Nuclear bombing of 01

Serash · 10/23/2006 11:09:49

Silly humans...

No one ever made it out of the matrix. The "real" world is still part of the matrix. It was created for those humans whose mind would not believe the matrix. So they were "freed" to deal with the harsh "real world". It's pretty easy to rerun the matrix simulation. How do you think they got the multiple Neo's? They didn't clone him did they? Nope, because Mr. Anderson is still in a pod. One reboot and everyone's alive and it starts all over. He's back to being the one again. Maybe this time he'll be in love with Morphus and not Trinity. (ewwww) They're all still copper tops. Sorry.

**bannanaphone**

Serash wrote:

Silly humans...

No one ever made it out of the matrix. The "real" world is still part of the matrix. It was created for those humans whose mind would not believe the matrix. So they were "freed" to deal with the harsh "real world". It's pretty easy to rerun the matrix simulation. How do you think they got the multiple Neo's? They didn't clone him did they? Nope, because Mr. Anderson is still in a pod. One reboot and everyone's alive and it starts all over. He's back to being the one again. Maybe this time he'll be in love with Morphus and not Trinity. (ewwww) They're all still copper tops. Sorry.

O RLY?!

**Mobyias**

Serash wrote:

Silly humans...

No one ever made it out of the matrix. The "real" world is still part of the matrix. It was created for those humans whose mind would not believe the matrix. So they were "freed" to deal with the harsh "real world". It's pretty easy to rerun the matrix simulation. How do you think they got the multiple Neo's? They didn't clone him did they? Nope, because Mr. Anderson is still in a pod. One reboot and everyone's alive and it starts all over. He's back to being the one again. Maybe this time he'll be in love with Morphus and not Trinity. (ewwww) They're all still copper tops. Sorry.

possible, but i doubt it. still possible tho.

**ZippyTheSquirrel**

Serash wrote:

Silly humans...

No one ever made it out of the matrix. The "real" world is still part of the matrix. It was created for those humans whose mind would not believe the matrix. So they were "freed" to deal with the harsh "real world". It's pretty easy to rerun the matrix simulation. How do you think they got the multiple Neo's? They didn't clone him did they? Nope, because Mr. Anderson is still in a pod. One reboot and everyone's alive and it starts all over. He's back to being the one again. Maybe this time he'll be in love with Morphus and not Trinity. (ewwww) They're all still copper tops. Sorry.

IT'S ALL LIES! LIES I TELL YOU!!!

*touches an earpiece in his large squirrel ear*
Yes, I'd like to order a pizza...

**sontag**

When you think of how the machines studied the human race they would have had to of noticed the fact that we humans have been playing the nuke like it was a trump card for the better part of 60 years now. I think they knew if they were going to take over they would have to deal with a nuking. So before declaring all out war they probably spent a little time researching EMP shielding. Given their supperior intelligence they most likely perfected it and made it standard for all new robots being made. Thusly when the inevitable nuke came, they were prepared for it and only those caught in the explosion were destroyed.

**RetroX**

I just always presumed that the machines could recist the nucleur blasts like really strong furtristic metals and stuff. Or pehaps the nuclear blasts were mis guided as to where they actually landed. After all the humans would have pissed almost as they were droped.

**Garu**

With the proper resources, its very easy to shield yourself from an EMP. Even as destructive as nuclear detonation is, the machines wouldn't be effected by it.

Thus leading to the the blackening of the sky as a last resort. May god have mercy...

**SicFaith**

you know the Machines are running on Linux...

[CoZ]LostProphet

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phaydren wrote:
The reason i believe 01 was still standing was because the machines were still around after the bombings is due to an underground shielded bunker (talking lead here people, not start trek) and it was probably a few miles down as the range of a nuke, even its shockwave is fairly limited when it tries to penetrate a good distance into solid rock, maybe a mile or two.

Which is what I think all those tunnels Zion uses came from. Unless that's explained elsewhere...

I thought in The original Matrix system Trinity said they were sewers for the machines, I don't know the exact wordings of it.

She doesnt say if they were machine or human citys, but im assuming machine citys since those sewers and tunnles were HUGE and since we dont have citys that span hundreds of miles.
These forums suck, they broke my quoting thing. Anyway, we don't NOW, but if several leading architects are to be believed, we will in the future. Let's not forget that when mankind came up with AI, it was significantly ahead of where we are now - in the Second Renaissance they had hovering cars, for example.

Havocide

GirlyGurl84 wrote:

What im talking about is why the machines were able to defeat the humans go to war etc... the blasts from the bombs should have destroyed the machines. Also has anyone explained why neo was able to destroyed the squiddys?

this is why he could defeat the sentinals

/Begin Quote

Oracle: The power of the One extends beyond this world. It reaches from here all the way back to where it came from.
Neo: Where?
Oracle: The Source. That's what you felt when you touched those Sentinels. But you weren't ready for it. You should be dead, but apparently you weren't ready for that, either.

/end quote

Sykin · 01/04/2007 15:59:48

You have to remember that the Machines spanned across the world. I would not be surprised if they themselves "lived" like Zionites do in the sewers and waste systems. Think about it. They do not require food or oxygen, they can rebuild tirelessly, they're all connected to the same network so that they all know when to be alert... And they do not suffer the aftershock of emotion like humans.

Eventually they must have created countermeasures against pinpoint bombing; they acquired lasers, that's for sure, so their accuracy with something like that must be perfect. And it would warrant such a massive ground assault by mankind if their missiles became ineffective.

