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make us able to use swordsplz sony!IF U WANT THIS TO HAPPEN REPLY YES if not dont reply.
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Asamodai wrote:





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Remember the first Matrix movie - "Dodge this...BOOM!"

Technically she didnt kill him, just the guy he took over, and it really wasnt hand-to-hand combat, but who takes a sword to a gun fight anyway?... :smileywink:


Message Edited by RedLink128 on 05.31.2006 03:13 PM




Hardcore people who like to look incredibly cool while they kill people.

I'd rather up my chances to live through a battle then look "incredibly cool" while killing people... :smileytongue:


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Who takes hand-to-hand combat to a gun fight, if I may ask?? You have much better chances with a melee weapon than without.

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RedLink128 wrote:






Asamodai wrote:






RedLink128 wrote:



Remember the first Matrix movie - "Dodge this...BOOM!"

Technically she didnt kill him, just the guy he took over, and it really wasnt hand-to-hand combat, but who takes a sword to a gun fight anyway?... :smileywink:


Message Edited by RedLink128 on 05.31.2006 03:13 PM





Hardcore people who like to look incredibly cool while they kill people.



I'd rather up my chances to live through a battle then look "incredibly cool" while killing people... :smileytongue:





Oh come on.  You must've seen at least one action film.  The guy with the cool sword always beats the entire army of guys with guns.  It's just the way the fun ficticious worlds such as our own work.



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yea its a no on swords "MORFEOSS AND NEO USED SWORDZ I WANNA BE LEIK THEM!!!!!!!!!" nah it ruins the matrix feel...cool slick futuristic costumes nice jet black gunz...and a rusty ancient japanese sword...



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*CENSORED* doulbe post FTL

Message Edited by Erace on 06.04.2006 08:24 AM
Message edited by Erace on 06/04/2006 07:24:46.




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Erace wrote:

 

yea its a no on swords "MORFEOSS AND NEO USED SWORDZ I WANNA BE LEIK THEM!!!!!!!!!" nah it ruins the matrix feel...cool slick futuristic costumes nice jet black gunz...and a rusty ancient japanese sword...

 

OK, that... that cries for a devastating response.

Has the usage of medieval weapons ruined the Matrix feel in "Reloaded"? Have the vamps and dobermen in "Enter the Matrix" aswell as the usage of wooden stakes and crossbows ruined the Matrix feel in "Enter the Matrix? At all, has the appearence of a medieval castle damaged the Matrix feel?

Do the Lupines, Blood Drunks, Succubi, Nightmares, angels or trasparent green ghosts aswell as the usage of wooden stakes, holy water and silver bullets ruin the Matrix feel in MxO? Do Yuki/Sakura or Ashencourte/Widow's Moor ruin the Matrix feel??

Well, why for all the world would swords or other melee weapons in MxO ruin the bleeping Matrix feel???

 

Medieval and mythological elements are, by now, a constant aspect of the Matrix concept aswell as the Matrix look. Technically, none of these exceed the science-fiction principal, but these Fantasy elements provide a great contrast between the cool SF-look of the Matrix. They have added depth, variety and originality to several other parts of the franchise, and they still add depth to MxO. Swords would fit perfectly here.

And to be honest, WTH is that "MOFEUSS AND THE UBER ONE USED SWORS I WANNA TO!!!!" persiflage? Swordfight was a little, but impressive aspect of the Matrix style in the movies, "The Final Flight" and EtM (and now PoN). MxO is based on the Matrix franchise, so why shouldn't it reproduce its different style aspects? "T3H ONE USED SWORZ I WANT IETHEr" is a very distorted, rude, primitive and offensive way of echoing this logical principal.


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think about it maybe for a contruct sure but for rp purposes imo the movies were based on a futuristic earth where people were enslaved and where people could mechanially enter a computerized universe to try and get back the real world to the way it is....i mean Neo and Morpheos and Niobe were all ICONS of the picture not random redpills that just happen to be there thats why they got a privilage to use a sword or a special recognizable item YOU and everyone else in game is just some ordinary repill working for their org no one has uber neo powers no one is a person who trained neo and no one is will smiths wife.....NOW when you say about lupines blood drinkers and all that the only time we see those are in CONSTRUCTS OR MISSIONS ok contrcuts is one thing sure MAYBE we could add a sword in a constrct..for the vampire constructs like widows more ok thats that but for PVP purposes for me no i dont think that swords would be a good idea if you want to get all serious about it for a real life scenario? ok


 


someone has a sword...someone has a sub machine gun...there no super uber anime...block all the bullets with the sword no..you will die now for the matrix


 


someone has a sword...someone has a sub machine gun...sword weilder takes two steps..and get lead drained in his face..guess the sword didnt work too well...


