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Systemic Anomaly

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its really simple..if your not fighting have your block tactics on. have different clothes on different hotbars with proper hypers. if you get attacked by a sniper back away...switch clothes and hyper and attack. same goes for any build. and for godsake if your getting killed by some build alot then figure out a good defense or strategy to kill it and practice it until your good.

theres no build in this game i cant beat with anyother build in this game. thats mostly just 3+ years of experience and trial and error. and of course that dosent include fights against people that are really good and experienced with their build. but its plenty good enough to survive pvp and not have these pathetic complaints to gripe about.

all of the trees in this game are good and bad. just have to make the good work for you and do what you can to prevent the bad from killing you.




Ascendent Logic

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exsuscito wrote:

As much as I despise the MxO'isms of choice for the hardcore vocalist (Noob, L2ROOT, OMGEPICPWNAGE, et al), there's one that's startlingly relevant to this thread.

'Learn to play'.

I don't mean that in a disparaging/baiting manner, and I'm certainly not trying to 'impart wisdom', I just see way too much complaining about things that a) You cannot change b) You can change your own build, to combat.  There will always be MKT's, there will always be Snipers.  There will always be those who base their PvP tactics on premise of Staggering Throw - HJ, or Sniper Shot - HJ = win.  *CENSORED* at them, complain at them, use your X-fire contacts to vent about them, but don't expect things to be changed because of it.  It's just not feasible. 

A team of MKT's or/and Snipers is boring as the ensuing PvP usually consists of everyone walking around in sneak, someone runs into someone else and attacks, game over two minutes later.  However, it's their prerogative to use that build, and it's up to you to combat it.  If there's no way to, then you'll just have to accept that you can't and move on.  They'll get bored eventually and switch to something else.  If you have an entire team going against them, dust off Howitzer/Vector, get the pretty debuffs flying and enjoy your victories. 

My point is that bitching/complaining/trashing at them will not get them dead.  Adapt, and kill someone enough at their chosen build and you may just demoralise them enough into switching builds.  That's all part of PvP.  If you've forced the opposition into changing tactics, then you're very much on top.



darkhaze wrote:

its really simple..if your not fighting have your block tactics on. have different clothes on different hotbars with proper hypers. if you get attacked by a sniper back away...switch clothes and hyper and attack. same goes for any build. and for godsake if your getting killed by some build alot then figure out a good defense or strategy to kill it and practice it until your good.

theres no build in this game i cant beat with anyother build in this game. thats mostly just 3+ years of experience and trial and error. and of course that dosent include fights against people that are really good and experienced with their build. but its plenty good enough to survive pvp and not have these pathetic complaints to gripe about.

all of the trees in this game are good and bad. just have to make the good work for you and do what you can to prevent the bad from killing you.


Thank GOD two voices of truth and reason popped up!  These threads really get me upset...   Well spoken, both of you!




Perceptive Mind

Joined: Oct 1, 2006
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machete wrote:
exsuscito wrote:

As much as I despise the MxO'isms of choice for the hardcore vocalist (Noob, L2ROOT, OMGEPICPWNAGE, et al), there's one that's startlingly relevant to this thread.

'Learn to play'.

I don't mean that in a disparaging/baiting manner, and I'm certainly not trying to 'impart wisdom', I just see way too much complaining about things that a) You cannot change b) You can change your own build, to combat.  There will always be MKT's, there will always be Snipers.  There will always be those who base their PvP tactics on premise of Staggering Throw - HJ, or Sniper Shot - HJ = win.  *CENSORED* at them, complain at them, use your X-fire contacts to vent about them, but don't expect things to be changed because of it.  It's just not feasible. 

A team of MKT's or/and Snipers is boring as the ensuing PvP usually consists of everyone walking around in sneak, someone runs into someone else and attacks, game over two minutes later.  However, it's their prerogative to use that build, and it's up to you to combat it.  If there's no way to, then you'll just have to accept that you can't and move on.  They'll get bored eventually and switch to something else.  If you have an entire team going against them, dust off Howitzer/Vector, get the pretty debuffs flying and enjoy your victories. 

My point is that bitching/complaining/trashing at them will not get them dead.  Adapt, and kill someone enough at their chosen build and you may just demoralise them enough into switching builds.  That's all part of PvP.  If you've forced the opposition into changing tactics, then you're very much on top.



darkhaze wrote:

its really simple..if your not fighting have your block tactics on. have different clothes on different hotbars with proper hypers. if you get attacked by a sniper back away...switch clothes and hyper and attack. same goes for any build. and for godsake if your getting killed by some build alot then figure out a good defense or strategy to kill it and practice it until your good.

theres no build in this game i cant beat with anyother build in this game. thats mostly just 3+ years of experience and trial and error. and of course that dosent include fights against people that are really good and experienced with their build. but its plenty good enough to survive pvp and not have these pathetic complaints to gripe about.

all of the trees in this game are good and bad. just have to make the good work for you and do what you can to prevent the bad from killing you.


Thank GOD two voices of truth and reason popped up!  These threads really get me upset...   Well spoken, both of you!

No kidding.




Systemic Anomaly

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There'll always be arguments, and probably, never any real solutions to these issues. People have to vent about them. Which is fair enough in my view. Most of the time I see where they're coming from, especially with regards to MKT. But the sad fact is, it'll always probably be that way...



Jacked Out

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This game is easy as *CENSORED*, I don't care what tree you're using, nuff said.


Systemic Anomaly

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how would uk u never play lol



Systemic Anomaly

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As many of u's have said, change tree and tactics, yeah i know that SMILEY Its not the trees theirselfs i'm annoyed about, its the amount of players using these said trees. I know how to play and can beat pretty much any tree in a 1 on 1. Its just when u have a full team of sneakers, it ain't fun at all but meh i'v just started loggin now anyhoos, just the same as every1 else. I even log out when its a full team of sneaks with mervs (not that this happens that much anyhoos.

p.s. Smoke, u'r mkt, of course u find the game easy SMILEY Thats the whole point of this thread that so many people prefer to pick their targets (usin the easier trees) instead of jumpin down and kickin arse with MA or guns SMILEY

MA FTMFW


Femme Fatale

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Hey what about Hacks... They don't hide ussually.



Systemic Anomaly

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point is we could all *CENSORED* about every *CENSORED* tree in game

 
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