Terrorists in the matrix shall not be tolerated

CLAUDIUS

I recall a wise man say: You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe(I.E the Lies of the system). You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. (I.E The Truth)

In the above Quote: you can clearly see that choices are offered

**Bayamos**

Yes - but only 1% of the the human population wants to make that choice. Aggressive recruiting tactics disrupt the System's stability and are bad for humanity in general. I have no problem with people being freed from the Matrix - IF they choose to be freed, instead of being tricked into it by code bombs, sneaky tactics, et cetera. Sure, TAECROSS was a "rogue" when she let loose her attacks - but do I really believe that? No. Taecross is a higher-up in the EPN organization, and I don't believe for one second that the Kid and others didn't know what she was up to; rather, they let it appear as if she was rogue so they could claim plausible deniability, and keep buddy-buddy with the other organizations while they run black operations to attack them secretly. If you think Taecross was on her own with the code bombs, then I pity you for the wool that's been pulled over your eyes.

And to those who complain about "fairness" and "discrimination" -- tough luck. The Matrix is the Machines' world; they built, they operate it. You and us both are only alive today because for some reason, the Machines decided to stop attacking us. But why did they ever attack us in the first place? Us. Humans started the war, we caused this whole mess to occur. The General says in his blog that at the core of all Machine programming, the original source elements are retained - that they may kill humans, but they do not enjoy it. Machines are not aggressors, enslavers, bloodthirsty opressors. They're our own creations who've tried time and time again to do what's best for us, only to have humans themselves come in and muck things up. E Pluribus Neo are a direct threat to the System, and must be dealth with accordingly. Agent Gray himself made this clear to Machine operatives several months ago after a meeting with E Pluribus Neo (which was subsequently interrupted by Veil). Fellow machine operatives, we should all be working together to rid this threat from the simulation.

**oranos**

Choices?! His speech is pure manipulation. He doesn't give any idea as to what the redpill will free him to. No idea of the scorched wasteland he will see. He is given two options - One of which is made to sound boring and uninviting (Bluepill), and one which is made to sound exciting (Redpill).

Where is the true choice? Anybody can put a swing on words.

You take the blue pill, you continue sleep blissfully and enjoy the world as it should be. You take the redpill, you see Humanity's biggest mistake, and the world in ruins.

Now how does that sound? Yes that was biased. But isn't the quote you just used also biased?

**Hydrazine**

Bayamo wrote:

Yes - but only 1% of the the human population wants to make that choice. Aggressive recruiting tactics disrupt the System's stability and are bad for humanity in general. I have no problem with people being freed from the Matrix - IF they choose to be freed, instead of being tricked into it by code bombs, sneaky tactics, et cetera. Sure, TAECROSS was a "rogue" when she let loose her attacks - but do I really believe that? No. Taecross is a higher-up in the EPN organization, and I don't believe for one second that the Kid and others didn't know what she was up to; rather, they let it appear as if she was rogue so they could claim plausible deniability, and keep buddy-buddy with the other organizations while they run black operations to attack them secretly. If you think Taecross was on her own with the code bombs, then I pity you for the wool that's been pulled over your eyes.

And to those who complain about "fairness" and "discrimination" -- tough luck. The Matrix is the Machines' world; they built, they operate it. You and us both are only alive today because for some reason, the Machines decided to stop attacking us. But why did they ever attack us in the first place? Us. Humans started the war, we caused this whole mess to occur. The General says in his blog that at the core of all Machine programming, the original source elements are retained - that they may kill humans, but they do not enjoy it. Machines are not aggressors, enslavers, bloodthirsty opressors. They're our own creations who've tried time and time again to do what's best for us, only to have humans themselves come in and muck things up. E Pluribus Neo are a direct threat to the System, and must be dealth with accordingly. Agent Gray himself made this clear to Machine operatives several months ago after a meeting with E Pluribus Neo (which was subsequently interrupted by Veil). Fellow machine operatives, we should all be working together to rid this threat from the simulation.

First, Where do you get your statistics from? How can you say that only 1% of the human population wants to make that choice when the entire population don't even know about A choice??

