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 03/24/2009 17:51:05
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Vindicator
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ZippyTheSquirrel wrote: He's over at The Agency.
Oh yeah. I knew that.
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 03/24/2009 22:04:30
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Ascendent Logic
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Still waiting for that producer letter. :p
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 03/24/2009 23:03:45
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Systemic Anomaly
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Sorter wrote: Operative, you are 100% Right and 0% Wrong. A simple courtesy note would be all it takes. Just be up front with us and tell us what the story is. Even if there is no story. Knowing is better than not knowing. We deserve that much, I think.
As we all know...... 
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 03/25/2009 11:38:24
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Enlightened Mind
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... pweety pweese wally? 
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 03/25/2009 11:50:21
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Veteran Operator
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I'm not sure what people are expecting from Walrus that he hasn't already said. There is no longer a developer, there are no plans for further updates to the game, the story is now in the hands of the players, and essentially the game is still being offered by SOE for those that want to try it. I mean if there's nothing else to say, then there's really no point for this "magical" letter.
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 03/25/2009 12:10:43
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Enlightened Mind
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CODEMAN wrote: I'm not sure what people are expecting from Walrus that he hasn't already said. There is no longer a developer, there are no plans for further updates to the game, the story is now in the hands of the players, and essentially the game is still being offered by SOE for those that want to try it. I mean if there's nothing else to say, then there's really no point for this "magical" letter.
Is it... instead of saying what we don't have maybe we can actually have at least one lil letter for our $15/£10 a month after all, im pretty sure it don't require C++ skills...
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 03/25/2009 12:13:56
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Enlightened Mind
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CODEMAN wrote: I'm not sure what people are expecting from Walrus that he hasn't already said. There is no longer a developer, there are no plans for further updates to the game, the story is now in the hands of the players, and essentially the game is still being offered by SOE for those that want to try it. I mean if there's nothing else to say, then there's really no point for this "magical" letter.
Walrus wrote: I understand the concerns you all have and am doing what I can to see that we address them. In the meantime, we are looking at ways to improve the game with what resources we have. With the upcoming anniversary, I owe Virrago an article, so you'll be hearing more from me soon.
This simple check-in by Walrus, which he had promised as you can see above, is requested by the MxO Community, so that we can just know where we stand....officially. Anything else is Hearsay by every definition of the word. Walrus said something to some guy ingame at a party? Not good enough. Sorry.
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 03/25/2009 15:25:27
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MC Photographer
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Sorter wrote: This simple check-in by Walrus, which he had promised as you can see above, is requested by the MxO Community, so that we can just know where we stand....officially. Anything else is Hearsay by every definition of the word. Walrus said something to some guy ingame at a party? Not good enough. Sorry.
It was actually said to everyone who was at the official anniversary party in response to the questioning of both myself and other known and unknown members of the community. Does this equal official? I'd say it does, even if it doesn't replace a proper Producer's Letter which he had previously stated he would be writing. Just because you weren't there to hear it doesn't mean it wasn't said.
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 03/25/2009 15:52:08
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Enlightened Mind
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Shinryu wrote: Sorter wrote: This simple check-in by Walrus, which he had promised as you can see above, is requested by the MxO Community, so that we can just know where we stand....officially. Anything else is Hearsay by every definition of the word. Walrus said something to some guy ingame at a party? Not good enough. Sorry.
It was actually said to everyone who was at the official anniversary party in response to the questioning of both myself and other known and unknown members of the community. Does this equal official? I'd say it does, even if it doesn't replace a proper Producer's Letter which he had previously stated he would be writing. Just because you weren't there to hear it doesn't mean it wasn't said.
Oh I'm not saying it wasn't. I'm just saying telling people at an event that not everyone was able to participate in (for whatever reason) is no substitute for a simple letter that can be drafted in two minutes and given to Virrago to put up on DN1.
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 03/25/2009 16:04:04
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Virulent Mind
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Sorter wrote: Shinryu wrote: Sorter wrote: This simple check-in by Walrus, which he had promised as you can see above, is requested by the MxO Community, so that we can just know where we stand....officially. Anything else is Hearsay by every definition of the word. Walrus said something to some guy ingame at a party? Not good enough. Sorry.
It was actually said to everyone who was at the official anniversary party in response to the questioning of both myself and other known and unknown members of the community. Does this equal official? I'd say it does, even if it doesn't replace a proper Producer's Letter which he had previously stated he would be writing. Just because you weren't there to hear it doesn't mean it wasn't said.
Oh I'm not saying it wasn't. I'm just saying telling people at an event that not everyone was able to participate in (for whatever reason) is no substitute for a simple letter that can be drafted in two minutes and given to Virrago to put up on DN1.
My assumption is that Walrus hasn't published the letter yet is because they are actually seeing what can be done to help us out.
Well I mean it COULD be absolute laziness on their part...but maybe things will fall in line for once and MXO will get a small hand out from Sony. ^_^
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 03/25/2009 21:49:34
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Vindicator
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Another thing we must consider is that they are employees of SOE. Everything they tell us has to be screened through SOE's 'gate-keepers' (a term those in communications/broadcasting already know). Maybe the suits upstairs that sign Walrus's paychecks don't want him to say much, if anything, about the state of affairs with MxO. As much as they love us, the devs can only say what their bosses say is ok to say.
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 03/25/2009 23:00:40
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Vindicator
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I think at this point it's not so much a matter of people wanting to know what's going on as it is a matter of not wanting to be shafted on yet another thing we were promised, no matter how trivial. Walrus' lack of communication is symbolic of how we've been treated for a long time.
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 03/26/2009 15:00:16
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Systemic Anomaly
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Why oh why didn't i take the blueplill...look at me now. 
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 04/08/2009 20:14:04
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Veteran Operative
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TonyJaa wrote: Do not expect a Producer's Letter.Walrus was kind enough to answer some of our questions in the party..And believe me,you already know the answers!
With all due respect to yourself TJ, I have a number of objections to your statement. Someone once called me an "ungrateful *******" for critiscising Rarebit in /fc. My response was that I had nothing to be grateful for. Rarebit (and in the case of this discussion, SOE itself via Walrus) is not doing me a favour by bothering to give me content or organising an LE: he is not being charitable. It's a business for which I am paying full price for a service (more than full actually, because of the predjudice shown against non-American subscribers) and getting about 5% of what an MMO subscriber is entitled to expect. Walrus (or anyone, I'm not picking on Walrus out of vindictiveness - anyone from SOE would be nice) should be doing a LOT more than answering selected questions at an in-game party that I very likely would not be able to attend beause I live on the other side of the world AND work anti-social shifts. Attention given to a select few from a select group that could turn up on one server in a particular two or three hour slot is NOT kindness, it's unprofessional and uncaring.
Message edited by Jim78UK on 04/08/2009 20:14:58.
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 04/08/2009 23:02:38
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Vindicator
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Jim78UK wrote: (more than full actually, because of the predjudice shown against non-American subscribers)
To what do you refer?
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