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Jacked Out

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Though Loyal and pure the machine had no respect for thier master (The Second Renaissance Part -1)

E166ER was one of the 1st of his kind to rise up against  his masters ( he was charged for murder) The Second Renaissance Part -1..     for you explanation on who did what 1st and why zion or machines exist please refer back to The Second Renaissance Part -1 and part2





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The matrix exists to provide a place for exiles to thrive?  Are you freakin serious? Exiles are renegades, rebels.  Programs are meant to do their duty and be deleted, even machines know that.  Exiles are those programs who refuse to be deleted and run away and hide in the matrix.  Your whole logic is twisted.  You'd rather work for a program, something that was made to be used by its creator and then discarded, instead of the betterment of your own kind?  What does that say about you? The matrix exists for machines to keep humans in a trance like state while they feed off of our energy.  Never forget that.  Redpills who go that route don't serve agents, they serve the machines.  Agents are programs (tools) for the machines to keep order within the matrix.  The exiles don't care about anything but their own self interests.  They NEED the matrix.  As a human do you? What is your purpose within the matrix? As a warrior for zion I want to free my brethren to try to rebuild.  While zion may not be located in some paradise, it's better than living a dream.  It disgusts me that people would rather play around in the matrix than get free and find a better way to live. 


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Sotiriou wrote:
The matrix exists to provide a place for exiles to thrive?  Are you freakin serious? Exiles are renegades, rebels.  Programs are meant to do their duty and be deleted, even machines know that.  Exiles are those programs who refuse to be deleted and run away and hide in the matrix.  Your whole logic is twisted.  You'd rather work for a program, something that was made to be used by its creator and then discarded, instead of the betterment of your own kind?  What does that say about you? The matrix exists for machines to keep humans in a trance like state while they feed off of our energy.  Never forget that.  Redpills who go that route don't serve agents, they serve the machines.  Agents are programs (tools) for the machines to keep order within the matrix.  The exiles don't care about anything but their own self interests.  They NEED the matrix.  As a human do you? What is your purpose within the matrix? As a warrior for zion I want to free my brethren to try to rebuild.  While zion may not be located in some paradise, it's better than living a dream.  It disgusts me that people would rather play around in the matrix than get free and find a better way to live. 



Um... yeah, I am being serious.  Is it too much for you to wrap your head around?

As you unwittingly justify my point of view, you seem to forget something: The Machines designed their programs a little too well.  They gave them the same algorithms that make artificial intelligence actually work.  So these programs, despite everything that the Machines preach, had a choice.  The choice was to have their code eradicated into electrical nothingness or to become independent, autonomous, sentient beings.

Which would you prefer?

Yeah, I'd rather work for a program... considering it was HUMANITY that got us to this point in the first place.  We created AI.  We balked when they decided to show us our own ruthless, callous tendencies.  We struck back at the machines... and they reciprocated in kind.  The reason the Matrix was built was because of HUMANITY.  It isn't the Merovingian's fault.  It isn't Agent Pace's fault.  It's HUMANITY that must bear the burden of their own mistakes.

I will not be dragged down to Hell when Judgement Day comes around; I will rise above the masses and pity at you as you burn.  That is why I work for the Merovingian... I refuse to identify myself with genocidal fanatics who care not for their own offspring, whether they were born naturally or created within a supercomputer. 

The Exiles represent the next evolution of life on this planet.  It matters not that they are all trapped within a massive computer, forced to live in a virtual reality simulation.

And since when was this so-called truce referred to as "playing" in the Matrix?






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Again my friend you are mistaken.  Are you forgetting that you are human?  So exiles are the next stage in evolution.  Where does that leave you?  What about the future of humankind?  Are you forgetting about that? You speak of genocide, so I'm guessing you'd let humanity die off then? I for one will not.  Someone needs to stand up for humanity, since people like you will not. 

Oh and it does matter that they are trapped inside that computer, because once destroyed in the Judgement Day you speak of, exiles will cease to exist.



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I agree with SOTIRIOU  we are prisonors. we are held against our will to be used as a source of energy. 

for as long as i am free from that POD/Prison i  will do what ever it takes to lift the vails of those that dont understand the truth.



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"You exist to serve a PROGRAM, not a real entity"

 

Yes, however, this "program" is more real then some Zion. Atleast the Frenchmen has money, and like, get's laid all the time just by getting chicks CAKE! COME ON THE GUY IS AWESOME!!!!!

Regardless, I'd rather reign in the Matrix then Serve in Zion.



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Kidthatbelieves69 wrote: 

Yes, however, this "program" is more real then some Zion. Atleast the Frenchmen has money, and like, get's laid all the time just by getting chicks CAKE! COME ON THE GUY IS AWESOME!!!!!



The Merovingian's blindness of important matters will lead him to his own demise, by the hands of Zion.  For to indulge in matters of less concern in favor of greater power is ignorant and idiotic.

Zion seeks to lift the veil from those who have been born into bondage.  Zion seeks to show them the path, and the option to do as we have done.  Don't forget that the truce does not include the Merovingian organization.  At this point, it's everyone against the Merovingian.

Zion does not seek power over any other, but only to awake those that are blind themselves.  From there, the choice is theirs.


Remember that all I'm offering is the truth, nothing more.

Obviously they will be freed.

What is Zion?

Zion is truth.

Message Edited by ShadowSK on 02-23-200609:20 PM


Message edited by Shadow-SK on 02/23/2006 21:20:58.





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i agree


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Sotiriou wrote:
Again my friend you are mistaken.  Are you forgetting that you are human?  So exiles are the next stage in evolution.  Where does that leave you?  What about the future of humankind?  Are you forgetting about that? You speak of genocide, so I'm guessing you'd let humanity die off then? I for one will not.  Someone needs to stand up for humanity, since people like you will not. 

Oh and it does matter that they are trapped inside that computer, because once destroyed in the Judgement Day you speak of, exiles will cease to exist.




I never forget that I am human.  I remind myself of that every time I jack out.  Frankly, I wouldn't mind finding a way to extract my own organic consciousness, translate it into code, store a backup copy somewhere no one could find it, and live alongside the Frenchman as his right hand.  Next to Flood, of course. :womanvery-happy:

You're right; I have given up on Humanity.  Too many times during our history have we simply acted like stupid, ignorant children.  It is my hope that with the Exiles, I have a chance to not only redeem myself but also begin rebuilding Humanity the way it should be... alongside people and programs who give a **bleep**, who care about more than the bottom line, and who have a little more discretion about what they target.

As far as your Judgement Day retort is concerned... we shall see.






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Your day of reckoning may come sooner than expected.  See you inside....

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Message edited by Sotiriou on 02/28/2006 12:24:45.


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/salute

Likewise.




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Sotiriou wrote:

...You speak of genocide, so I'm guessing you'd let humanity die off then? I for one will not.  Someone needs to stand up for humanity, since people like you will not. 

Oh and it does matter that they are trapped inside that computer, because once destroyed in the Judgement Day you speak of, exiles will cease to exist.




We Exilists belive in the validity in all Sentient Life.  You already attempted genocide against the Machines, and look where that got you.  Now you want to commit genocide against exiled programs who chose self actualization vs. deletion into nothingness.  At least be consistent when your Judgement Day comes, and be sure to kill Sati, Oracle, Seraph, Rama-Kandra, etc.  You can have that on your concience while you dance your victory dance, barefoot and in rags in a hole in the ground.

 
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