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Systemic Anomaly

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It's a bit more complex than that, in xp the indoor lag is reduced to a single spike as you go through the doors of many buildings, once inside things are fine........ that is with the exception of certain buildings, the easiest example is the bar directly ahead of the Appolyon NW HL, unplayably laggy inside that room yet I can go to Centre Park club Janus (a notoriously laggy room) and have no problems.... maybe certain objects are to blame, the pool tables always catch my eyes....



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Tytanya_MxO wrote:
It's a bit more complex than that, in xp the indoor lag is reduced to a single spike as you go through the doors of many buildings, once inside things are fine........ that is with the exception of certain buildings, the easiest example is the bar directly ahead of the Appolyon NW HL, unplayably laggy inside that room yet I can go to Centre Park club Janus (a notoriously laggy room) and have no problems.... maybe certain objects are to blame, the pool tables always catch my eyes....
Actually, I believe it's just facing doors that can cause the lag. That tells me there's a problem in drawing portals, where the area behind the door isn't being rendered properly, and the transparency layer in the door object itself isn't playing nice with the GPU.



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From Techpowerup.com

Users with all kinds of setups have been reporting problems, affecting some GeForce 8800 cards, and particularly the GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB. According to users from NVIDIA, eVGA, NVNews, Rage3F and Guru of 3D forums, the problem causes random slowdowns, often halving frame rates until the user alt-tabs out of the game and back in again. The problem doesn't appear to be tied to any particular hardware configuration, Windows version, or display setting. NVIDIA Technical Marketing Director Nick Stam confirmed today that NVIDIA is aware of this issue, and new drivers will be released some time in July to fix the problem.


So I'd try alt-tabbing.  Try looking for answers in places other than the MxO forums and they might reveal themselves.

Message edited by Paradox on 07/20/2007 16:27:35.



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Problem with that is the game's graphics become entirely corrupted when Alt-Tabbing to the desktop and back. This happens on XP and Vista.



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Symmetric wrote:
Problem with that is the game's graphics become entirely corrupted when Alt-Tabbing to the desktop and back. This happens on XP and Vista.

Although this is true, if you alter the resolution in game the problems seem to sort themselves (I flip between 1920x1200 and 1920x1080 etc)



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Desc1ple wrote:
So I'd try alt-tabbing.  Same thing for that Mech Liaison on Recursion.  Try looking for answers in places other than the MxO forums and they might reveal themselves.
Has anyone tried this yet? I don't really want to reinstall XP again just to try this out. :p

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Corrupted graphics after 'alt-tab'ing is a game issue. When you alt-tab out windows loads into memory, if the game doesn't expressly detect losing and gaining focus then it can't reload the textures. I suspect that with Vista's Aero interface using the 3d card quite heavily that this effect would only be magnified under Vista.

Basically, when you alt-tab out to Windows the game loses exclusive control of the video-memory. If the game doesn't re-load the textures it needs when you alt-tab back then there is no guarantee what will be in memory.




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Phi, that wasn't what I was asking about. :p

As I quoted, it was recommended that the lag problem could be resolved by alt-tabbing out of the game and then back in again. I'm on Vista right now and don't want to reinstall XP to test this out, so if anyone with an 8800 can try it and see if it does indeed work, it would be most appreciated.



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Symmetric wrote:
Phi, that wasn't what I was asking about. :p

As I quoted, it was recommended that the lag problem could be resolved by alt-tabbing out of the game and then back in again. I'm on Vista right now and don't want to reinstall XP to test this out, so if anyone with an 8800 can try it and see if it does indeed work, it would be most appreciated.


Here is an update on my situation.  I run windows xp pro with dual 8800 GTX Cards and have this same problem, exactly as described above.  (with the lag clearing up immediately after exiting the building)

I have tried alt-tabbing, swapping between windowed mode and fullscreen, swapping between sli mode/single, turning off/on every ingame graphic setting, and tried the past 4 released drivers (including the most current xp beta driver). 

None of these have any effect for me. 

Very frustrating for a new user.  The game seems great but if this stays the way it is I won't be able to justify playing/continiung my subscription. 

I have no performance problems with any other game and I have played just about every PC game you can think of on this box flawlessly.

 Anyone who finds a temporary fix or the exact nature of the problem shout out so we can get this resolved! SMILEY



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No it doesnt work and certain indoor areas are completely unplayable with the card...... By and large I am pretty underwhelmed with the 8800's as a whole, barely an improvement over my old x1950 and 3 times the cost so I am seriously thinking of going back to ATI.



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I'm still running on two X1950 XTXs in crossfire and everything is fine...

But I am building on a new system wit 8800s and will just keep playing on the old sys until these issues get taken care of ...


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doctor_tiki wrote:

Here is an update on my situation.  I run windows xp pro with dual 8800 GTX Cards and have this same problem, exactly as described above.  (with the lag clearing up immediately after exiting the building)

I have tried alt-tabbing, swapping between windowed mode and fullscreen, swapping between sli mode/single, turning off/on every ingame graphic setting, and tried the past 4 released drivers (including the most current xp beta driver). 

None of these have any effect for me. 

Very frustrating for a new user.  The game seems great but if this stays the way it is I won't be able to justify playing/continiung my subscription. 

I have no performance problems with any other game and I have played just about every PC game you can think of on this box flawlessly.

 Anyone who finds a temporary fix or the exact nature of the problem shout out so we can get this resolved! SMILEY

Another update!  I installed Vista on a separate hard drive and the indoor lag all goes away.  Of course then I get new graphical bugs to replace the lag.  I give up SMILEY



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doctor_tiki wrote:
doctor_tiki wrote:

Here is an update on my situation.  I run windows xp pro with dual 8800 GTX Cards and have this same problem, exactly as described above.  (with the lag clearing up immediately after exiting the building)

I have tried alt-tabbing, swapping between windowed mode and fullscreen, swapping between sli mode/single, turning off/on every ingame graphic setting, and tried the past 4 released drivers (including the most current xp beta driver). 

None of these have any effect for me. 

Very frustrating for a new user.  The game seems great but if this stays the way it is I won't be able to justify playing/continiung my subscription. 

I have no performance problems with any other game and I have played just about every PC game you can think of on this box flawlessly.

 Anyone who finds a temporary fix or the exact nature of the problem shout out so we can get this resolved! SMILEY

Another update!  I installed Vista on a separate hard drive and the indoor lag all goes away.  Of course then I get new graphical bugs to replace the lag.  I give up SMILEY

Yeah MxO has some issues with Vista... =/


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Nvidia released new drivers today.

ForceWare 162.18 for Windows XP 32-bit: http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_162.18.html
ForceWare 162.22 for Windows Vista 32-bit: http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvis...x86_162.22.html

Please download and test these new drivers and report if anything has changed/improved/worsened.



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Symmetric wrote:
Nvidia released new drivers today.

ForceWare 162.18 for Windows XP 32-bit: http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_162.18.html
ForceWare 162.22 for Windows Vista 32-bit: http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvis...x86_162.22.html

Please download and test these new drivers and report if anything has changed/improved/worsened.

  Doesn't seem like anythings improved indoors.. still a lag fest.

Message edited by Kybutra on 07/26/2007 14:15:33.

 
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