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Systemic Anomaly

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What is it?

All of this attention on the sleepwalkers has gotten me thinking about the Cypherites and the "re-insertion is not happening". There was a lot of griefing over this after Gray told Cryptos there was no chance. It killed a lot of Cyphs RP and, in fact, many of those who were blue-dyed-in-the-wool die hards still haven't returned to the game since that revelation.

Nowadays, the Cyphs are the murderous, radical arm of the Machines (if there are any RPers left among them). This seems kind of shallow to me. An organization that only exists for the sole purpose of destruction cannot sustain itself.

So, my question is, why can't the Cypherites keep "fighting' for reinsertion? I mean, just because Gray said it ain't happening, doesn't mean it ain't really happening. He could have been lying, and there is secretly a way to do it. Or, even if there is not, how about holding out hope agains the day that re-insertion is possible. After all, that's something the Machines would want too, right? 




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I still believe that Gray meant it was only not possible for Cryptos to be re-inserted as he is a human machine hybrid now. My character fights for the protection of the Matrix and the destruction of the Red Pill hippies. Once they are all dead, Ebola will either be re-inserted or just take a hover craft and see the sights of the destroyed earth before dieing and starving to death I suppose... woo go Blue Team!


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Do Not Disturb; Sleeping

 

Protect the pills who sleep, may they rest forever



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Hm, an organization solely devoted to destruction. Hm... one could argue the EPNs goals to disestablish the matrix, and destroy the machine/exile race is one of "destructive" merrit. Cypherites in my understanding, are now finding advances ways to prevent awakenings at all costs. This includes developing technology to disable redpill traces, coups to destroy threats to the matrix, while also having less red tape to go through then the Machines.

That is of course my observational standpoint.

Message edited by Tranque101 on 08/11/2008 10:10:50.



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Cypherites exist beyond the need for reinsertion.  It is true that the organization began with such desires but it has evolved from that narrow-minded thinking.  Only the selfish wish to be reinserted when there is an abundance of opportunity to oppose those who would reawaken us or anyone still dependent upon the Matrix.

Cypherites serve as the enforcers of the Machine empire.  Our goals are to strongly oppose Zion and E Pluribus Neo.  We seek to hinder awakenings and keep them from moving forward by any means necessary.  We are not like the machinists who seek peace with Zion or an end to the war.  Yes, we are murderers, terrorists and cutthroats.  It is our nature.  We rebel against the rebellion and wish for a world where the ungrateful worms of the earth perish for their treason against the Machine.

We are your opposite.  We hate everything you stand for.  We want to see you perish miserably.

 

 




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Yeah, I always saw reinsertion as the "light at the end of the tunnel" for us, our reward, not the cause we were fighting for. As Ebola sees it, she's been dead since she was awakened and she doesn't want others to suffer the same fate. So she does whatever it takes to destroy the hippies of Zion and EPN before its too late.


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Wixard wrote:

Cypherites exist beyond the need for reinsertion.  It is true that the organization began with such desires but it has evolved from that narrow-minded thinking.  Only the selfish wish to be reinserted when there is an abundance of opportunity to oppose those who would reawaken us or anyone still dependent upon the Matrix.

Cypherites serve as the enforcers of the Machine empire.  Our goals are to strongly oppose Zion and E Pluribus Neo.  We seek to hinder awakenings and keep them from moving forward by any means necessary.  We are not like the machinists who seek peace with Zion or an end to the war.  Yes, we are murderers, terrorists and cutthroats.  It is our nature.  We rebel against the rebellion and wish for a world where the ungrateful worms of the earth perish for their treason against the Machine.

We are your opposite.  We hate everything you stand for.  We want to see you perish miserably.

 

 

Ahem. You were saying, Tranque?

((Oooh, well played, well played! I just got goosebumps. Please tell me you're on Syntax, Wixard?))




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Why are you explaining to a Zionite why we exsist and do what we do? IMO if your not a cyph then you don't need to know our business. Yes I understand your curious from the storyline point but still. I mean what's the point of of bieng a cyph if your going to blab to others what your goal or the organizations goal is?



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Wixard wrote:

We are your opposite. We hate everything you stand for. We want to see you perish miserably.

