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Mainframe Invader

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I never really understood why we are only able to stack Hyperdeflect with another hyper of choice, it'd make sense from a balance stand point if hackers were as overpowered as they were CR1 but I believe they're pretty balanced now. Anyone else think that we should be able to stack two hypers of choice?



Vindicator

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I always thought we should be able to stack either Deflect or Sense with Dodge or Block.  Always felt that combo made the most sense.



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I believe now we should be able to, seeing as how accuracy with specials took such a hit in the recent patch. I rarely see hackers in pvp on recursion anyway.



Systemic Anomaly

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I agree too. But of course with people not running Hyper Deflect 24/7 hackers will "technically" become stronger, and then there will be the shouts for nerfs.



Jacked Out

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Nah, hackers will remain just as strong as they are now.  In a situation where you've got hackers running around, any reasonably intelligent person will throw up hyper deflect and then whatever other hyper he expects to need most anyway.



Mainframe Invader

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Fatmop wrote:

Nah, hackers will remain just as strong as they are now.  In a situation where you've got hackers running around, any reasonably intelligent person will throw up hyper deflect and then whatever other hyper he expects to need most anyway.

You could always surprise them with Vector, the fight will just go downhill from there. SMILEY

Like I said in Ask a Dev thread, allowing us to load two hypers of choice will make everyone. It will help hackers because everybody and their grannies won't have hyperdeflect running and it will give more complete defenses which can adapt better to different situations to the other players.



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krytical wrote:
Fatmop wrote:

Nah, hackers will remain just as strong as they are now.  In a situation where you've got hackers running around, any reasonably intelligent person will throw up hyper deflect and then whatever other hyper he expects to need most anyway.

You could always surprise them with Vector, the fight will just go downhill from there. SMILEY

Like I said in Ask a Dev thread, allowing us to load two hypers of choice will make everyone. It will help hackers because everybody and their grannies won't have hyperdeflect running and it will give more complete defenses which can adapt better to different situations to the other players.
This ideas whack dawg.


Fansite Operator

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Either two at a time or only one at a time, as long as the hyper defenses arn't unfairly biased towards nerfing one class over all others i'll be happy =P


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LoTekGhost wrote:
I always thought we should be able to stack either Deflect or Sense with Dodge or Block.  Always felt that combo made the most sense.
Considering how clothing buffs tend to work, this way seems to make the most sense.  Although having the choice of any two would be very nice. 

I don't think the hacker arguement is good enough to support keeping it how it is, better to balance hacker properly than bias Awakened against it. 



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/agrees with krytical


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trevon2005 wrote:
This ideas whack dawg.
Not really constructive criticism!

I agree with CloudWolf, as long as no one class gets nerfed to support this.


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trevon2005 wrote:
krytical wrote:
Fatmop wrote:

Nah, hackers will remain just as strong as they are now.  In a situation where you've got hackers running around, any reasonably intelligent person will throw up hyper deflect and then whatever other hyper he expects to need most anyway.

You could always surprise them with Vector, the fight will just go downhill from there. SMILEY

Like I said in Ask a Dev thread, allowing us to load two hypers of choice will make everyone. It will help hackers because everybody and their grannies won't have hyperdeflect running and it will give more complete defenses which can adapt better to different situations to the other players.
This ideas whack dawg.
That's not real talk, son. I like it.



Ascendent Logic

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LoTekGhost wrote:
I always thought we should be able to stack either Deflect or Sense with Dodge or Block.  Always felt that combo made the most sense.

I'd have to agree. This has been bothering me for a long time too.



Systemic Anomaly

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The ability to stack two hypers of choice is the best and fairest solution, it also adds another element of strategy/skill where the individual player makes the difference etc.

If there are balancing issues a work around could suggest that the net defense buff is different given a stacked use or an individual use ie use one hyper for 5% buff but 2 hypers give 3% each etc???



Code Breaker

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I would personally prefer to make them all exclusive from each other but due to technically issues that are not currently. This would force you to choose carefully which you have loaded and also provide a bit of boost to Hackers in that not everyone would be running around with it turned on.

 
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