Second, You should really do your homework before you make statements. For one thing, TaeCross is MALE, and another, Shimada issued a warrant for his arrest even BEFORE he broke any EPN laws and set off codebombs. In my opinion, it was handled in under a week and that is very quick compared to say, Anome. Had they wanted him to do what he did, they could have easily delayed the search. Our organization has never been one to condone code bombs even when Morpheus used them. A dead human is no good to us. It's like saying that the machines secretly want all humans to be freed. It just doesn't make sense for the machines to want that just as it doesnt make sense for EPN to want code bombs to be set off.

Lastly, if anything, Machines should be on board with us. Or at least on the same page. We don't want humans to die and neither do you. All we want humans to have a choice to know the truth, whats so wrong with that? Why do you feel so threatened by humans being given a choice? Maybe it WOULD only be 1% that wants to be awakened, who knows. But at least they would have been given that choice.

**oranos**

Hydrazine wrote:

Bayamo wrote:
Yes - but only 1% of the the human population wants to make that choice. Aggressive recruiting tactics disrupt the System's stability and are bad for humanity in general. I have no problem with people being freed from the Matrix - IF they choose to be freed, instead of being tricked into it by code bombs, sneaky tactics, et cetera. Sure, TAECROSS was a "rogue" when she let loose her attacks - but do I really believe that? No. Taecross is a higher-up in the EPN organization, and I don't believe for one second that the Kid and others didn't know what she was up to; rather, they let it appear as if she was rogue so they could claim plausible deniability, and keep buddy-buddy with the other organizations while they run black operations to attack them secretly. If you think Taecross was on her own with the code bombs, then I pity you for the wool that's been pulled over your eyes.

And to those who complain about "fairness" and "discrimination" -- tough luck. The Matrix is the Machines' world; they built, they operate it. You and us both are only alive today because for some reason, the Machines decided to stop attacking us. But why did they ever attack us in the first place? Us. Humans started the war, we caused this whole mess to occur. The General says in his blog that at the core of all Machine programming, the original source elements are retained - that they may kill humans, but they do not enjoy it. Machines are not aggressors, enslavers, bloodthirsty opressors. They're our own creations who've tried time and time again to do what's best for us, only to have humans themselves come in and muck things up. E Pluribus Neo are a direct threat to the System, and must be dealth with accordingly. Agent Gray himself made this clear to Machine operatives several months ago after a meeting with E Pluribus Neo (which was subsequently interrupted by Veil). Fellow machine operatives, we should all be working together to rid this threat from the simulation.

First, Where do you get your statistics from? How can you say that only 1% of the human population wants to make that choice when the entire population don't even know about A choice??
Second, You should really do your homework before you make statements. For one thing, TaeCross is MALE, and another, Shimada issued a warrant for his arrest even BEFORE he broke any EPN laws and set off codebombs. In my opinion, it was handled in under a week and that is very quick compared to say, Anome. Had they wanted him to do what he did, they could have easily delayed the search. Our organization has never been one to condone code bombs even when Morpheus used them. A dead human is no good to us. It's like saying that the machines secretly want all humans to be freed. It just doesn't make sense for the machines to want that just as it doesnt make sense for EPN to want code bombs to be set off.
Lastly, if anything, Machines should be on board with us. Or at least on the same page. We don't want humans to die and neither do you. All we want humans to have a choice to know the truth, whats so wrong with that? Why do you feel so threatened by humans being given a choice? Maybe it WOULD only be 1% that wants to be awakened, who knows. But at least they would have been given that choice.

Poor Michael is a very misguided man. You do not want humans to have a choice. You want the Matrix destroyed, and all humans freed from it. I have, to various people in the past, explained that this would be impossible for various reasons, and I shall not go into detail with it now but let me just say: Shock, over-population, wars over resources.

The Kid, as he is called (an appropriate name may I say), is doing the wrong thing for the wrong reason. He believes he is doing what Neo wanted. Neo did not want the Matrix destroyed and all of humanity out of the pods. He saw that this would be impossible, and in the end disasterous. He secured a future with more choice and freedom than any of you could have hoped to get through your foolish actions. Yet what does the Kid do? The EPN are terrorists whether you will admit it or not. I agree with my factionmate that those code bombs were probably condoned in private by the leaders of EPN.

My personal belief is that the Kid is not capable of leading a group; especially one that goes against it's own very idea.

