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Systemic Anomaly

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My own personal assessment of Theresa Morton is that she should not be approached for awakening any time soon which is something I can not stress enough. While Mrs. Morton is requesting information on what happened and why it happened she is motivated only by her husbands death and not any desire to know the truth. Awakening her now could be costly and dangerous to her mental health. For all investigative purposes she should be watched closely so that we may learn more about her husbands death and for her own protection.

Commander GamiSB
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E Pluribus Neo


Message edited by GamiSB on 05/11/2008 09:56:08.



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Log Update "Theresa Morton"



Greetings,

We again had an opportunity to meet with Theresa Morton. Below are some excerpts from the conversation we had with her. All of us within EPN owe thanks to 7h0r for meeting with her first, near Tabor Park North hardline. She was both relaxed and openly talking by the time Sotirios and I were able to arrive.

Sat May 10 22:46:53 2008 [Area] TheresaMorton: Thanks for the drinks earlier.
Sat May 10 22:46:54 2008 [Area] Vaith: Are you feeling better Theresa?
Sat May 10 22:47:06 2008 [Area] Vaith: no problem. I am glad you enjoyed them
Sat May 10 22:47:06 2008 [Area] TheresaMorton: A little..
Sat May 10 22:47:28 2008 [Area] TheresaMorton: I should still be in bed..



I have sent some EPN Operatives a digest of this conversation, including Fuscienne . I believe that she will forward this information to all EPN Commanders as well as Liaons.

Theresa was not directly approached for awakening during this conversation.

Regards,

Vaith
Captain of "The Kratos"

Message edited by Vaith on 05/11/2008 09:11:25.



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GamiSB wrote:

My own personal assessment of Theresa Morton is that she should not be approached for awakening any time soon which is something I can not stress enough. While Mrs. Morton is requesting information on what happened and why it happened she is motivated only by her husbands death and not any desire to know the truth. Awakening her now could be costly and dangerous to her mental health. For all investigative purposes she should be watched closely so that we may learn more about her husbands death and for her own protection.

Commander GamiSB
Anderson's Heart
E Pluribus Neo

I don't think she should be approached for awakening, ever. You have enough sense to realize now is not the time, but her later reaching out for the truth may just be a cause of her loss and a great deal of depression, let the woman sleep.

 




Systemic Anomaly

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NegativeEight wrote:
GamiSB wrote:

My own personal assessment of Theresa Morton is that she should not be approached for awakening any time soon which is something I can not stress enough. While Mrs. Morton is requesting information on what happened and why it happened she is motivated only by her husbands death and not any desire to know the truth. Awakening her now could be costly and dangerous to her mental health. For all investigative purposes she should be watched closely so that we may learn more about her husbands death and for her own protection.

Commander GamiSB
Anderson's Heart
E Pluribus Neo

I don't think she should be approached for awakening, ever. You have enough sense to realize now is not the time, but her later reaching out for the truth may just be a cause of her loss and a great deal of depression, let the woman sleep.

 

That is for her to decided, not you or me. Things have a habit of changing and while she is not ready today who's to say she never will be? Many redpills have come to the truth by concurring their own depression and realising the need to free themselves from their own self created "Matrices". The quest for the Truth almost always follows soon after in which case she will then become a danger to the system and either need to be silenced or awakened.




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Question: Theresa Morton is a bluepill right? So why is it I see her hardline to different locations?



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GamiSB wrote:
NegativeEight wrote:
GamiSB wrote:

My own personal assessment of Theresa Morton is that she should not be approached for awakening any time soon which is something I can not stress enough. While Mrs. Morton is requesting information on what happened and why it happened she is motivated only by her husbands death and not any desire to know the truth. Awakening her now could be costly and dangerous to her mental health. For all investigative purposes she should be watched closely so that we may learn more about her husbands death and for her own protection.

Commander GamiSB
Anderson's Heart
E Pluribus Neo

I don't think she should be approached for awakening, ever. You have enough sense to realize now is not the time, but her later reaching out for the truth may just be a cause of her loss and a great deal of depression, let the woman sleep.

 

That is for her to decided, not you or me. Things have a habit of changing and while she is not ready today who's to say she never will be? Many redpills have come to the truth by concurring their own depression and realising the need to free themselves from their own self created "Matrices". The quest for the Truth almost always follows soon after in which case she will then become a danger to the system and either need to be silenced or awakened.

The Commander is  correct..

Mrs. Morton is in a very vulnerable state at the moment.. She lost her husband under  the worse  possible of circumstances. She is seeking the truth in many forms, she suspects  there is more to her husband's  death  then what she was told by the "police". There is reason to believe her husband  did indeed  see  things  that  he  should not have seen...
        We will have to continue to approach her with care.


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GamiSB wrote:
The quest for the Truth almost always follows soon after in which case she will then become a danger to the system and either need to be silenced or awakened.
Not necessarily, unless aided by certain parties, the truth is hard to find on your own within society. As I said, Self aware can be dangerous to the system and others around them, this would necessitate awakening. But self awareness is very rare, at most people people would have a nagging feeling in their mind, one that can fade and get stronger depending on influences, situations and day to day activities however, its a feeling that many can live with quite easily. Many of these people, even if their minds have rejected some part of the simulation are still dependant on it for the most part so awakening would quite likely be fatal or very damaging at least.

Get your information about the husbands death, but let her mourn his passing and give her the chance to get on with her life without further interference.

I have to ask though, would you be doing this if you'd awakened her husband, or would you have left her alone having achieved your target?


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We give anyone the choice. It's never a forced encounter, we merely provide the food for thought.



