GeForce 8800GTX - Major indoor lag!?

**Mindsweep**

Does anyone have the black screen problem with Vista? I'm not sure if it's here it should posted or under the Graphic problems? The black screen comes when i am trying to take a screen puctire using F12 or F11.

**XXT**

Mindsweep wrote:

Does anyone have the black screen problem with Vista? I'm not sure if it's here it should posted or under the Graphic problems? The black screen comes when i am trying to take a screen puctire using F12 or F11.

You can't take screens with Vista, which is why they show up as black.

**Kybutra**

XXT wrote:

Mindsweep wrote:
Does anyone have the black screen problem with Vista? I'm not sure if it's here it should posted or under the Graphic problems? The black screen comes when i am trying to take a screen puctire using F12 or F11.

You can't take screens with Vista, which is why they show up as black.

You just cant have AA enabled for the screenshot, atleast that is how it works for me.

Chainer

I think what the developer community is -not- realizing is that the player community is issuing an ultimatum. In which we pay for a game, and not being able to access parts of the game because of a known hardware glitch. A glitch mind you, which the Developer community knows of but has taken no effort to bring to more light to the entire community of MxO.

On that note, being that many people (Veterans of the game as well) have issued ultimatums, and so many people are dropping from the game; I find it rather ridiculous that they are working on luggables, instead of addressing the playability of the game in all aspects of all hardware. And being that this problem has been known for so long, It is rather humorous that no real action has been taken to even "attempt" to quell people or their hardware's issues.

So, being that 9mmFu said that they do work with Nvid, and Microsoft together for these kinds of problems... A driver update should not be an issue. Considering Most of Nvid's work is really only writing the script for the drivers, and Microsoft makes the links from hardware to soft possible on a windows system.

So why? Why has neither SoE or Nvid come out and said "Yes, this is a top priority issue". Well, A few logical reasons apply to why a business would not do so.

They actually dont have a solution, but want people to think they do.
They as well know that the player community is dropping like flys, and they see no reason to invest time or money to improve something they see as a total loss at this point. (which is a VERY viable solution for any business)
That one company or the other (SoE or Nvid) is not going to be giving or receiving a "Kick-Back" for the service. Meaning that no money or other service will change hands. And this again stems from number 2.

So there, You have my two cents, and I do hope Nvid or Our own dev team will care to fix this asap. Or they face losing more people to a game that has been totally surpassed in everything but the emote system. Thumbs up for our emote system...

**Mindsweep**

Kybutra wrote:

XXT wrote:
Mindsweep wrote:
Does anyone have the black screen problem with Vista? I'm not sure if it's here it should posted or under the Graphic problems? The black screen comes when i am trying to take a screen puctire using F12 or F11.

You can't take screens with Vista, which is why they show up as black.

You just cant have AA enabled for the screenshot, atleast that is how it works for me.

I found the solution...thanks!

**Namroc**

I'd like to know where we are up to with this issue. Those of us with a Geforce 8 series card are screwed because either we use Windows XP and stay in open areas when we play MXO or use Vista and make do with all the graphical glitches.

Can we get some feedback from the devs on whether this issue of unbearable indoor lag (and it is unbearable) is being looked into and and how high it is on the priority list. Given the fact that MXO becomes prettty much unplayable for those with a Geforce 8 series card I would hope that it would be at the top or at least near to the top of the priority bug list.

I'm not asking for an ETA as I know these are not given out just some assurances that the issue is being looked into, after all the problem first got reported way back in April and it's now October

Chainer

I contacted Nvidea directly. The problem isnt with their product they say (but what company wouldnt say that?). They claim the problem is with SOE-MxO and needs to be addressed via the game side. So...

Im going to call SOE right now and post any relevant conversation that occurs for the benifit of all of us with this GREAT card that is actually really good.

TFC2 runs like a gem... what about a now 4(?) year old game?

Chainer

Im beginning to wonder... Is vista worth the change?

**art**

Chainer wrote:

Im beginning to wonder... Is vista worth the change?

On the MxO side, yes it is worth it. No more indoor lag... and you get used to the graphic glitches.

From all other perspectives... meh..

-art

**Croesis**

I've just upgraded to the latest Beta Drivers from nVidia (163.75) and read their update notes. Not ones did it mention anything about MxO. It seems that every other game online or not that has an issue with any nVidia cards (not just the 8000 series) is listed with notes saying whether it is a hardware problem with the cards or software issue with drivers or the games code itself. Despite many people asking them and telling them that there is an issue MxO is not listed in it whatsoever. Does this mean that SoE hasn't contacted nVidia about the issue, because if they have, nVidia isn't taking them very seriously at all.

Oh by the way, by all means try out the latest drivers for your own cards, but I doubt they would have fixed the issue...

**Warboy**

Croesus wrote:

I've just upgraded to the latest Beta Drivers from nVidia (163.75) and read their update notes. Not ones did it mention anything about MxO. It seems that every other game online or not that has an issue with any nVidia cards (not just the 8000 series) is listed with notes saying whether it is a hardware problem with the cards or software issue with drivers or the games code itself. Despite many people asking them and telling them that there is an issue MxO is not listed in it whatsoever. Does this mean that SoE hasn't contacted nVidia about the issue, because if they have, nVidia isn't taking them very seriously at all.

Oh by the way, by all means try out the latest drivers for your own cards, but I doubt they would have fixed the issue...

This is somewhat untrue, the newest true beta drivers are the 167.26 drivers that are for the 8800GT, and boosts overall GPU performance by almost 10% on the 8 Series cards. I'm testing it right now on my new setup over at xtremesystems.org

**Croesis** · 10/26/2007 08:46:55

Really?! My apologies, but do the update notes mention MxO? If not the point I was trying to make still stands....

Heh, not wanting to be pedantic but I just checked, the latest Beta drivers are actually 169.01! Released today!

Chainer · 10/26/2007 08:47:57

art wrote:

Chainer wrote:
Im beginning to wonder... Is vista worth the change?

On the MxO side, yes it is worth it. No more indoor lag... and you get used to the graphic glitches.
From all other perspectives... meh..
-art

what about the "logging of pirated" software? not that I have any...

STOP MAKING ME EDIT MY POSTS!

Time to try a new driver I suppose!

Chainer · 10/26/2007 09:14:25

the new driver doesnt help squat...

oh well...

I think this is funny...
http://help.station.sony.com/cgi-bi...p?p_faqid=16225
It says the 8xxx series IS Supported.

Now, the only thing i see this as, is a funny *CENSORED* joke. GOOD ONE SOE!

**Darkhawk** · 10/26/2007 17:02:14

Well - if SOE has posted this falsehood - well, the game does technicaly woooork with the card - but not well. Sooo, that may be a sticky issue in court.

But - with all this evidence and documentation - we may have grounds for a lawsuit. Anyone got any lawyer friends that would like to start writing some letters?

Only thing about that is - be careful what you wish for. You may end up hurting those you love the most.

*shakes head and sighs heavily* :/

I honestly don't know what can be done anymore? I've already done enough of my sceaming and yelling. I miss Beachhead very, very, much. And many others affected by this.

#9mmfu there is a useless jerk.

Don't know what to say anymore. Sept that with newer cards and more advancement - this game is going to fall further behind without help or attention.