[8.3.5] "Here we can see some of the Ouroboros corporate offices!" - Vector - 11/12/07

**MotorZ**

Vinia wrote:

MatrixRefugee wrote:
And hmm... there's more going on in her little spiel than meets the ear...
Hmmm.... I've been thinking along the same line but as of yet I cannot find anything hidden. She certainy mentioned the circular shape and meaning of Ouroboros, including the history and visual representation (The Snake and the Dragon eating their own tails) effectively meaning forever. It can be related to the cycle of the simulation before the truce was formed. Could this mean that the cycle has to continue and connot be broken regardless to what we have been led to believe? Are the machines working toward preparing something to manage an 'unbreakable cycle'?
Ouroboros depicts a 'self sustaining', perfect being.
((Ouroboros always reminds me of Red Dwarf as it was written on the side of Listers box!))

I've been thinking of this unbreakable cycle for awhile. Who knows how far the control goes?

((Haven't read everything yet as their is a lot of dialogue, looked like a good event though.))

**MatrixRefugee**

Vinia wrote:

MatrixRefugee wrote:
And hmm... there's more going on in her little spiel than meets the ear...
Hmmm.... I've been thinking along the same line but as of yet I cannot find anything hidden. She certainy mentioned the circular shape and meaning of Ouroboros, including the history and visual representation (The Snake and the Dragon eating their own tails) effectively meaning forever. It can be related to the cycle of the simulation before the truce was formed. Could this mean that the cycle has to continue and connot be broken regardless to what we have been led to believe? Are the machines working toward preparing something to manage an 'unbreakable cycle'?
Ouroboros depicts a 'self sustaining', perfect being.
((Ouroboros always reminds me of Red Dwarf as it was written on the side of Listers box!))

The Ouroboros puts me in mind of the eternal life-death-rebirth cycle... plus, it has personal significance for me, but it would take too long to go into detail.

Croesis · 11/14/2007 14:35:27

MatrixRefugee wrote:

The Ouroboros puts me in mind of the eternal life-death-rebirth cycle... plus, it has personal significance for me, but it would take too long to go into detail.

It can be argued that the eternal life-death-rebirth cycle is better depicted by the Phoenix as it dies and is reborn from the ashes, the Ouroboros snake or dragon is more about continual recreation rather than death then rebirth.

Chemuel

The Pheonix is a positive image; birth of one from the death of another

The Ouroboros is negative; self-destroying power.

**Illyria22**

Ouroboros = time as a circle, repeating over and over with no progression forward.

Illyria

Croesis

Chemuel wrote:

The Pheonix is a positive image; birth of one from the death of another

The Ouroboros is negative; self-destroying power.

Hmm... whilst I would agree that the Phoenix is a strong positive image... the Ouroboros is not just self destroying, it is self creating as well. It seems to me that it is neither positive or negative, it just is.

Chamber

I think we need more info, before coming to any conclusions...