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If that is really whidmore's intentions then this will mark the first time Ben has ever told the whole truth about something. There is definitely some other intention there, especially if this is being revealed now, with 2 and half more season left, and if they are still fighting in the future, ie Sayid killing off people for Ben.

So lets just assume things...

Mike is on the boat?

Hurley was in the casket?

Whidmore has some rediculous ties to Hanso?

 On a side note. A friend and I were discussing this and it seems that every person who has gotten off of the island is troubled by the fact that they are off. Hurley is going crazy and they keep checking to make sure he didn't tell any body. Jack is ok with it, but we've seen that with time he even contemplate suicide. Kate has arron for some reason, but there is tension between her and Jack because she has arron. and Sayid made some decision with his heart instead of his gun and now he is stuck working for Ben. We think that each of the people who have gotten of did it at the expense of another, possibly even directly being given the choice. Maybe even so drastic as "You get off, Sawyer dies." etc. Although I did like the thought that ben gets them off so that people stop searching for the island and those who get off are strategically chosen.



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I'm hoping there's more to the Widmore thing than we're being told. I mean, the guy seems to have more than enough money to throw around so it'd be kinda dumb if he went to all this trouble(and expense) to find an island so difficult to find, then again people with that kind of money tend to want only one thing: more money.

We saw, when Desmond was back in the past, Widmore buying a journal from the Black Rocks first mate the contents of which were only known by the Hanso family. I don't think Widmore was in league with the Hanso family, because Alvar Hanso is the CEO of the company that funded/funds Dharma. The CEO of the company that funded Dharma would know how to reach the island and would want to keep him away from it originally. I'm thinking maybe Widmore used the journal as a bargaining chip to find out from Alvar Hanso or perhaps when Dharma were wiped off the island, Alvar came to join forces with Widmore.

It looks like it's Michael on the boat, although the thought did cross my mind that it'd maybe be Walt.

Also, it said we'll find out the last of the Oceanic Six. Whats intreguing about that is the terminology used. Its quite plausible that they'll reveal two, and if they do, I'm expecting it to be Sun and Jin. Who seem to just keep living for the sake of having more marriage issues >_>


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Steelle wrote:

Whidmore has some rediculous ties to Hanso?


Yes.

Widmore and Paik Industries worked together to build an offshore platform for the Hanso Foundation.  There was an ARG attached to the show called the "Lost Experience", where you followed the workings of the Hanso Foundation and one of it's corrupted members, Thomas Mittelwerk.

Something y'all might find interesting...

 




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Ahh! Nice one.

Mittelwerk was actually in the Lost Video game, briefly. However, the shows writers said that the game can't be taken as canon(Quite right too, really). However, Lost Experience is considered canon.


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Wow so Jin is dead. Interesting twist in the tale, now I'm interested in what Michael is up to/how he came to be on the boat.



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Yeah, the way they twisted past/future in those flashes made the ending that much more potent. Still, that part is a shame. SMILEY



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That was a rather jaw dropping episode D:

I dunno whether to be happy or sad that I guessed it would be Michael on the boat. It'll be interesting to find out how he got there, and who's blood that was on the wall, the guy that went out with Minkowski on the dingy or something? I remember Minkowski said he went nuts. The way that doctor guy spoke it was as if the blood reappeared, either that or Michael's slacking on the cleaning SMILEY

The way they mixed up the flashes had me rather confused, but I think you're right Orexis, it made the ending a lot more effective.

So, I'm still wondering what the confirmed Oceanic 6 is. I guess Aaron has to become part of that? Maybe Jin dies after they get back and is one of the Oceanic 6 or maybe he's dead and is one of those whom Jack said survived the plane crash but not the Island itself. Still, Jin is not going to be the person that was in the casket at the end of season 3, I'm fairly sure of that.

Did it look like the female doctor taking Suns jewelery was Jins mom, maybe just a little younger looking though? It did to me (though, I'm not saying they're one in the same, they just looked a like, is all).

Kind of annoying how they killed off Regina and Minkowski so quickly too. SMILEY

 


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The whole 'cabin fever' thing is really creepy, people blowing their heads off, tying themselves in chains and jumping overboard... nuts. Also did anyone notice nearly all the shots on the boat seemed cinematicaly darker than the island? Like they were shot to seem much darker? Maybe just me...





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odj wrote:
The whole 'cabin fever' thing is really creepy, people blowing their heads off, tying themselves in chains and jumping overboard... nuts. Also did anyone notice nearly all the shots on the boat seemed cinematicaly darker than the island? Like they were shot to seem much darker? Maybe just me...


Aye, especially with the blood on the wall in that room. Kinda felt like Silent Hill, just a little.


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Yasamuu1 wrote:

That was a rather jaw dropping episode D:

I dunno whether to be happy or sad that I guessed it would be Michael on the boat. It'll be interesting to find out how he got there,

Well, i'm pretty sure we can gather that he's Ben's spy (and if not, that'll be another shocker/cliffhanger for a future episode) ... which will lead to a few questions, like what happened to Walt; What did Ben sucker him into to get him to change his name and spy on the boat (Why he looks so miserable SMILEY<img src=" /> ) ; and the fact that it's Mr. Whitmore's boat, and Penny knows nothing about it.

Then the staged plane wreckage, all those dead people acting as Flight 815... o.O  - So many 'why's!

Message edited by Orexis. on 03/14/2008 14:31:47.

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I don't think Jin's dead.  If you look on the gravestone on the date of his death, it's 9-22-2004...  which is the day Flight 815 crashed into the island.  I'm guessing that for whatever reason, the Oceanic Six left the island and the others are all still alive on it... 



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Fen wrote:
I don't think Jin's dead.  If you look on the gravestone on the date of his death, it's 9-22-2004...  which is the day Flight 815 crashed into the island.  I'm guessing that for whatever reason, the Oceanic Six left the island and the others are all still alive on it... 


Isn't that the day of the crash? I'm wondering if perhaps he's one of the two people who Jack said died after they survived the crash. At the same time, the way Sun cried out for Jin when she was in labour suggests perhaps he is stuck back on the Island.

I think maybe Ben has Walt and is using him to make Michael do it.

Another thing would be whether or not we should actually trust the captain. Presuming Michael slipped that note under the door "DON'T TRUST THE CAPTAIN", he doesn't really have a reason to lie to Sayeed and Desmond. Equally, we can't trust Ben, we should know that by now. To add even more weight to this theory, if Ben does have Walt, then Michael will obviously not be happy so even though he's Bens man on the boat, he shouldn't have any qualms telling Sayeed and Des not to trust the captains word IE: Perhaps it's not Widmores boat.

Also, someone made an interesting point to me the other day, I wonder what will happen in the future with the note Claire put on the seagull?


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Yasamuu1 wrote:
Another thing would be whether or not we should actually trust the captain. Presuming Michael slipped that note under the door "DON'T TRUST THE CAPTAIN", he doesn't really have a reason to lie to Sayeed and Desmond.
If anything we've learned with Lost its do not trust what anyone says (even the oceanic people) the captain was far to forthcoming with information. Personally I think he was trying to drive the story of Ben crashing the fake plane and the dead bodies into Sayid and Desmond to much almost like "Hey look here are the facts... he did it." but all the facts are wrong or something... something isn't right with that story. I still think Ben is 'one of the good guys'.



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Are they still on that friggin' island?
Message edited by Proximisio on 03/14/2008 18:09:23.



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Jin could also have faked his death and remarried or whatnot. No way to know for sure. =P

 

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