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Matriculated Mind

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Tommy wasnt ready,

He was rushed along way to quick, to fast.  There isnt a need to push things towards him so soon as what was happing when I was there and why I jacked out. I wasnt going to be part of operatives trying to force it along and keep throwing question after question at him. Sometimes it is better to back off, let them ponder and work as a team not a individual to help them along when and if they are ready or show signs they are.

 

It will be interesting on how he adapts. If he does, will he stay with us? Or turn on us? How do we know he was ready for the right reasons.

 

Lonely, tired of life, ready to quit and leave everything behind? Hmm sounds like someone that doesnt want to leave the matrix to me i.e cypherites.

 

IMO -- Sidonae was right, she needs to go with her feelings and instincts, I am sure he was overwhelmed like she thought and for that I apologize to him. In future endeavors she needs to tell us what she thinks is needed. As he said, She was the only one that wasnt making him feel uncomfortable by asking relentless questions upon questions.




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Yes, you are right.. Bluepills should never feel pressured into the decision of taking the red pill.. It is hard to balance the desire to reach out to a potential, but yet keep the realization in front of us at all times that not every human being will be ready as soon as some of us may want them to be. Some may never reach that point, as a matter of fact.
And yet, we must continually strive to reach out to those who do truly seek to free themselves from the deception of the simulation. It is only when every human being has the opportunity to make that choice in a fully aware state, that all humans will be truly free in every sense of the word.


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Catalyn wrote:
It is only when every human being has the opportunity to make that choice in a fully aware state, that all humans will be truly free in every sense of the word.

Even if it kills them. Dependency on the system can't be 'cured' by a pill.


Jacked Out

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Vinia wrote:
Catalyn wrote:
It is only when every human being has the opportunity to make that choice in a fully aware state, that all humans will be truly free in every sense of the word.

Even if it kills them. Dependency on the system can't be 'cured' by a pill.

No, but it can be cured through other means. Just taking a little longer to fix the Machines mistakes, since we have such short sighted individuals assisting the Machines.


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Tosuno wrote:
No, but it can be cured through other means. Just taking a little longer to fix the Machines mistakes, since we have such short sighted individuals assisting the Machines.
Perhaps a glimpse within one's self would be prudent before deciding to point fingers. It may also reveal that Machinists aren't as short sighted as you believe.


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Vinia wrote:
Perhaps a glimpse within one's self would be prudent before deciding to point fingers. It may also reveal that Machinists aren't as short sighted as you believe.


Oh, so you're very certain the idea of "perserving" humankind in a failing and unstable computer program is the way to go then?

If you love the system so much, that's fine. But, not every one shares that love. And I'm sure if those within the pods were wllowed the freedom to know exactly what their "reality" was, many of them would not share the same feelings the Machinists feel. But, we'll never know for sure so long as you... people, keep them as no more then an energy source.



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Tosuno wrote:
Vinia wrote:
Perhaps a glimpse within one's self would be prudent before deciding to point fingers. It may also reveal that Machinists aren't as short sighted as you believe.


Oh, so you're very certain the idea of "perserving" humankind in a failing and unstable computer program is the way to go then?

If you love the system so much, that's fine. But, not every one shares that love. And I'm sure if those within the pods were wllowed the freedom to know exactly what their "reality" was, many of them would not share the same feelings the Machinists feel. But, we'll never know for sure so long as you... people, keep them as no more then an energy source.

I believe you are confusing Machinists with Cypherites. As I said, perhaps you should open your eyes a bit more.
You are right though many of them wouldn't share the same feelings as Machinists or Cyphs, or Zion, EPN, Merv... As I said they are dependant on the simulation, ripping a hole in their reality would most likely kill them. That's why Zion had rules about waking potentials up before a certain age. Rules which must have gone out of the window, risking the bluepills life just to get another person to wake up.

Message edited by Croesis on 06/22/2008 03:40:40.


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Vinia wrote:
Tosuno wrote:
Vinia wrote:
Perhaps a glimpse within one's self would be prudent before deciding to point fingers. It may also reveal that Machinists aren't as short sighted as you believe.


