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ThePigeonKing wrote:
I have found the perfect picture of NightTrace in this situation:



cap0ne, what are you doing posting EPN propoganda?!?!?

but wait, why would they want to receive The Kid?


Message edited by Ebola on 07/09/2007 01:51:26.


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Vaico wrote:
Reposco is on, he just doesn't entertain other Organization's Operatives the way Zeissman will.


Reposco is a *CENSORED* nice fella. So is Zeissman. EPN really lucked out in round two.

To be honest, all of the new LESIG members are awesome as far as talent goes, except, well, except the Machine liaisons. There are also some quantity issues, as in people we never see in the game, i.e. also the Machine liaisons (and sadly, I never see Caelifera much, either).

So does there seem to be a common denomenator here?




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Honestly... What's so bad about people being IC ingame and OOC on the forums?
Rarebit does it all the time, and everyone's fine with it.

Maybe those promoted to Liaison status should have a separate forum account for "official" posts, with the "Liaison" rank and all that. Their other account could be for them to function as a player, the way Rarebit uses his dev account to speak OOC and his LE character accounts for IC posts.

- Void

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EndlessVoid wrote:
Honestly... What's so bad about people being IC ingame and OOC on the forums?
Rarebit does it all the time, and everyone's fine with it.

Maybe those promoted to Liaison status should have a separate forum account for "official" posts, with the "Liaison" rank and all that. Their other account could be for them to function as a player, the way Rarebit uses his dev account to speak OOC and his LE character accounts for IC posts.

- Void


Actually, I liked it a lot better when I didn't know who was behind the Live Event characters...  but that's just me.  Interacting with Live Event characters has lost a bit of it's "magic" now that I know Rarebit is behind them.  When you meet a character like Niobe, or Gray, or the Merovingian...  it feels like I'm meeting a character played by Rarebit, as opposed to actually meeting the character.

If that makes sense...

Like, when I'd meet Morpheus back in the day, it really felt like I was meeting the character of Morpheus.

I -hate- seeing LESIG characters go OOC.  I don't WANT to know who's behind them.  I don't WANT to know the player.  I like the mystery, and I don't really want to hold a grudge against a liaison because I don't like the player OOC.  Because you know that would happen with a lot of people here.

Let's say NightTrace played a LESIG liaison for EPN.  Half of EPN hate NightTrace.  A lot of people can't seperate that wall between IC and OOC...  if they knew Trace was the guy who played the liaison, they'd think that every single time the Machines ruined an EPN plan, it would be because Trace leaked it...  which wouldn't be true.

This game generates more drama then daytime television.  I think it's bad enough having LESIG comprised of players without having to know who the players actually are.

~Fen




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You make a good point, Fen.
Those early days were the best, and honestly what we need is the institution of a new LET.

But just as honestly, that's probably never going to be in the cards. The current LESIG plan has been set up to avoid drama, but drama has happened anyway - drama will always happen. I'd take knowing who the Liaisons are OOC over having Liaisons that don't know their server or org's population.

- Void


You're right that a lot of people wouldn't be keen on that, though. I like to believe that most people are capable of separating OOC and IC, but maybe in some ways I'm still back on Regression. SMILEY

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I've always seen it like this... Characters are characters are characters. End. Of. Story. We aren't watching a movie anymore. This is The Matrix. You can't have Laurence Fishburne walking around going by "Larry" during the movie. Keanu can't break the fourth wall and laugh at the camera when The Oracle says something funny. You can't have the actors lining up at the end scene of a movie saying "Hi, I'm Hugo Weaving and I was playing Agent Smith in the movie you just saw."

This is not "let's play dress-up". When you're a LESIG member, the game aspect should completely vanish. IC and OOC don't exist. Morpheus is Morpheus. Period. Morpheus isn't Rarebit = Morpheus. Anything other than TOTAL DEVOTION as a character - be it on DN1, in game or wherever - is completely and entirely unacceptable.

You can't have LESIG saying "((brb food))" during an event. There is no reason to break character for anything. Movies are movies. Why is this any different? Is this not simply another medium meant to accomplish the same as, or even more than a movie? If I'm mistaken, then this game and "experience" have been nothing but a mistake and a waste of time.

This is truly disgusting on every possible level.

Message edited by Amad3us on 07/09/2007 08:43:15.


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Dear Torman,

You are inactive, you are corrupt, and you are a liaison for personal gain. You have not allowed Recursion Machinists a proper live event in months. Not being able to go into buildings without massive lag is not an excuse.

Step down.




To my fellow Recursionite Machinists:

If you wish to see a difference and receive the content you are paying for, please refuse any and all orders from our inactive liaison officers Torman and Eventual. Tell them you're mad as hell and you're not going to take it anymore.

Players corrupted by an ego that has resulted in their inactive LESIG position will not be tolerated. kthxbye


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ThePigeonKing wrote:
Dear Torman,

You are inactive, you are corrupt, and you are a liaison for personal gain. You have not allowed Recursion Machinists a proper live event in months. Not being able to go into buildings without massive lag is not an excuse.

Step down.




To my fellow Recursionite Machinists:

If you wish to see a difference and receive the content you are paying for, please refuse any and all orders from our inactive liaison officers Torman and Eventual. Tell them you're mad as hell and you're not going to take it anymore.

Players corrupted by an ego that has resulted in their inactive LESIG position will not be tolerated. kthxbye
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

Message edited by Zudrag on 07/09/2007 13:27:58.


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Message edited by Ballak on 07/09/2007 13:41:42.



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Guys, I have been singing this same song for over 2 months.

I'll be right here to cheerlead and wave the banner all I can, but you need to know that nothing will get done about this. It is easiest to do nothing. Doing nothing about it is less effort than doing something. It cost nothing to do nothing about it.

All of these posts will go unanswered. Any PM on the subject will go unanswered. All facts are in vane. All pleas for fairness fall on deaf ears. All good ideas will be tossed out.

Nothing will happen.

They do not care.

Let me repeat that. It is important.

They do not care.

/dap: /salute: /peace out



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Thank you, for showing how in the end this gets fixed.

Ban the OP of the deleted thread. And in a startling show of effort, the accused duel clients for almost 30 minutes. Because I've never seen someone duel client...therefor we must be wrong.

This entire situation disgusts me, but the higher ups way of fixing things just disapoints me.



Message edited by NightTrace on 07/09/2007 19:00:31.



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Was it an ingame ban, a forum ban, or just a suspention. Not that any are justifiable but there is still a difrence in the three.




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Forum ban/suspension.


Message edited by Yasamuu on 07/09/2007 19:45:32.



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Actully after I asked about what type of ban it was on the forums cap0ne told me ingame that it was a forum ban not because of his post but because of his sig. Now yes baning someone from the forums for a sig when you could have just as easily told them to change it is still f-ed up but its nearly as f-ed up as it would have been because of his post. As you can see his post is still around on this thread (meaning eithe A the mods haven't found it and taken it down or B there is nothing wrong with it) and the only reason the other thread was locked/moved was because it turned into a flame war taht had revealed the ID of a LEISG member.




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GamiSB wrote:

Actully after I asked about what type of ban it was on the forums cap0ne told me ingame that it was a forum ban not because of his post but because of his sig. Now yes baning someone from the forums for a sig when you could have just as easily told them to change it is still f-ed up but its nearly as f-ed up as it would have been because of his post. As you can see his post is still around on this thread (meaning eithe A the mods haven't found it and taken it down or B there is nothing wrong with it) and the only reason the other thread was locked/moved was because it turned into a flame war taht had revealed the ID of a LEISG member.


That doesn't resolve the issue he was complaining about, and that's what is needed.
 
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