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Jacked Out

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Just trying to find out what needs to be done to beat tengu lv 30 as a spy solo.  any advice would be much appreciated!  and if it *can't* be done solo, then please just say so SMILEY


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Never tried it myself but I know it can be done or at least people have told me they can solo Tengu as a spy.



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Because of how CR1's resistance/dmg works, at anything below 39/40 even sneak attacks will do so little damage to Tengu that soloing him is near impossible.

The only way I've ever heard of people soloing Tengu as a low-level spy in this system was with the Enhanced Consumable exploit.



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I misread the question.  As Bayamo noted you have to be at least -1 or max level to solo Tengu.  I soloed Tengu 2 levels below as kung-fu/karate but it required lots of health pills and wasnt worth it.



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Matching up with Tengu in his own tree seems like it would be quite a challenge. I use MA with my 25 and have no problem farming him with TB, HB and only an occasional HP.

I think you need execptional strategy and tactics because you can't build a better KT tree (stat and ability-wise) than he has with him being 5 levels higher than you.

 Mayhaps I will try this for the challenge....

 

 


Message edited by r3spon5e on 12/03/2006 15:49:51.


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Yes I've beat him a number of times as a solo lvl 25 mixed spy loadout.  I would do it with a limited number of pills, the big thing to watch for is the aerial takedown.  Also, I always seemed to do worse with a TB than I do without.

 How I would do it is activate disguise, drop kick to get in interlock, combination of deadly throw and leg sweep (you've got to pay relatively close attention to the timers on this, try and let one round of interlock pass between each special to maximize damage to IS cost ratio).  Do as much damage using power tactic as you can, when your health gets low, side roll escape, run out the door, targeted hyperjump to the first roof level, activate disguise once you're up there, sit regain IS\health to about halfway thru disguise timer.  Tengu is typically outside, I target hj down right behind him, drop kick again, rinse repeat. 

Patience is required.

Good Luck



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The confusion here, is that Yuki 15-25 has a Tengu, and Sakura 30-40 has a Tengu. Beating Yuki Tengu at 25 is fairly easy... beating Sakura Tengu at 30 is impossible SMILEY



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Bayamo wrote:
The confusion here, is that Yuki 15-25 has a Tengu, and Sakura 30-40 has a Tengu. Beating Yuki Tengu at 25 is fairly easy... beating Sakura Tengu at 30 is impossible SMILEY

Tbh its not impossible al they have to do use use kill code's. Saw a level 36 in Widows Morr just constanly using silver bullets on the gargoyle..... I smell a exploit in the scene of all of this. Constantly using kill codes over and over to kill the things....... that is way to easy.. NERF THE KILL CODE's.. =P Jk..





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Avalod wrote:
Bayamo wrote:
The confusion here, is that Yuki 15-25 has a Tengu, and Sakura 30-40 has a Tengu. Beating Yuki Tengu at 25 is fairly easy... beating Sakura Tengu at 30 is impossible SMILEY

Tbh its not impossible al they have to do use use kill code's. Saw a level 36 in Widows Morr just constanly using silver bullets on the gargoyle..... I smell a exploit in the scene of all of this. Constantly using kill codes over and over to kill the things....... that is way to easy.. NERF THE KILL CODE's.. =P Jk..



Ah I see the confusion.  It seemed like the op was asking about the lvl 30 Tengu in Yuki rather than the lvl 50 in sakura.  I agree 100% it would be next to impossible for a lvl 30 player to take down a lvl 50 npc.

As far as taking down lvl 30 tengu solo as a lvl 25 spy, "easy" wouldn't be my first choice of a word to describe the process.  I'd be more inclined to say it's relatively difficult, but not impossible.  I couldn't manage to accomplish it as a lvl 24. 

 On the consumable weapons having a significant effect on the various construct bosses, to the best of my knowledge that's by design.  The garg in ashencourte surrounded by vampires is susceptible to wooden stakes and the one in the moor surrounded by lupines is impacted by silver bullets.  I haven't tested it with tengu, I don't think he shares that weakness.



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Huslah wrote:
Avalod wrote:
Bayamo wrote:
The confusion here, is that Yuki 15-25 has a Tengu, and Sakura 30-40 has a Tengu. Beating Yuki Tengu at 25 is fairly easy... beating Sakura Tengu at 30 is impossible SMILEY

Tbh its not impossible al they have to do use use kill code's. Saw a level 36 in Widows Morr just constanly using silver bullets on the gargoyle..... I smell a exploit in the scene of all of this. Constantly using kill codes over and over to kill the things....... that is way to easy.. NERF THE KILL CODE's.. =P Jk..



Ah I see the confusion.  It seemed like the op was asking about the lvl 30 Tengu in Yuki rather than the lvl 50 in sakura.  I agree 100% it would be next to impossible for a lvl 30 player to take down a lvl 50 npc.

As far as taking down lvl 30 tengu solo as a lvl 25 spy, "easy" wouldn't be my first choice of a word to describe the process.  I'd be more inclined to say it's relatively difficult, but not impossible.  I couldn't manage to accomplish it as a lvl 24. 

 On the consumable weapons having a significant effect on the various construct bosses, to the best of my knowledge that's by design.  The garg in ashencourte surrounded by vampires is susceptible to wooden stakes and the one in the moor surrounded by lupines is impacted by silver bullets.  I haven't tested it with tengu, I don't think he shares that weakness.

Tengu's bane is that holy water stuff. was there not to lnog ago seeing someone just use those to kill the thing.... didnt think to check the players level due to i thoguht it was just a normal way of killing him.



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Tengu in Sakura is level 45.



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Renesis13B wrote:
Tengu in Sakura is level 45.

That makes more sense, I thought 50 was a little high.  I haven't been in there for awhile and pulled what I believed to be his level off mxoresource.  They've got sakura Tengu at 50 and moor garg at 55. 

Thanks for the holy water tip.  I'll take a shot at that.

http://www.mxoresource.com/p/constructs/



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Holy water works well i guess.  Does around 75-80 dmg which would take a very long time to kill Tengu.



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Renesis13B wrote:
Holy water works well i guess.  Does around 75-80 dmg which would take a very long time to kill Tengu.


Enhanced holy water..... even quicker

 

 *goes to code*

 

 


fol


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You can beat him as an MA
 
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