Hacker is the Uber class once again

**9mmfu**

For the record stacking DoTs is by design and not likely to change.

Continue discussion.

**Lucious**

Before any of you others can say it, I got pwnt by a Dev. There you happy.

**LtCmdr_Tsusai**

I dunno...
I can see stacking of individual DoT's ok... I personally never have gotten Plague Zone 1.0 and 2.0 to stack (family reuse timer)...
But getting hit with the whole family (think its code infection) just different versions (1.0-5.0) within about 4-7 seconds from the same person...there seems to be something wrong there in my opinion

**Denary**

LtCmdr_Tsusai wrote:

I dunno...
I can see stacking of individual DoT's ok... I personally never have gotten Plague Zone 1.0 and 2.0 to stack (family reuse timer)...
But getting hit with the whole family (think its code infection) just different versions (1.0-5.0) within about 4-7 seconds from the same person...there seems to be something wrong there in my opinion

if ya don't wanna get killed by a hacker, just powerless him, or stun. MA's have that lvl 42 Aikido ab which I forgot SMILEY

and guns can use 2 different abs which at least one has a chance of working

Nicodemusx

Yeah I don't know if anyone said this but if you use the ability to increase your resistance 75 points. I've seen doT's doing 7dmg. This one seems to be figured out pretty good.

From my 2 months into cr2, everything has been pretty well balanced. Everyone dies.

**sonofthree**

The sky is falling the sky is falling

Hacker DOTs where nerfed so bad that they where useless after people complained about the damage, so to compensate for the huge DPS nerf the devs let hackers stack their DOTs. What you have to remember is without our abillities we have no DPS capability at all, this not only made the ravager tree useful again but let us DPS every round of combat bringing us back within the realm of survivability against other classes in interlock. It's not uber...its just the flavor of the month. Like SMGs, sniper, MKT before it. I've seen good KTs beat dot/spike build hackers and Ive seen artillerist hackers beat MAs. It's still pretty rough for a single hacker to survive most up and up one on one fights, but it is possible.

**Pylat**

LtCmdr_Tsusai wrote:

I dunno...
I can see stacking of individual DoT's ok... I personally never have gotten Plague Zone 1.0 and 2.0 to stack (family reuse timer)...
But getting hit with the whole family (think its code infection) just different versions (1.0-5.0) within about 4-7 seconds from the same person...there seems to be something wrong there in my opinion

Thats because that person must have been exploiting. They all have the same reuse timer (12 seconds) which means you use one and that means you have to wait at least 6 seconds before using another, which is two rounds of IL. So to hit you with the whole family takes at least ~26 seconds, seeming each one also has a 2 sec cast timer.
And someone used Code Infection 5.0? That is some serious exploits (I acknowledge that was an honest mistake on your part, just poking some fun).

**DeathIsInevitable** · 12/13/2006 02:03:00

hacker is fine I think it has to be the worst tree other then the Sims tho it is nothing like it once was over powered to hell and stacking still doesnt have much damage event when I have any resistance too lol I never see to many hackers hit me everytime anyways even without hyper deflection.

**Sneaker**

It's not fine.

Some of the timers are as borked as MKT: Slow, and Root. Wayyyy too long CR1 style, and overlapping use/effect timers. Plus, stackable DoT's.

Only difference is, more people like to exploit MKT's borked use timers than Hacker's SMILEY

phaydren

Sneaker wrote:

Plus, stackable DoT's.

i will point you to 9mmfu's answer at the top.

9mmfu

For the record stacking DoTs is by design and not likely to change.

**Sneaker**

phaydren wrote:

Sneaker wrote:
Plus, stackable DoT's.

i will point you to 9mmfu's answer at the top.

9mmfu

For the record stacking DoTs is by design and not likely to change.

Ohhh, I'm sure a lot of things are considered "by design". I'll bet neurodart and sever artery are considered "by design".

Doesn't make it right. Doesn't mean it shouldn't change.

phaydren

hey i didnt want to start an argument , just pointing out the official response on the stackable dot's , and btw i agree that some timers from both trees are pretty much borked but theres no need to attack me over it.

**Denary**

I feel that Code Infection is a little overpowered, but compared to what a hacker could do in the old system it's a blessing.

AnXieTy

consumables > stacked dots, nuff said.

**Kemy**

Arcanoloth wrote:

LtCmdr_Tsusai wrote:
I dunno...
I can see stacking of individual DoT's ok... I personally never have gotten Plague Zone 1.0 and 2.0 to stack (family reuse timer)...
But getting hit with the whole family (think its code infection) just different versions (1.0-5.0) within about 4-7 seconds from the same person...there seems to be something wrong there in my opinion

Thats because that person must have been exploiting. They all have the same reuse timer (12 seconds) which means you use one and that means you have to wait at least 6 seconds before using another, which is two rounds of IL. So to hit you with the whole family takes at least ~26 seconds, seeming each one also has a 2 sec cast timer.
And someone used Code Infection 5.0? That is some serious exploits (I acknowledge that was an honest mistake on your part, just poking some fun).

Then the stackable DOTS from Code Infection can be sploited. The other day I recieved the whole serie from 1.0 to 4.0 in a matter of seconds, all from one guy.
I can understand why it's stackable "by design". So lower level players can compete in pvp with a hacker tree. But the re-use timers should work properly. Though it's already known we can sploit the re-use timers on all abilities, not only hackers.
Time to fill in more /bugs. Yay! ...