An interesting thought, but... as the Oracle said, the Architect is bound to perfection, he wouldn't make such a comment without a good reason. Maybe he already realized the threat coming from Smith and considered Neo the only way to stop Smith.

Speculation, merely.

Didn't the Oracle say something along the lines of "You have the sight now Neo" when they met during reloaded?

Hmm I'll have to think about this a little more but this is my initial thoughts:


We know that the machines lie on several occasions (ya know, the whole "false reality thing"" />; however, The Architect seems to genuinely be providing a completely fair choice.  The Oracle was created in order to help guide The One.  One has to wonder, would Neo and Trinity have fallen in love if The Oracle hadn't given Trinity her prophecy (same as the vase instance)?  We know The Oracle did something different than she had done in the past, and that clearly led to Neo making his decision the way he did.  The Architect doesn't lead him a particular way because that isn't his function, that is The Oracle's function. 

As far as I understand it, machines/programs are supposed to be incapable of actually telling a lie.  This may have been taken out for the game, but did it ever happen in the trilogy?

That basically goes to the last scene of the 3rd movie between the oracle and the architect.

O: What about the others?

A: What others?

O:  The ones that want out.

A: Obviously they will be freed.

O: I have your word on that?

A: What do you think i am, human?

Pretty sure that is close to the exact wording.  My take on it all is that neo, by that point, would have chosen the door he went through regardless.  He knew that going through the other door would mean the death of every zionite in the real world, including trinity.  He choose the door he went through because, even though he was unsure of how he would do it, he was determined to save the humans.

As far as I understand it, machines/programs are supposed to be incapable of actually telling a lie.  This may have been taken out for the game, but did it ever happen in the trilogy?

The intention of the machines was not lie about the reality, but keep them under their reality. I can't recall any moment when the machines lie.

The Architect gave neo that choice because that's how the humans accept the matrix in first place, with choice. So the Architect made the math and thought that every human in every case needs a choice. Obviously he couldn't forsee that Neo would choose the left door, but the choice was given to keep his own logic.

I disagree.  The intention of the machines seems clearly to me to be to lie to humans about reality.  If a human would have come across an agent and said, "Hey, is this world an illusion?" do you believe the Agent would have said, "Yes"?  No!  The Matrix is a manipulative system of control!  It's obvious Machiavellian principles.  Read Plato's Allegory of the Cave and Descartes theory of radical doubt - those are what the Matrix are clearly based off of.

Someone said the Oracle was created to guide the one. I think her purpose was to relate to humans. I perceived her now as an exile who chooses to guide redpills. Maybe for her own self interest. She needs the Matrix to survive. But who knows her real motivation. I think she is a system of control like Neo suspected. She offers a choice, too. Believe her or not.

As far as the Architect mentioning Trinity, you bring up a good point about Neo not knowing that Trinity was in the Matrix and in danger. If Neo had chosen to reset the Matrix, wouldn't that have cleared the Smith Virus? The Merovingian survived by hiding in Effie's constructs and then re-entering the Matrix to 'reign', right? So Smith would have just gone down with the ship.

So what reasons could he have for mentioning her?

• integrity (doubt that, but it is possible)
• hatred (it is obvious the best choice is to reset the Matrix. Maybe he just wants Neo to suffer knowing that his love is dying and he must choose to let her die in the interests of the greater number. Though the architect does not display hatred for humans. That was Smith's role.)
• Any other theories?

the architect cannot see past any choice

to him they are varibles to the equation that must be solved and countered.

that is his mistake.

while he was busy, thinking 2 dimensionally with neo, some serious stuff was going down in the simulation. smith was beginning to get his groove on.

he had fragemnts of neo in his programming because of what happened in the first film. he didnt quite understand it but explained it as something overwritten or copied. the bottom line was he is back, unplugged and he has the mind of neo reversed.

neo wants to save humanity

smith wants to destroy humanity

now the architect has 2 problems, binary in nature, opposite of each other

the situation is escalating rapidly. agents are despatched to counter the problem but to no impact

the architect is then faced with the truth to just how these 2 anomalies blindslided him in the ultimate "didnt see this *poop* coming kind of way!"

2 systemic anomalies threatening the system, one is reproducing itself by overwriting everyone it comes into contact with.

all efforts to counter fail in a fashion that produces another anomaly to counter

1000 smiths/1000 agents to counter=2000 smiths

2000 smiths/6000 agents to counter=8000 smiths

see a pattern emerging?

at the end of revolutions, the matrix was completely inhabited by the anomaly. every blue pill, every program was smith

all recources to counter have been depleted.

u have the fields where people are grown but they are not connected to the matrix yet,

mmmm

we know the rest of the story. the architects mistake?

not seeing and countering smith in time was the mistake.

that is my theory anyway

An interesting thought, but... as the Oracle said, the Architect is bound to perfection, he wouldn't make such a comment without a good reason. Maybe he already realized the threat coming from Smith and considered Neo the only way to stop Smith.

Speculation, merely.