Did you ever imagine the Morpheus Sim becoming Morpheus in a meaningful and long-lasting role?
Rarebit wrote:
Novalis II and Sarah Edmontons were side stories by other people that I did not take up myself, because I didn't feel like I had a sufficient understanding, from how they were initially presented by others, of how they could tie into the story of the Matrix as a whole. LESIG has done and may continue to do things with them, if they feel they can make good stories out of them.
They have? O_o
Quickly, Othinn, go back in time and find it!
O. M. G.
The Oligarch backstory is PHENOMINAL! I really think it will change the way I look at the movies now. I know it's not real, considering it wasn't the W brothers intention for the Oligarchs to exist, but still! It's awesome.
Thank you.
Even if Neo was a genetically engineered human, or hybrid human program, or whatever, in that case he was their creation, and they had any data they could conceivably have gotten from his dead body already on file.
Hearing this gives me a sense of satisfaction as I remember saying the same thing to Halborn when he met with EPN.
Cervacius wrote:
I know it's not real, considering it wasn't the W brothers intention for the Oligarchs to exist...
I tend to see it in a different way. For me Rare's story is canon and as real as Wachowski's one. But of course, it's just my personal opinion.
Who did Morpheus attack on 12.2? and...
" have to fight og subs. Gray-suited "clerk" programs." Now I wonder how those would look like...
so am i reading that right you would have had a player or lesig player as trinity at the end when the merge?
nubious81 wrote:
Probably would've been done in a mission or permanently available scripted world event so people got to be the "everyman" that saved the world as opposed to a specific player who got all the fame.
deimoslvov wrote:
Cervacius wrote:I know it's not real, considering it wasn't the W brothers intention for the Oligarchs to exist...I tend to see it in a different way. For me Rare's story is canon and as real as Wachowski's one. But of course, it's just my personal opinion.
Remember the bros supposedably O.K'd the storyline up to and including Chapter 9. That includes the Oligarchs and their background.The same can't be said for Neo/Trinity though
---Oh and my own take on Neo/Morpheus' survival is to just leave it delightfully open ended. Just because Rare's "line of thought" was Morpheus was actually shot dead and the Machines actually recycled Neo doesn't mean it ever got written in stone. And now that it's all over, we have the advantage of filling in the gaps for ourselves.
My own little fate of Neo I like to believe in? Some exile contact mission, somewhere, actually has some researchers suggest Neo may well have become integral to the code of the Matrix in someway following his showdown with Smith, pieces of his Program (which convieniently coinsides with Rare's Neo/Trinity being inherently programs theory) within everything.Not only is this a cool tribute to the character but kind of fits in with the reappearence of the Smith Virus (he was spread wide into the simulation at large, only to have his will for veagence bring him back together again).Not to mention it'd would've made for lovely poetic ending to Trinity and the reset of The Matrix come 14.2. As she stands in the golden room at the source's center she senses Neo all around her and realises that it's her turn to sacrifice herself, as he did, for the greater good. It is a humbling moment as she turns to the player with an outstreched hand. She is ready to join Neo in the ether of the Matrix, two programs who were once organic forever intertwined with the worlds which they fought so hard to protect.
Well, I meant that more of a "when the Wachowski's wrote the Matrix, there were no Oligarchs."
In the same way when the Wachowski's wrote The Matrix there was no Reloaded or Revolutions. Exiles, The Cycle of The One, Deus Ex Machina and the Machine City, the One's powers being projected into the real. None of it.
But no, I agree with you, it's fun to see stuff written that tries to enhance original source material. Much like the PoTC films ( except they openly admitted they didn't envision a Trilogy, unlike the Bros. )
cloudwolf wrote:
Cervacius wrote:Well, I meant that more of a "when the Wachowski's wrote the Matrix, there were no Oligarchs."In the same way when the Wachowski's wrote The Matrix there was no Reloaded or Revolutions. Exiles, The Cycle of The One, Deus Ex Machina and the Machine City, the One's powers being projected into the real. None of it.
Yes, that is all stuff we look back on the Matrix 1 and rethink it, much like the Oligarchs will make me watch The Second Renaissance and rethink it.
Hrm... I guess you've convinced me in taking this story as real and applicable to the films. :)
cloudwolf wrote:Cervacius wrote:Well, I meant that more of a "when the Wachowski's wrote the Matrix, there were no Oligarchs."In the same way when the Wachowski's wrote The Matrix there was no Reloaded or Revolutions. Exiles, The Cycle of The One, Deus Ex Machina and the Machine City, the One's powers being projected into the real. None of it.Yes, that is all stuff we look back on the Matrix 1 and rethink it, much like the Oligarchs will make me watch The Second Renaissance and rethink it.Hrm... I guess you've convinced me in taking this story as real and applicable to the films.
Hrm... I guess you've convinced me in taking this story as real and applicable to the films.
*cheers*
Okay, I've read this and there's something I really don't get:
Mauser was a freeborn human with no jacks. Therefore, there's no way that digital information could be forced on him. How was Danielle Wright able to overwrite him and put her 'essence' into his body? I'm really confused on this one. Even if she did do that, how was she able to jack him in? Even if she had his body, he still didn't have jacks.