**Denary**

Serash wrote:

Silly humans...

No one ever made it out of the matrix. The "real" world is still part of the matrix. It was created for those humans whose mind would not believe the matrix. So they were "freed" to deal with the harsh "real world". It's pretty easy to rerun the matrix simulation. How do you think they got the multiple Neo's? They didn't clone him did they? Nope, because Mr. Anderson is still in a pod. One reboot and everyone's alive and it starts all over. He's back to being the one again. Maybe this time he'll be in love with Morphus and not Trinity. (ewwww) They're all still copper tops. Sorry.

actually I had a thought about this, which I got too in depth tbh SMILEY

When the Architect told Neo about his choice, he said that his code would be disasembled and he would have to choose a group of men and women from to rebuild Zion. I thought that he would choose from people within the matrix, the Neo in the films walked out of the door because he loved Trinity not "the rest of your species" as the Architect said, now the Architect made out that Neo would be saving Humanity by walking to the door where he would be decompiled and walking back to the matrix would be to Trinity and the end of his species, I think that the first One and the second, third, fouth and fifth One were Decompiled, they chose the men and women to rebuild Zion and they were set free in the Matrix, the Matrix was remade to the real, and a new Matrix was created within the Matrix. So the real world was a dream and the Dream was within a Dream. But they hadn't realized about the systemic anomaly at that time and when the second One emerged they had to make the matrix within the matrix the real and have a matrix within the virtual matrix.

When Neo was made the One they had envisioned he would be the same as the rest being in love with the rest of humanity pushing him to create the 7th Version. Yet Neo loved Trinity and went to save her, but because the Matrix hadn't developed to the point where smith emerged as Neo's Opposite they didn't forsee that it would cause much because the lives in the 6th Matrix were all virtual. As Smith spread he took over the 6th Matrix but the oracle said "he won't stop there" she said (I don't know the exact quote) that he wouldn't stop till there was nothing left or something similar, which could imply that Smith had plans to take over the other 5 Matrix's aswell.

Theory but possible.

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pack-hunter wrote:

actually I had a thought about this, which I got too in depth tbh

When the Architect told Neo about his choice, he said that his code would be disasembled and he would have to choose a group of men and women from to rebuild Zion. I thought that he would choose from people within the matrix, the Neo in the films walked out of the door because he loved Trinity not "the rest of your species" as the Architect said, now the Architect made out that Neo would be saving Humanity by walking to the door where he would be decompiled and walking back to the matrix would be to Trinity and the end of his species, I think that the first One and the second, third, fouth and fifth One were Decompiled, they chose the men and women to rebuild Zion and they were set free in the Matrix, the Matrix was remade to the real, and a new Matrix was created within the Matrix. So the real world was a dream and the Dream was within a Dream. But they hadn't realized about the systemic anomaly at that time and when the second One emerged they had to make the matrix within the matrix the real and have a matrix within the virtual matrix.
When Neo was made the One they had envisioned he would be the same as the rest being in love with the rest of humanity pushing him to create the 7th Version. Yet Neo loved Trinity and went to save her, but because the Matrix hadn't developed to the point where smith emerged as Neo's Opposite they didn't forsee that it would cause much because the lives in the 6th Matrix were all virtual. As Smith spread he took over the 6th Matrix but the oracle said "he won't stop there" she said (I don't know the exact quote) that he wouldn't stop till there was nothing left or something similar, which could imply that Smith had plans to take over the other 5 Matrix's aswell.
Theory but possible.

Where I came from we had a saying- no MWAMers! (Matrix-Within-A-Matrix theorizers), simply because there's no real support for it, and it can just go on with infinite speculation about the box-within-a-box-within-a-box...to the nth power.

I have to say that your theory is really confused and I think it goes way outside of the intent of the writers. When you say the Matrix was "remade to the real"...I see nothing that supports that idea anywhere. Instead, the Matrix was reloaded each time, with changes that resulted from each new iteration of the prime program. Just as the machines had planned the One chose the 23 individuals from within the Matrix to populate the new Zion in the Real each time. You say that they "hadn't realized" about the systemic anomaly at that time, but in fact the "One" program itself was based on the Oracle's idea for dealing with the anomaly, the One is an embodiment of the anomaly (the problem of choice...those who think differently, who "keep trying to wake up" SMILEY

around which like-minded rebels rally. As the machines, since you can't stop some people from waking up and rejecting the simulation, you find a way to allow them to wake up but in a way that you can control while they remain ignorant of that control.

Smith's "not stopping there...till there's nothing left" was referring to his virus spreading into the Real of the machine city, thus destroying their entire race. This was the reason why they agreed to Neo's deal to jack in and fight Smith to end the war, because he saved their butts too. Smith was a "bastard" because he was begot by the Oracle but not the Architect (mother but no father...not in union with him), and this was the nature of the "dangerous game" she played...the unbalancing risked not only the destruction of the Matrix, but of the entire machine race and herself.

**Vallant**

Whoa, hold on a second...

I'm sure the Oracle will point out that Smith is the Architech's creation not hers; I believe the line is something like this:

Neo: "What is he?"

Oracle: "He is your opposite, your negative, the result of the equation trying to balance itself out"

So he's a balancing measure rather than an unbalancing one, so therefore a tool of the architech... Of course I may have it wrong, I'm already thinking too much on this (I won't write it down it'll be boring =p)