Called

oranos wrote:

Poor Michael is a very misguided man. You do not want humans to have a choice. You want the Matrix destroyed, and all humans freed from it. I have, to various people in the past, explained that this would be impossible for various reasons, and I shall not go into detail with it now but let me just say: Shock, over-population, wars over resources.
The Kid, as he is called (an appropriate name may I say), is doing the wrong thing for the wrong reason. He believes he is doing what Neo wanted. Neo did not want the Matrix destroyed and all of humanity out of the pods. He saw that this would be impossible, and in the end disasterous. He secured a future with more choice and freedom than any of you could have hoped to get through your foolish actions.

You have your facts wrong again:

Neo : I know you're out there...I can feel you now. I know that

you're afraid. You're afraid of us, you're afraid of

change...I don't know the future...I didn't come here to

tell you how this is going to end, I came here to tell you

how this is going to begin. Now, I'm going to hang up

this phone, and I'm going to show these people what you

don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world

without you...a world without rules and controls, without

borders or boundaries. A world...where anything is

possible.

We travel down a phone line, as we see that Neo is in a phone box.

Neo : Where we go from there...is a choice I leave to you...

**oranos**

Of course I'm wrong if you look at it from that time. Is it not possible for a man to change his views? By the time of his final confrontation with Smith, Neo believed that Machines needed to survive as well as humans. I believe, though having never known the man I could be wrong, that he started to see this when he met Sati's parents. He saw that Machines were capable of emotion just as humans were. I do not think he secured the truce simply because there was no other way. I believe he did it for both human and machine alike.

**Twaggy**

Choice always has a result... Cause and Effect, you take the red pill, you are gods among the blue pills. You join EPN, you become hunted. You join the Machines, you get a sexy Agent. You join Zion, you get the numbers. And if you join us? well that's just great taste.

In other words, it was their choice to take the pill from day one, it was their choice of which group to follow, it was their choice to join a group who prey upon the weak like terrorists, and it was their choice to follow the others who plant the bombs, therefore choosing to be in the situation of being hunted down like dogs. EPN is not what it intended to be, and the ones who were not invovled with the bombing are just a responsible as the ones who were cause you CHOOSE to stay with the group.

Cause and Effect at it's best I would say, no?

**Madbent**

ML will always stand ready to assist the EPN organization.

**Yasamuu**

I was pleasantly suprised by the friendly and co-operative Insurgence at a meeting last night. Although the meeting was arranged in deceptive circumstances, we can understand that...it was good to see perhaps a shining light? in the EPN org...and perhaps it has shown me that i have been to general in my assumptions that ALL EPN are just intent on terrorising the blissfully sleeping blue pills...truely their actions were a credit to themselves and their leader Hydrazine. I personally, unless things have changed in the 18 hours since i last jacked in, will be upholding this ceasefire on insurgence members set by Systematica.

SonuvaDevil

xTruthx104 ... you shall be avenged. All...all EPN members who have been matyred will not be forgotten. Your faces burn bright fueling my rage...Systemmatic Chaos...grrrrrr

Regulus

When Neo had the machines by the balls, did he chose to free them? No, he knew that would have been the end of humanity.

The matrix is the only way.

Stuza

Target eliminated under orders from Sytematica.

**Iamthesuperbeast**

poop is 46 now? /golfclap

revamp

Machines lack the basic emotions to experience greed. Exiles, like myself, do what we must to survive, basic instinc. If a Merovingian operative possess any greed, it is that to maintain his/her existence. EPN and other Zions alike are the only ones capable of knowing Greed. Its the Zions whom want to take the life away from the machines, the life away from myself and my fellow exiles. It is Zion whom terrorizes Bluepills and awakens them from the sweet sleep to the harsh reality of the real world. Real? What makes the "real world" so much more real than the Matrix? The fact that humans live hundreds of miles beneath the war torn surface of the earth? The fact that they sruggle to survive day by day? Man chose to destroy this world. It was because of greed that man had attacked the peaceful machines in their isolated world. Funny, man created the first machines out of the greed of business, then tried to destroy them, once again out of greed. It was man that scorched the sky; because if they couldnt have this world all to themselves, then noone could. Machines have given life back to man. Given a world of peace, a world of bliss. The Machines have given me a world. Though we may be enemies at times, I still need them to survive. Zion hs given me nothing. And if Zion wants to flex the powers of greed upon the Matrix, then i can only see one answer. To eliminate all...
-Novix