Oh, so you're very certain the idea of "perserving" humankind in a failing and unstable computer program is the way to go then?

If you love the system so much, that's fine. But, not every one shares that love. And I'm sure if those within the pods were wllowed the freedom to know exactly what their "reality" was, many of them would not share the same feelings the Machinists feel. But, we'll never know for sure so long as you... people, keep them as no more then an energy source.

I believe you are confusing Machinists with Cypherites. As I said, perhaps you should open your eyes a bit more.
You are right though many of them wouldn't share the same feelings as Machinists or Cyphs, or Zion, EPN, Merv... As I said they are dependant on the simulation, ripping a hole in their reality would most likely kill them. That's why Zion had rules about waking potentials up before a certain age. Rules which must have gone out of the window, risking the bluepills life just to get another person to wake up.

They are still in place, it just seems as if the System decided to hide all the children minus Sati away from everyones eyes.

((RPing game mechanics FTL!))




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GamiSB wrote:
They are still in place, it just seems as if the System decided to hide all the children minus Sati away from everyones eyes.

((RPing game mechanics FTL!))

((He was a high school teacher. There's hiding behind the games shortfalls for arguments sake and then there is trying to use reasonable RP to get around the shortfalls. Personally, I would see past the obvious issues if it was reported that he was a student. As far as I'm aware there was not set age for it, but it can be reasonably assumed that it's around school age.))

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Vinia wrote:
GamiSB wrote:
They are still in place, it just seems as if the System decided to hide all the children minus Sati away from everyones eyes.

((RPing game mechanics FTL!))

((He was a high school teacher. There's hiding behind the games shortfalls for arguments sake and then there is trying to use reasonable RP to get around the shortfalls. Personally, I would see past the obvious issues if it was reported that he was a student. As far as I'm aware there was not set age for it, but it can be reasonably assumed that it's around school age.))

((oh no I do realize that he was was older in this case and every other case that's been put on these boards ever. I was only pointing out that it is impossible to RP in game anything but someone over the age and the only way to RP anyone younger is to do it in writing or have a very open minded audience(which is almost impossible these days). So your left with having events like these being centered around older (Well past the set age) adults and not children. So yes the rule is probably still there, its just the limitations game wise only allow us to focus on everyone that is over that set age))

Message edited by GamiSB on 06/22/2008 10:20:21.



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GamiSB wrote:
((oh no I do realize that he was was older in this case and every other case that's been put on these boards ever. I was only pointing out that it is impossible to RP in game anything but someone over the age and the only way to RP anyone younger is to do it in writing or have a very open minded audience(which is almost impossible these days). So your left with having events like these being centered around older (Well past the set age) adults and not children. So yes the rule is probably still there, its just the limitations game wise only allow us to focus on everyone that is over that set age))
((I suppose it is down to the audience. As I said I'd be able to RP around the subsequent issues, but you're right, there are a lot of people who may not be able to do that. /shrug))


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Status report: Bill Talbot

 

Bill Talbot is a grocery store owner in Tabor Park.  He considers himself a loner, and seldom leaves home at night unless he has to. He says this is due to gang activity in the area, but the truth is he much rather be playing computer games then going out with friends. The few people who claim to know him well state that he is a gaming addict.

Bill has been divorced for two years, and has no children.  He has occasional contact with his siblings, but considers them to be more bother then what they are worth. If someone were to ask him what he considers important in life, he would say something to the effect that taking care of himself comes first, and everything else is just secondary so far as he is concerned. He has become aware of some inconsistencies in the simulation as of late. Approach him with caution.




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Is this something that Zion's can take part in helping? I will then forward the message to our faction.

MindsweepX - The Black Code




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Certainly.. All Zion and EPN operatives are asked to make contact and assess his state of mind.



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Catalyn wrote:

Certainly.. All Zion and EPN operatives are asked to make contact and assess his state of mind.


I will let our faction know of this.


 
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