The complete story line?...

**Rarebit**

MotorZ wrote:

Nice to see a storyline summary from a dev. Should put it up on the main website as "the story so far" or something.

edit: noticed you had longer summaries for stuff you were involved in

Notice the biggest one is 7.1, which is where I brought in the last of the original storyline from Paul (River Seraph, and that last code vial), and then had to start generating enough of my own story elements to continue things forward.

**Sorter** · 08/05/2008 16:24:24

I think it is important to have a story summary of some sort on the Wiki. This was extremely helpful both:

1. When I was out of game for an extended period of time (this is Villemar btw with some time left on a 2nd storage account, hehe).

2. I refered the wiki site to a couple friends who tried MxO for the first time so that they could get brought up to speed on the storyline rather quickly and not be completely confused.

I don't know why this Ookami Arsehead has this personal jihad against this game, but he does, and he's obsessive about deleting all story summaries like Rain Man. "Yeah. Definately gotta delete the story summary. Yeah. Yeah. Wopner at 4:30."

Seriously though. Is this not a story-based MMO? I don't know about other MMO's but isn't this the main and unique feature of this game? Doesn't it stand to reason then that this main aspect of the game is featured as any other wiki article would? As long as it is concise and clear and not too rambly. The old wiki summarry was great (but that jerk deleted it ages ago)> And Rarebit your summary is great, plus being from you it has gravitas!

I dunno, can we get this on wiki? How do you deal with autistic trolls hellbent on deleting everything?

**MatrixRefugee** · 08/05/2008 19:32:48

I don't think the person who keeps deleting the summary is autistic, I think they're just a jerk who has an anti-MxO chip the size of the Rock of Gibraltar on their shoulder. A real autistic person would be giving an extreeeeemely detailed summary, complete with verbatim dialouge quotes, which would require a whole seperate page in itself.

**cloudwolf**

Just referenced Rare's post in the wiki entry. Now all we can do is wait and see.

**Sorter**

cloudwolf wrote:

Just referenced Rare's post in the wiki entry. Now all we can do is wait and see.

In order to be effective I think it would be better if Rare or Virrago moved the official story summary as a main entry on DN1, under the title, "Cumulative Storyline Summary Chapters 1-10" or something. It would give it the official patina. Plus, what a perfect time, after the 10th chapter! How perfectly...symmetrical.

I'd hold off Cloud on linking this thread (or de-link it for the time being), you know that arse is definately gonna read the fact that we're on to him, calling him out bigtime, and he'll definately escalate the edit war now. There's no doubt about that now. Mind if we hold off?

Oh and MatrixRefugee, I was kidding, but now that you've shined a light on it, it probably isn't something I should have joked about.

Croesis · 08/06/2008 08:35:08

Sorter wrote:

I'd hold off Cloud on linking this thread (or de-link it for the time being), you know that arse is definately gonna read the fact that we're on to him, calling him out bigtime, and he'll definately escalate the edit war now. There's no doubt about that now. Mind if we hold off?

That Ookami guy cites the rules a lot and supposedly sticks to them, if he escalates the edit 'war' just because of this thread then he won't be doing it because of the rules but for personal reasons, in which case the Wikipolice will have to strike him from their register.

**cloudwolf** · 08/06/2008 07:48:16

It aint my fault people have started calling out the Ookami guy here and I'm certainly not gonna pull the reference because he might take some things personally (besides, it'd all be stored in the edit history).

The talk page asked for a short paragraph that summarised the story to date (which is impossible given how much story there is) so instead I made a paragraph references a longer summary. I don't see a problem with that.

**ZippyTheSquirrel** · 08/06/2008 08:40:23

I don't understand what's so difficult about making a wikiarticle specifically for the MxO storyline so that you can be as detailed as you want.

Edit: And for those of you calling out Ookami here, you ought to read more into the debate. They became more reasonable where it winded down, and calling them out now would be more counter-productive than helpful.

"A separate article? That would just make this problem worse. We do not need summaries to be that thorough. In fact we never have, for any game/movie/etc. The best thing to do would be to reinclude it in this article while putting some actual effort into it.

So far all that has happened in the past are shoddy attempts to copy/paste the entire uncited out of control fluff back in here. All it needs is to be thoughtfully trimmed down, and sources included, those sources could well be fansites given the nature of our problem but it needs to be something. Making it into its own article will just blow the whole problem up to a level that is even more out of control than it was before. Honestly all a chapter needs is a few sentences of what happened, not much more.

We don't need this advanced play by play of every last detail that occurred, just simply who the major parties were, what they tried to do, and what happened as a result. That's really it. In most cases that's 3 maybe 4 sentences per chapter. We can easily leave more detailed summation up to the actual fan sites.

I don't see why people think I'm this evil f*** who's out to destroy the game's article. In fact while I played it I liked it and I would still play it if I felt it prudent to pay for two such games at one time. If anything the fact that I want the article to fall within policy and look as it should indicates that I do appreciate the game and I want it to be done correctly." - Oni Ookmai Alfador

**Sorter**

I just think it would be nice if the official cumulative story summary could get its own headline post on DN1. Not merely to dissuade our wiki friend, but just for easier reference and clarity.

