey wrote:
Amen brother!
lol...just....lol....



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ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:
Fickey wrote:
Amen brother!
lol...just....lol....

Totally.


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NightTrace wrote:
Jurymen wrote:
First off Night Trace is correct
Always.

Jurymen wrote:
Moving on to the topic of new moderators. The key word is new, they are still learning how things work on this side of the fence. During this process it can cause problems and that will lead to people becoming upset with the moderator. Now the first thing someone will do is call that moderator out and make a public scene. Trust me I understand that your upset but by making a public scene about things is not the best thing to do. Now yes I think that you all have the right to know what is going on when it comes to things like this but how things are going now it would be better if the issue is sorted out in private and THEN we will inform the public. So to sum this one up we have to stop with the moderator bashing. If you have a problem with another mod you can always send a PM to myself and I will make sure the right people are informed of what is going on and something is done OR if you ever have a problem with myself or you just want to go direct with someone above me please feel free to PM one of the admins.


The first week, I was willing to say accept "he's new". It has progressed well past that point now. And I have in fact PM the appropriate people as you suggested. Can we get an official timetable when "new" stops being a crutch to lean on?
I will get with Joel tomorrow and try to see where things stand on that matter. I will be in contact with you in regards to this.



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Ahh finally, a modicum of mature reflection brought to the proceedings.  Needless to say, we the undersigned will keep the thread flame-free in order to impress our opinions onto the unsuspecting masses.

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After looking over the first name change thread I think it's best that we leave things like they are now. When I talk to Joel I will make note of that thread.

 
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