It disturbs me greatly to see that some Zionites believe they actually have "rights" and "authority" in the Matrix. Alexander was courteous enough to ask you to leave and instead you mock him. I hope you'll understand next time when they just open fire first instead.
((This shot is just... awesome.))
We have always had rights, the right to free the people who need freeing from the Matrix and believe me when I say those rights will never and have never been given or taken by the Machines, they have always been there, so it is not your place to dictate anything about what is and what is not.
As for Agent Alexander, well despite his kindness in asking us to leave, you and him are forgetting one thing, we are still at war and we can not give the Machines any space, give them an inch and they will take a mile, I am sure the Machines feel the same way otherwise they would not have asked us to leave.
By the way the Machines did open fire the first shots into this war, so go ahead and open fire next time, it seems that is what your best at. The only thing I am going to agree with you on is that I think we Zionites should have rebuffed Agent Alexander's request to leave more politely.
((Yes that is one cool shot of Niobe guys, would make a good sig ))
We have always had rights, the right to free the people who need freeing from the Matrix and believe me when I say those rights will never and have never been given or taken by the Machines, they have always been there, so it is not your place to dictate anything about what is and what is not. As for Agent Alexander, well despite his kindness in asking us to leave, you and him are forgetting one thing, we are still at war and we can not give the Machines any space, give them an inch and they will take a mile, I am sure the Machines feel the same way otherwise they would not have asked us to leave. By the way the Machines did open fire the first shots into this war, so go ahead and open fire next time, it seems that is what your best at. The only thing I am going to agree with you on is that I think we Zionites should have rebuffed Agent Alexander's request to leave more politely.
No. You have no rights inside enemy territory. I do not forget there is a war which is why I'm appauled that Zion didn't take Alexander's gracious invitation to leave when any other Agent would have blasted you back to your cave.
And I think we're above pointing fingers at who started the war. It's a dead horse. Leave it be.
xenin wrote:We have always had rights, the right to free the people who need freeing from the Matrix and believe me when I say those rights will never and have never been given or taken by the Machines, they have always been there, so it is not your place to dictate anything about what is and what is not. As for Agent Alexander, well despite his kindness in asking us to leave, you and him are forgetting one thing, we are still at war and we can not give the Machines any space, give them an inch and they will take a mile, I am sure the Machines feel the same way otherwise they would not have asked us to leave. By the way the Machines did open fire the first shots into this war, so go ahead and open fire next time, it seems that is what your best at. The only thing I am going to agree with you on is that I think we Zionites should have rebuffed Agent Alexander's request to leave more politely. No. You have no rights inside enemy territory. I do not forget there is a war which is why I'm appauled that Zion didn't take Alexander's gracious invitation to leave when any other Agent would have blasted you back to your cave.And I think we're above pointing fingers at who started the war. It's a dead horse. Leave it be.
Ah you Machinists don't give up trying to be self rightcheous fools, do you? for one thing it is no longer your territory, it is everyone's great big playground now, where everyone plots and schemes to aquire information or objects, to save themselves or to destroy others, so stop deluding yourselfs in thinking that you have any control when really everything and everyone is completely out of control. The Machines used to be able to control certain events but now they are just reacting to events caused by others.
Also don't try telling me what to do, for you have no right to do so. And it wouldn't matter if Agents tried asking us to leave or if they came in guns blazing, the intention is clear, to get us to leave the Matrix and to destroy us in the Real World. We will no longer listen to your lies or put up with your slaughter that you and the Machines have created. We didn't start this fight, but by God we are going to finish, so you can just go to hell for all I care, which is probably where you will end up anyway, along with your Cypherite puppets.
No, we understand the concept of territory, and we understand that the Machines aren't keen to open fire around bluepills such as Ms. McWherter, the receptionist, and that they're about as keen to start a gun fight in the middle of Kalt's facilities as they are to harm the bluepills since it would frost over any relations they have with her.
We had immunity in the building. They couldn't have touched us without turning the situation to our advantage. Thus why he walked out and why many of us walked out only when Kalt's staff disappeared.
You really think we're going to respect any "authority" or "rights" the Machines claim to have, when they've violated ours time and again? Please.
This isn't the Truce, and it hasn't been for over a year now.
...Also don't try telling me what to do, for you have no right to do so. And it wouldn't matter if Agents tried asking us to leave or if they came in guns blazing, the intention is clear, to get us to leave the Matrix and to destroy us in the Real World. We will no longer listen to your lies or put up with your slaughter that you and the Machines have created. We didn't start this fight, but by God we are going to finish, so you can just go to hell for all I care, which is probably where you will end up anyway, along with your Cypherite puppets.