 


what i can see for melee weapons in game is...nothing really i dont see anything really working that wont ruin the feel imo...no disrespect im not putting down anyones opinon




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think about it maybe for a contruct sure but for rp purposes imo the movies were based on a futuristic earth where people were enslaved and where people could mechanially enter a computerized universe to try and get back the real world to the way it is.... Well, the futuristic part is limited to the Real, and is partially captured in the 10/01 constructs. In the Matrix itself, I fail to see anything futuristic. It's unreal, it's "noir" and and it's "cool" and stylish, but hardly futuristic. (Well, maybe a little bit... depends on how you perceive "futuristic"). That was one of the things that made already the first movie special, this contrast between two entirely different styles and looks. "Reloaded" extended this style with a portion of medieval/Fantasy elements, that still fit into the "computerized universe" concept, but creates a great contrast to the customary SF and Cyberpunk atmosphere -- which I think is a great thing because it mixes and contrasts different, converse styles.


i mean Neo and Morpheos and Niobe were all ICONS of the picture not random redpills that just happen to be there thats why they got a privilage to use a sword or a special recognizable item YOU and everyone else in game is just some ordinary repill working for their org no one has uber neo powers no one is a person who trained neo and no one is will smiths wife..... Sorry if I don't accept this point. First of all, there weren't so many redpills operating inside the Matrix at all back then, but that's off-topic... The One's abilities were unique to him alone, but things like sword usage is something you can possibly program into every redpill's head. After all, we still can hyper-jump, it's not something attached to the uber Morpheus or Trinity. We are ordinary redpills, yet we can use Martial Arts... sorry, that argument doesn't deliver for me.


NOW when you say about lupines blood drinkers and all that the only time we see those are in CONSTRUCTS OR MISSIONS ok contrcuts is one thing sure MAYBE we could add a sword in a constrct..for the vampire constructs like widows more ok thats that but for PVP purposes for me no i dont think that swords would be a good idea if you want to get all serious about it for a real life scenario? ok


That's a fair point. Above, I said the medieval Fantasy elements extended the Matrix style. Of course, it's more complex than that: just like malfunctioning programs and Exiles, these elements are foreign and out of place in the Matrix. That's why the mentioned contrast makes sense, because the Chateau is not the Matrix and vampires/lupines don't run around the city. When you enter the Chateau in EtM, it's like a different world. The archives are so different from the city because they are remains of older Matrix instances. Although, of course, there are still Disciples in Manssen Park, and the missions still take place in the city.


However, I haven't actually even thought about that before. Just making swords an ordinary fighting style would take away the feel of foreignness from them. Limiting them to only constructs would be, again, a bit too little. Since it's not gonna happen anyway, I'll let from suggesting different possibilities and compromisses here.


someone has a sword...someone has a sub machine gun...there no super uber anime...block all the bullets with the sword no..you will die now for the matrix


someone has a sword...someone has a sub machine gun...sword weilder takes two steps..and get lead drained in his face..guess the sword didnt work too well...


Lolz, the same happens to the Martial Artists right now when they fight against armed opponents. Following your point, MAs couldn't stand a second against Gunmen. In real life, your chances to win a fight with a melee weapon is even higher than unarmed.


what i can see for melee weapons in game is...nothing really i dont see anything really working that wont ruin the feel imo...no disrespect im not putting down anyones opinon


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SWORDS!

 


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No no... you misunderstood. He wants more S words in MxO.




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Shoot! Soz, man, I'm so silly. See, saying Swords sorta sounds like Swords and not S-words.


 


I'd rather have tacos and flasks in-game first. Then we could talk about the Melee Weapon Expansion Pack. *cough*




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This thread isn't shut yet because...? lol




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shaggy720 wrote:

This thread isn't shut yet because...? lol





Because you just revived it? :smileymad:

 

Swords might work in a construct... remember "Program"?
 
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