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Vinia wrote:
GamiSB wrote:
The quest for the Truth almost always follows soon after in which case she will then become a danger to the system and either need to be silenced or awakened.
Not necessarily, unless aided by certain parties, the truth is hard to find on your own within society. As I said, Self aware can be dangerous to the system and others around them, this would necessitate awakening. But self awareness is very rare, at most people people would have a nagging feeling in their mind, one that can fade and get stronger depending on influences, situations and day to day activities however, its a feeling that many can live with quite easily. Many of these people, even if their minds have rejected some part of the simulation are still dependant on it for the most part so awakening would quite likely be fatal or very damaging at least.

Get your information about the husbands death, but let her mourn his passing and give her the chance to get on with her life without further interference.

I have to ask though, would you be doing this if you'd awakened her husband, or would you have left her alone having achieved your target?

The key word was "almost" however i still stand by what I said. If left alone to be picked at by the person, a splinter will fester and infect all around it. So a questioning mind will pick at the questions that trouble them and this then leads to a complete take over of thinking. Insomnia, detachment, depression, the list goes on of symptoms that are just the forefront of what can and will happen if left alone. But the quest for "The Truth" is not only what this analogy applies to.

Mrs Morton displayed none of those symptoms as her husband did until after he died. Her current frame of mind is clearly in the form of wanting a resolution to her husbands death and trying to find one. Picking at "why?" until she goes mad. While Mr. Morton sought enlightenment, Mrs. Morton now seeks comfort. They both knew/know what they sought/seek is out their and until they find it feel as if they are incomplete. Which again if left alone and to their own can lead to dangerous and extreme conditions.

But to answer your question, I was personally was not aware of Mrs. Morton's existence until her husband died as I had no interest in the case other then to observe and make sure those freeing Mr. Morton did so in a proper manor. Once I heard he had left behind a wife I felt sympathy towards her because we have all left behind people we loved and I would have hoped that the crew that awakened me explained it as best as they could to my family (though i doubt they did I'm sad to say). I can not speak on behalf of everyone in EPN but I myself would have at least tried to help her cope with her husbands disappearance just as I try to now with his death.




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Yes you said 'Almost', but that means very nearly or all but and I agree that this may not be about the truth about the simulation but the reasons why her husband got shot, but in your same supposition you said that 'she will then become a danger' if its reasons why and not wanting to find out the truth of the simulation then she will present no danger to the system. Perhaps she could be a danger to herself if, by her investigations, she is seen as another target by the shooter or whoever employed him/her, but I doubt she's become a serious danger to the simulation.

Hundreds of husbands, wives, sons, daughters, mothers, fathers die every day, people mourn their passing with the help of friends and family and learn to move on, with added counselling if necessary. If she is on her own with no friends and no family to grieve with and to help her through this difficult time I would agree that she could suffer from some form of depression. So I agree with your previous comment on not approaching her.

By all means find out what you can about the shooter, but as you said give her a wide berth, room to breath and to get her head sorted.


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Vinia wrote:
Yes you said 'Almost', but that means very nearly or all but and I agree that this may not be about the truth about the simulation but the reasons why her husband got shot, but in your same supposition you said that 'she will then become a danger' if its reasons why and not wanting to find out the truth of the simulation then she will present no danger to the system. Perhaps she could be a danger to herself if, by her investigations, she is seen as another target by the shooter or whoever employed him/her, but I doubt she's become a serious danger to the simulation.

Hundreds of husbands, wives, sons, daughters, mothers, fathers die every day, people mourn their passing with the help of friends and family and learn to move on, with added counselling if necessary. If she is on her own with no friends and no family to grieve with and to help her through this difficult time I would agree that she could suffer from some form of depression. So I agree with your previous comment on not approaching her.

By all means find out what you can about the shooter, but as you said give her a wide berth, room to breath and to get her head sorted.


But she will persent a danger. In fact the cities very federal prisons and asylums (if such exist) are a testament to what can happen when the human psyche is left to fix itself and not helped to coup or deal. Mrs. Morton has been left alone in a very cruel city with a husband to bury and a very bitter mother in law which is why we are working to help her through this along with why her husband was killed. Not to free her as she still has yet to prove that she wants out or to know that Truth only to help her through a tough time.




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Mrs.Morton will, undoubtedly, be unable to rest and build towards creating a new life for herself until she knows exactly what happened to the person she loved - and why. The operative question being whether this knowledge requires her to understand the nature of the Simulation.

One which is perhaps best left to Mrs.Morton to answer.




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GamiSB wrote:
But she will persent a danger. In fact the cities very federal prisons and asylums (if such exist) are a testament to what can happen when the human psyche is left to fix itself and not helped to coup or deal. Mrs. Morton has been left alone in a very cruel city with a husband to bury and a very bitter mother in law which is why we are working to help her through this along with why her husband was killed. Not to free her as she still has yet to prove that she wants out or to know that Truth only to help her through a tough time.
By all means but most likely more of a danger to herself rather than the simulation. Prisons and Asylums exist to prevent a person from inflicting harm on themselves and fellow citizens. If they represent a true danger to the simulation they would not be kept in it. I'm not aware of her current situation but having no friends and family (that would help her) does mean a difficult situation.

I implore those of you who are 'trying to help', do it, but do it for her. Help her get on with her life as Gami seems to be doing, just don't do it if all you're doing it for is to 'free' a mind.


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An update regarding Theresa Morton has been sent to our liaison officers and some commanders within EPN. Please check your inbox for further details.

Regards,

Captain Vaith
The Kratos - Unus Somnium - EPN



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How very sad all of this is...  Someone's very existience is shattered to the core, and all you can think about is adding another soldier to your rosters in a bloody war that fragile humans were never meant to fight.



 
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