Catalyn wrote:We recognize no such restrictions.. EPN will continue to do what we must.Funny, you say you recognise no restrictions but you'd recognise the feeling of the EJP due to the bullet of an Agent's FM-1500 because you're ignoring said restrictions. Hell, you'd even recognise any Machinist or Cypherite bullet when it comes down to it.
We recognize no such restrictions.. EPN will continue to do what we must.
Sotirios wrote:ChloeAnn wrote:((Why try to stop it? ya'll will just Godmod it anyways.))(( Aww, that's no fun. Trying to sound all cool and you get practical on me. ))((oh no, its not you. I've RP'ed with EPN/zion before about bluepills, and they always godmod it :/ If I knew this was fair game, and ppl would actually flag and do it right, then yah, Id try to stop it))
ChloeAnn wrote:((Why try to stop it? ya'll will just Godmod it anyways.))(( Aww, that's no fun. Trying to sound all cool and you get practical on me. ))
((Why try to stop it? ya'll will just Godmod it anyways.))
ChloeAnn wrote:Hmph. Not a smart idea, dearies. Guess we'll have to keep a better eye on you kids.You can watch us all you want to, but that will not stop us...
Hmph. Not a smart idea, dearies. Guess we'll have to keep a better eye on you kids.
Catalyn wrote:ChloeAnn wrote:Hmph. Not a smart idea, dearies. Guess we'll have to keep a better eye on you kids.You can watch us all you want to, but that will not stop us...Your all mouth Catalyn.
It's always funny to see the Cypherites rage against an inherent function of the Matrix (the removal of people who become aware of the simulation) due to their belief that they're helping people avoid the pain of the real world. Only Cypherites receive this pain. There are plenty who clearly got past this pain (assuming they ever had it at all). Also, doesn't it kind of kill off Cypherite recruitment? Like I said, the real world gives them pain, so they became Cypherites. But if you're not letting people experience the pain of the real world, then there's no new Cypherites, right?
The Cypherite paradox.
Not removeing blues kills the system they want to protect and their own recruitment.Allowing them to be removed defeats the purpose of being a cyph.
Whats a cyph to do?
It does not matter if we have to feel a bullet or the effects of the EJP.. We will continue to strive to free those who wish to be released from the endless slavery of the pods..who want to know the truth behind the deception.
Do you ask them if they feel like slaves before you tell them anything? Do they really feel like slaves? Feeling that something isn't right doesn't mean that they know that they are 'slaves' as you put it. You are doing this because you think that they are slaves, not them. You're doing it because you want them to know the truth, a truth that you are fully aware of but will only reveal enough so as to try to convince them through curiosity.
Do you ever consider what is best for them? Would their quality of life, they way they perceive it, not you, improve? They cannot return once 'their' decision has been made. I say 'their' decision because I don't think they can make an informed decision without all the facts, facts which I very much doubt you give them in case you lose a 'potential'
Catalyn wrote:It does not matter if we have to feel a bullet or the effects of the EJP.. We will continue to strive to free those who wish to be released from the endless slavery of the pods..who want to know the truth behind the deception.Do you ask them if they feel like slaves before you tell them anything? Do they really feel like slaves? Feeling that something isn't right doesn't mean that they know that they are 'slaves' as you put it. You are doing this because you think that they are slaves, not them. You're doing it because you want them to know the truth, a truth that you are fully aware of but will only reveal enough so as to try to convince them through curiosity.Do you ever consider what is best for them? Would their quality of life, they way they perceive it, not you, improve? They cannot return once 'their' decision has been made. I say 'their' decision because I don't think they can make an informed decision without all the facts, facts which I very much doubt you give them in case you lose a 'potential'
I'm afraid your semantics and analytical diarrhea will not be enough to deter our efforts. Valiant effort, however.
Havocide wrote:Catalyn wrote:ChloeAnn wrote:Hmph. Not a smart idea, dearies. Guess we'll have to keep a better eye on you kids.You can watch us all you want to, but that will not stop us...Your all mouth Catalyn. And what does that leave you, my friend
Die?
Sotirios wrote: I'm afraid your semantics and analytical diarrhea will not be enough to deter our efforts. Valiant effort, however.I dont expect you to, you are too enamored with your own ideals and doctrine to care about any true needs and quality of life for potentials...
You still don't see it? However we perceive them to be, it's about giving not our wants. We're doing it so they can be given something that they are otherwise denied of their whole lives--so they can be given a choice they are without. Questioning our ethics in doing just that won't change anything.
As for what's best for them, it's just as relative to what they are being denied, nothing makes one more just than the other. We consider what's best for them more than some would think, but I don't expect you to comprehend that either.
~F
Hark who's talking, your so entrenched in your ideals that it's become the reason why you ridicule and Attack Zion and EPN actions, regardless of what they seem to be, except maybe Cypherites, but even then you slid in some criticism on Zion or EPN actions at the time.
Besides removing Bluepills from the Matrix who have come to realise or hate the Matrix is a necessity.
So if don't mind, stop being so Self-Rightcheous and think you have the moral high ground because you don't and never will simply because your no different from us, your just the opposition with different ideals.
