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Post by 9mmfu here;

It some times amazes me that simply because a dev doesn't put their stamp of disapproval on something before a player will go hrmm "that doesn't seem right perhaps I shouldn't do it"...

Anyways switching tactics in the same round to gain the benefit of both in the given round is indeed a bug and an exploit.

So you have been warned.

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My concern is: if it in fact deemed an exploit, how are we supposed to tell if they are or aren't doing so? We can't see what tactics the player is using. There'll be an uproar of people making CCR tickets if they get beat in PVP, and devs will be taking action off of hearsay evidance.

Thoughts??

bring back CR1, that would fix all the design flaws that were introduced with CR2 that cannot be fixed with out another combat system revamp.

Other than that, if this is an exploit, I suggest a dev come out and say its ok to do, other wise you've just killed several of your MA and gunmen tree's in the game because you completely ruin the state specials if you wont allow a person to flip back to power after they've set up their special.

Other than that, if this is an exploit, I suggest a dev come out and say its ok to do, other wise you've just killed several of your MA and gunmen tree's in the game because you completely ruin the state specials if you wont allow a person to flip back to power after they've set up their special.

Just quoting this here a second; 

The short answer is probably but that isn't desired because of the speed with which the server runs through your combat a player would almost never click in the small window of opportunity between the end of one round and the beginning of the next to change tactics which would mean in effect you would be stuck in a tactic you started interlock with.

In effect only the tactic you have at the start of an interlock round should apply to that round. This isn't happening which is why its a bug.

So do we have any other solution to the bug, 9mm? Because it's currently messing the entire system up as an exploit. Is there a way to 'lock' tactics in place? Would that have to go through QA? Will we have to wait for a hotfix for it? Any ideas?

Roukan wrote:

So if I fire off an ability, press block when the green circle comes, and it does one damage to a lower level.. that's an exploit? :o It would be, if switching to power is.

I think since it doesn't give an advantage I think you can say that it's not an exploit to switch to block I use punt and block to do 1pts damage punts, personally it's not very advantageous. unless you get an advantage by taking your opponents health down one at a time.

pack-hunter wrote:

Roukan wrote:

So if I fire off an ability, press block when the green circle comes, and it does one damage to a lower level.. that's an exploit? :o It would be, if switching to power is.

I think since it doesn't give an advantage I think you can say that it's not an exploit to switch to block I use punt and block to do 1pts damage punts, personally it's not very advantageous. unless you get an advantage by taking your opponents health down one at a time.

Its still a bugger of a bug in PvE. I for one hate it when npcs hit me with 1dmg, its just silly, ugly and reminds me of the situation the game exists in.

cloudwolf wrote:

pack-hunter wrote:

Roukan wrote:

So if I fire off an ability, press block when the green circle comes, and it does one damage to a lower level.. that's an exploit? :o It would be, if switching to power is.

I think since it doesn't give an advantage I think you can say that it's not an exploit to switch to block I use punt and block to do 1pts damage punts, personally it's not very advantageous. unless you get an advantage by taking your opponents health down one at a time.

Its still a bugger of a bug in PvE. I for one hate it when npcs hit me with 1dmg, its just silly, ugly and reminds me of the situation the game exists in.

NPCs can't control tactic switching. We can =/

Honestly I don't see what the big deal is.  Everyone does it, nobody cares except for the people who take PvP too seriously.

Chill.

Considering the stacking exploits, this is the least of our worries. 

Considering the stacking exploits, this is the least of our worries. 

Honestly I don't see what the big deal is.  Everyone does it, nobody cares except for the people who take PvP too seriously.

Chill.

Considering the stacking exploits, this is the least of our worries. 

As has been said before who cares?

It's too accepted now, most who don't do it are told to do it, or get laughed at as noobs. Low levels are taught to do it.

The fact of the matter is, its part of the game now, no matter how much people moan.

TH

It's not an idle moan, it's a genuine concern based on a hard truth. 

The simple fact is that switching tactics is seen as an exploit, whether you like it or not.  Low levels should not be taught how to do it, those who laugh at others who don't use are just attempting to justify its use, and it should never be accepted just because it's 'been around a while'.  It's precisely this pack-mentality that's the problem - The "They use it so why can't I?" justification.

Once again, it has been deemed an e.x.p.l.o.i.t.  If you're caught using it, you will have no cause to complain. 

ThHidden01 wrote:

As has been said before who cares?

It's too accepted now, most who don't do it are told to do it, or get laughed at as noobs. Low levels are taught to do it.

The fact of the matter is, its part of the game now, no matter how much people moan.

TH

It's not an idle moan, it's a genuine concern based on a hard truth. 

The simple fact is that switching tactics is seen as an exploit, whether you like it or not.  Low levels should not be taught how to do it, those who laugh at others who don't use are just attempting to justify its use, and it should never be accepted just because it's 'been around a while'.  It's precisely this pack-mentality that's the problem - The "They use it so why can't I?" justification.

Once again, it has been deemed an e.x.p.l.o.i.t.  If you're caught using it, you will have no cause to complain. 

Come to think of it, i remember 9mm saying a long time ago. Swiching tactics before using a Ability to get higher damage is a exploit. Or someone told me that, one of the two.

 As we can see. It would take too must work to get this fixed. I mean, 9mmfu can't fix the hole thing by his self. Because it would be too much work to do. Having to re-do most of the combat system and all. Might aswell make a CR.3 if so. :/

 All of us really have used this "tactic switching" from when Cr2 hit the live servers. And it looks like it isn't going to change.

So, everyone will keep on using this anyways. And i mean, if someone does ccr you for doing this. Man, they must be a real A-class *CENSORED* hole. Because EVERYONE uses this.