broin wrote:Well that's what I'm saying old man... I've got an all out viral accuracy loadout and all out viral accuracy clothing loadout and still even with that I was bouncing things like crazy. I know that MA's are suppoused to be resistant to hackers and I've got no problem with that. In fact I think I was the one who said that Serene Calme and the hyper-deflect should stack, and they should. However, it seems like it's way to easy for these guys nowadays to be able to just throw up any type of MA build and be untouchable by a hacker. In that same theme I should therefore be able to run with just about any of my hacker builds and be untouchable by MKT's. I'd say if it has to be left as is then give me something to counter it. Make some of my abilities that for some reason debuff melee and balistic defense/resistance debuff viral intead. Like Miasma, overload, overheat etc. I mean come on when a Single MA can jump into a group of 2-3 hackers and systematically kill one after another something is wrong. Or when they are so *CENSORED* confident and cocky that they can stroll /walk up to you why you waste your IS on them with full viral accuracy.... Well that kind of crap shouldn't be happening in game. No one tree should be untouchable against another Broin, for one thing I know I pissed you off a bit but tbh it was 4-5 on 1 and I didn't see the point in fighting. So I popped what def I could and block tactics and tried not to die. MKT's and gunmen were missing a fair bit too. However, you and Illface could not touch me. Nor could I touch you - as soon as I fought I got ganked, I could only just get ILL in 1v1 and even then I died too. Think of it like loading master shadow......
Well that's what I'm saying old man... I've got an all out viral accuracy loadout and all out viral accuracy clothing loadout and still even with that I was bouncing things like crazy. I know that MA's are suppoused to be resistant to hackers and I've got no problem with that. In fact I think I was the one who said that Serene Calme and the hyper-deflect should stack, and they should. However, it seems like it's way to easy for these guys nowadays to be able to just throw up any type of MA build and be untouchable by a hacker. In that same theme I should therefore be able to run with just about any of my hacker builds and be untouchable by MKT's. I'd say if it has to be left as is then give me something to counter it. Make some of my abilities that for some reason debuff melee and balistic defense/resistance debuff viral intead. Like Miasma, overload, overheat etc. I mean come on when a Single MA can jump into a group of 2-3 hackers and systematically kill one after another something is wrong. Or when they are so *CENSORED* confident and cocky that they can stroll /walk up to you why you waste your IS on them with full viral accuracy.... Well that kind of crap shouldn't be happening in game. No one tree should be untouchable against another
Well that's what I'm saying old man... I've got an all out viral accuracy loadout and all out viral accuracy clothing loadout and still even with that I was bouncing things like crazy. I know that MA's are suppoused to be resistant to hackers and I've got no problem with that. In fact I think I was the one who said that Serene Calme and the hyper-deflect should stack, and they should.
However, it seems like it's way to easy for these guys nowadays to be able to just throw up any type of MA build and be untouchable by a hacker. In that same theme I should therefore be able to run with just about any of my hacker builds and be untouchable by MKT's.
I'd say if it has to be left as is then give me something to counter it. Make some of my abilities that for some reason debuff melee and balistic defense/resistance debuff viral intead. Like Miasma, overload, overheat etc.
I mean come on when a Single MA can jump into a group of 2-3 hackers and systematically kill one after another something is wrong. Or when they are so *CENSORED* confident and cocky that they can stroll /walk up to you why you waste your IS on them with full viral accuracy.... Well that kind of crap shouldn't be happening in game. No one tree should be untouchable against another
I'd like to bump this thread to let you know that there is a bug with not only viral attacks but also freefire and knife attacks where an opponent (both player and NPC) deflects or dodges every single viral/freefire/knife attack thrown at them. I can tell you that it is based on the geometrical/world positions of both the attacker and the victim. I've had this happen several times and it's very hard to repro. In several mission areas, I couldn't hit an NPC at all while we were in the same room, and I had to coax it out of that room in order to hit it with knife attacks. It also could not hit me with any of its hacker attacks while in that room. I've also seen this situation happen with people sitting on or standing near one of the Mara C benches who seem to be completely invulnerable to viral attacks, which is just silly.