**MatrixRefugee**

Sorter wrote:

Oh and MatrixRefugee, I was kidding, but now that you've shined a light on it, it probably isn't something I should have joked about.

No harm no foul: I'll admit, I had a bit of an autistic moment when I made that post (which I later edited so I didn't sound so nasty): folks like me sometimes have a hard time with kidding around, since we have difficulties processing social cues anyway, so something out of the norm can grind our gears. Sorry if I came off too strong in the original version of my reply: I'll try and wait till my brain is a more operational mode before posting next time.

**Sabus**

Sorter wrote:

In order to be effective I think it would be better if Rare or Virrago moved the official story summary as a main entry on DN1, under the title, "Cumulative Storyline Summary Chapters 1-10" or something. It would give it the official patina. Plus, what a perfect time, after the 10th chapter! How perfectly...symmetrical.

I agree. Im my option, if I was a normal person who really doesn't know that much about Wiki (even though I don't know if there is anyone that doesn't know about Wiki nowadays) and wanted to know the history of the matrix, what a better site to go to than the game's offical one. And what better luck would there be, clearly on the main page, a link to a complete outline of everything that's happened so far.

**MatrixRefugee**

Vinia wrote:

Sorter wrote:
I'd hold off Cloud on linking this thread (or de-link it for the time being), you know that arse is definately gonna read the fact that we're on to him, calling him out bigtime, and he'll definately escalate the edit war now. There's no doubt about that now. Mind if we hold off?
That Ookami guy cites the rules a lot and supposedly sticks to them, if he escalates the edit 'war' just because of this thread then he won't be doing it because of the rules but for personal reasons, in which case the Wikipolice will have to strike him from their register.

I believe the proper term for someone of this ilk is "rules lawyer".

**Sorter**

MatrixRefugee wrote:

Vinia wrote:
Sorter wrote:
I'd hold off Cloud on linking this thread (or de-link it for the time being), you know that arse is definately gonna read the fact that we're on to him, calling him out bigtime, and he'll definately escalate the edit war now. There's no doubt about that now. Mind if we hold off?
That Ookami guy cites the rules a lot and supposedly sticks to them, if he escalates the edit 'war' just because of this thread then he won't be doing it because of the rules but for personal reasons, in which case the Wikipolice will have to strike him from their register.

I believe the proper term for someone of this ilk is "rules lawyer".

I think he's using rules lawyering as means to express his personal vendetta against the game. But enough about one guy. If we could get an official cumulative story summary on DN1 then fully quote it on the main site then I'd be personally willing to monitor it and re-upload it every time he or anyone else takes the axe to it.

**Sorter**

Sabus wrote:

Sorter wrote:
In order to be effective I think it would be better if Rare or Virrago moved the official story summary as a main entry on DN1, under the title, "Cumulative Storyline Summary Chapters 1-10" or something. It would give it the official patina. Plus, what a perfect time, after the 10th chapter! How perfectly...symmetrical.

I agree. Im my option, if I was a normal person who really doesn't know that much about Wiki (even though I don't know if there is anyone that doesn't know about Wiki nowadays) and wanted to know the history of the matrix, what a better site to go to than the game's offical one. And what better luck would there be, clearly on the main page, a link to a complete outline of everything that's happened so far.

Thank you. In fact, I am a bit of a nub when it comes to the mechanics of Wiki. I'm always looking up random esoteric information to get quick thumbnail ideas of different things and its worked fine thus far. The MxO entry has the most flagging and dissention I've seen thus far, but maybe I've just had good luck thus far.

Also I thought of another good reason for an official summary to go up. Heaven forbid, one day this game will end, and I or others may want to go back and reference the storyline. Especially if the W bros revisit the series in ten years or something.

**Sabus**

Sorter wrote:

Sabus wrote:
Sorter wrote:
In order to be effective I think it would be better if Rare or Virrago moved the official story summary as a main entry on DN1, under the title, "Cumulative Storyline Summary Chapters 1-10" or something. It would give it the official patina. Plus, what a perfect time, after the 10th chapter! How perfectly...symmetrical.

I agree. Im my option, if I was a normal person who really doesn't know that much about Wiki (even though I don't know if there is anyone that doesn't know about Wiki nowadays) and wanted to know the history of the matrix, what a better site to go to than the game's offical one. And what better luck would there be, clearly on the main page, a link to a complete outline of everything that's happened so far.

Thank you. In fact, I am a bit of a nub when it comes to the mechanics of Wiki. I'm always looking up random esoteric information to get quick thumbnail ideas of different things and its worked fine thus far. The MxO entry has the most flagging and dissention I've seen thus far, but maybe I've just had good luck thus far.
Also I thought of another good reason for an official summary to go up. Heaven forbid, one day this game will end, and I or others may want to go back and reference the storyline. Especially if the W bros revisit the series in ten years or something.

Lol The Matrix 4.... Hmmm... It's probably suck but i'd be the first person in the usa to buy a ticket. It would be kinda cool to see the assassin, the general, and that code dude that i don't know his name in a movie. But without neo, trinity, and morpheus- or at least after the first 15 minutes lol- it would be a weird matrix.