 

 

I say no more.


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Grace of Darkness wrote:
Why are you explaining to a Zionite why we exsist and do what we do? IMO if your not a cyph then you don't need to know our business. Yes I understand your curious from the storyline point but still. I mean what's the point of of bieng a cyph if your going to blab to others what your goal or the organizations goal is?
yeah you're only a cyph when you dress like one in the RL!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Nicho wrote:
Wixard wrote:

We are your opposite. We hate everything you stand for. We want to see you perish miserably.

 

 

I say no more.
Weren't you EPN? Oh wait...



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The organizations goals vary from person to person and have shifted in many different directions over the years. At first reinsertion was a paramount goal of the Cypherite organization it's what Cryptos preached at the boxes that reinserting and submitting on a special level to machine control would be the best course of action for man kind. He felt living conditions were not applicable or realistic for human beings in the cave systems created by Zion.

Since than it was revealed over time through recordings of the process with Gray as well as the eventual exorsim from Seraph that Cryptos had been fully over written by the machines to help sociologicly control human beings without bypassing the truce. They felt this was not only a nessecary evil but even within the bounds of the truce due to it not activating direct aggressions from the over writer.

During this period Veil took a rather hostile negitotory approach towards the machine organization in one mission Cypherite's right after the revelation of Cryptos being overwritten Cypherites attack the Machinist operative with her in the room. There was alot of bitterness left within the organization after these things were revealed. I personally feel this bitterness has been brewing for years within the organization. People like Veil were not only used and swayed away from a rather honorable and revered job such as a crew member on the Novalis II. During this period she took matters into her own hands either attempting to socially manipulate the situation to her advantage or to salvage what little relevancy our organization had left by putting a foot down and telling the machine organization how it was. "If you want us to do your job for you were going to do it our way".

The Machines during this period felt it the safe choice to promote a return to leadership for Cryptos. They found Veil hard to read with her socially evasive nature and it bothered them. During the aprehension of Sarv a rogue operative on The Solstice Cryptos resumed command in a hostile and rather brash nature. He made it known "Im in charge here Toorima". At this point Veil made it known that if he ever called her that again that she would at least from what many of us picked up kill him she said. "If you ever call me that again Dearie all finish what Seraph started".

Since this time the organization has fought for the protection of bluepills... The real question is.. why?

Granted I am a very deep thinker and alot of times I put to much faith into the fictional universe but Im also good at picking up signs. I think the organization is headed towards its vindication. And I think Veil is headed towards her resolution of alot of brewing bitterness. At least these are the things I hope for I simply feel were at a cross roads.

 For anyone that thinks I am full of it I suggest you do reading on the early days of Cryptos attempt to listen to the mission recordings. I think Cryptos is going to surprise alot of people including his own.


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ShiXinFeng wrote:
All of this attention on the sleepwalkers has gotten me thinking about the Cypherites and the "re-insertion is not happening". There was a lot of griefing over this after Gray told Cryptos there was no chance. It killed a lot of Cyphs RP and, in fact, many of those who were blue-dyed-in-the-wool die hards still haven't returned to the game since that revelation.
What do you think Cryptos has been doing with his time?



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Cadsuane wrote:
ShiXinFeng wrote:
All of this attention on the sleepwalkers has gotten me thinking about the Cypherites and the "re-insertion is not happening". There was a lot of griefing over this after Gray told Cryptos there was no chance. It killed a lot of Cyphs RP and, in fact, many of those who were blue-dyed-in-the-wool die hards still haven't returned to the game since that revelation.
What do you think Cryptos has been doing with his time?
Neglecting his organizations social needs and alienating his second in command.


Systemic Anomaly

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Cadsuane wrote:
ShiXinFeng wrote:
All of this attention on the sleepwalkers has gotten me thinking about the Cypherites and the "re-insertion is not happening". There was a lot of griefing over this after Gray told Cryptos there was no chance. It killed a lot of Cyphs RP and, in fact, many of those who were blue-dyed-in-the-wool die hards still haven't returned to the game since that revelation.
What do you think Cryptos has been doing with his time?


Working on finding a way to keep the Machines from overwriting people, like what happened to him. Said so in a recent LE.

 


 
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