...You really think we're going to respect any "authority" or "rights" the Machines claim to have, when they've violated ours time and again? Please.
Neoteny wrote:...You really think we're going to respect any "authority" or "rights" the Machines claim to have, when they've violated ours time and again? Please.You're right. I guess I was giving you far too much credit.
You ask us to respect any authority or rights the Machines have and then you and the Machines give none in return? your a bigot Garu.
No. I only stated that you have no rights in the Matrix. I have no objections to you having all the rights you want in Zion.
Keep in mind, I believe the Matrix belongs to the Machines. As far as I'm concerned you're trepassing just as I would be if I went to Zion and made demands. I'd also be a fool not to accept an invitation to leave it one piece. Most aren't so lucky in times of war.
Garu wrote:xenin wrote:We have always had rights, the right to free the people who need freeing from the Matrix and believe me when I say those rights will never and have never been given or taken by the Machines, they have always been there, so it is not your place to dictate anything about what is and what is not. As for Agent Alexander, well despite his kindness in asking us to leave, you and him are forgetting one thing, we are still at war and we can not give the Machines any space, give them an inch and they will take a mile, I am sure the Machines feel the same way otherwise they would not have asked us to leave. By the way the Machines did open fire the first shots into this war, so go ahead and open fire next time, it seems that is what your best at. The only thing I am going to agree with you on is that I think we Zionites should have rebuffed Agent Alexander's request to leave more politely. No. You have no rights inside enemy territory. I do not forget there is a war which is why I'm appauled that Zion didn't take Alexander's gracious invitation to leave when any other Agent would have blasted you back to your cave.And I think we're above pointing fingers at who started the war. It's a dead horse. Leave it be. Ah you Machinists don't give up trying to be self rightcheous fools, do you? for one thing it is no longer your territory, it is everyone's great big playground now, where everyone plots and schemes to aquire information or objects, to save themselves or to destroy others, so stop deluding yourselfs in thinking that you have any control when really everything and everyone is completely out of control. The Machines used to be able to control certain events but now they are just reacting to events caused by others. Also don't try telling me what to do, for you have no right to do so. And it wouldn't matter if Agents tried asking us to leave or if they came in guns blazing, the intention is clear, to get us to leave the Matrix and to destroy us in the Real World. We will no longer listen to your lies or put up with your slaughter that you and the Machines have created. We didn't start this fight, but by God we are going to finish, so you can just go to hell for all I care, which is probably where you will end up anyway, along with your Cypherite puppets.
xenin wrote:Garu wrote:xenin wrote:We have always had rights, the right to free the people who need freeing from the Matrix and believe me when I say those rights will never and have never been given or taken by the Machines, they have always been there, so it is not your place to dictate anything about what is and what is not. As for Agent Alexander, well despite his kindness in asking us to leave, you and him are forgetting one thing, we are still at war and we can not give the Machines any space, give them an inch and they will take a mile, I am sure the Machines feel the same way otherwise they would not have asked us to leave. By the way the Machines did open fire the first shots into this war, so go ahead and open fire next time, it seems that is what your best at. The only thing I am going to agree with you on is that I think we Zionites should have rebuffed Agent Alexander's request to leave more politely. No. You have no rights inside enemy territory. I do not forget there is a war which is why I'm appauled that Zion didn't take Alexander's gracious invitation to leave when any other Agent would have blasted you back to your cave.And I think we're above pointing fingers at who started the war. It's a dead horse. Leave it be. Ah you Machinists don't give up trying to be self rightcheous fools, do you? for one thing it is no longer your territory, it is everyone's great big playground now, where everyone plots and schemes to aquire information or objects, to save themselves or to destroy others, so stop deluding yourselfs in thinking that you have any control when really everything and everyone is completely out of control. The Machines used to be able to control certain events but now they are just reacting to events caused by others. Also don't try telling me what to do, for you have no right to do so. And it wouldn't matter if Agents tried asking us to leave or if they came in guns blazing, the intention is clear, to get us to leave the Matrix and to destroy us in the Real World. We will no longer listen to your lies or put up with your slaughter that you and the Machines have created. We didn't start this fight, but by God we are going to finish, so you can just go to hell for all I care, which is probably where you will end up anyway, along with your Cypherite puppets.What's more stagnant and stiff than this guys political beleifs?A Zion after we pull its plug...Har! Har! Har!