MotorZ wrote:ThePigeonKing wrote:The Leo wrote:This might seem silly but what if the intruder is actually on some kind of qest set by the machines to become the new architect, who will create a flawless new matrix which won't need the One and won't have the 1% of people leaving...This is close to the theory I have; Intruder was set to be some sort of Architect in the next version of the Matrix and, because of what Neo did, the production of his version is obviously delayed. Maybe he's looking for Neo thinking he still has the "the one" code so he can reinsert him into the Source and everyone can move on to the next version. This isn't that bad of a theory, I found it interesting when the Intruder said, "I could have you deleted." It could just be that he could delete the Architect himself, but he could also mean "I'm more important than you, I can have people come delete you for insubordination." However, I would think it odd that a new Architect would know so little about the current Matrix.I can't remember if the Architect talks in 3rd person about creating the matrix in the 2rd movie or 1st person. If not himself then maybe he is actually just watching over everything...
ThePigeonKing wrote:The Leo wrote:This might seem silly but what if the intruder is actually on some kind of qest set by the machines to become the new architect, who will create a flawless new matrix which won't need the One and won't have the 1% of people leaving...This is close to the theory I have; Intruder was set to be some sort of Architect in the next version of the Matrix and, because of what Neo did, the production of his version is obviously delayed. Maybe he's looking for Neo thinking he still has the "the one" code so he can reinsert him into the Source and everyone can move on to the next version. This isn't that bad of a theory, I found it interesting when the Intruder said, "I could have you deleted." It could just be that he could delete the Architect himself, but he could also mean "I'm more important than you, I can have people come delete you for insubordination." However, I would think it odd that a new Architect would know so little about the current Matrix.
The Leo wrote:This might seem silly but what if the intruder is actually on some kind of qest set by the machines to become the new architect, who will create a flawless new matrix which won't need the One and won't have the 1% of people leaving...This is close to the theory I have; Intruder was set to be some sort of Architect in the next version of the Matrix and, because of what Neo did, the production of his version is obviously delayed. Maybe he's looking for Neo thinking he still has the "the one" code so he can reinsert him into the Source and everyone can move on to the next version.
This might seem silly but what if the intruder is actually on some kind of qest set by the machines to become the new architect, who will create a flawless new matrix which won't need the One and won't have the 1% of people leaving...
The Leo wrote:MotorZ wrote:ThePigeonKing wrote:The Leo wrote:This might seem silly but what if the intruder is actually on some kind of qest set by the machines to become the new architect, who will create a flawless new matrix which won't need the One and won't have the 1% of people leaving...This is close to the theory I have; Intruder was set to be some sort of Architect in the next version of the Matrix and, because of what Neo did, the production of his version is obviously delayed. Maybe he's looking for Neo thinking he still has the "the one" code so he can reinsert him into the Source and everyone can move on to the next version. This isn't that bad of a theory, I found it interesting when the Intruder said, "I could have you deleted." It could just be that he could delete the Architect himself, but he could also mean "I'm more important than you, I can have people come delete you for insubordination." However, I would think it odd that a new Architect would know so little about the current Matrix.I can't remember if the Architect talks in 3rd person about creating the matrix in the 2rd movie or 1st person. If not himself then maybe he is actually just watching over everything... Architect: Hello, Neo. Neo: Who are you? Architect: I am the Architect. I created the Matrix.
I think it's rather brilliant how information on the Intruder has been bled out slowly through so many different outlets that very few people have enough idea what's going on to draw a complete picture of the situation. Well done Rarebit.
I'd agree with Crimson that the Architect is not the sole governing body. It seems more like he is just more of a head of the Matrix, but outside the Matrix, he's just another piece of the puzzle.
I think alot of people just assumed that the Architect is the main man in charge of everything in the machine world. He only said that he built the matrix. The Architect is a man who would clearly state "I am the machines. I am the Source" or something slightly less grandiose.
I still think the Intruder, with his One like powers to control/delete programs on a whim, exiled or not, is tied strongly to the Machine Source
I doubt The Intruder is going to be the New Architect, because, he's human, and an Architect would have to be a Program.
I think the intruder is the personification of the source.
I suppose I'll chime in here with my thoughts, though most of what I think has been covered already.
The Architect did create the Matrix, and I don't think we'll be seeing him "replaced" in future iterations. I'm sure he may receive upgrades or assimilate new information from time to time, which is something he had to do to "understand" the need for new versions of The Matrix, even if he doesn't completely understand the humans in them. But, of course, then the question is who created the creator. I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume that the Intruder, being a freeborn human somehow able to jack into the Matrix, is part of the controlling force outside of The Matrix itself. Possibly a human / machine coalition governing the system for the time being while troubles outside of the system are resolved. It's easy enough to see how some human members of this coalition could get agitated with the situation and take a negative stance against the Machines and could look to disrupt things.. hence we have the Intruder. The ability to jack in may not be anything special at all, but simply just access to some sort of technology only available to the humans in this coalition.
But that still leaves the question of the Auditor's statements about the Intruder being from a higher version of The Matrix and thus incompatible with this one. Of course, that could simply have been a conclusion he made based on what he knew and saw as opposed to a conclusion based on the truth.
I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was never actually stated that the Intruder is from a higher version of the Matrix. They discovered that his code was a higher version than the one currently used in the Matrix. All that means is that the code the Intruder uses was programmed after the current version of the Matrix was programmed.His code could have been used for anything: a new Matrix, new Machine firmware, his jacking in station... whatever. It's just a newer version of the programming language the Machines use for their various applications.