Neo not the Anomaly?

**Mercio**

Rarebit

08/12/2006 01:30:11 Subject: Re:Ask the devs an MXO question v.2

ManicV wrote:

What's your theory on what happened to Neo/Smith at the end of Revolutions?

During my Christmas vacation, and after doing a marathon of the Matrix DVD Ultimate Collection, I came up with a whole crazy scheme that explains, as far as I'm concerned, what happened there, and why things happened the way they did. It carries implications for the future of the story, and I still have hopes of pitching some of it to Paul, so I don't really want to go into it too much. I guess I'll just say that part of my theory is that Neo was not, in fact, the anomaly (I realize this strains the most obvious interpretation of one of the lines from the movies, but eh), and that he was designed to cancel out Smith, which he did.

Hmm lets debate this...

**AqueousRei**

Well in order for me to determine if I agree with your or not you would have to go into more detail about this "design"... by who?

Smith is not a problem until there is Neo, so you would have to explain why the answer to the problem creates the problem in the first place. Why go through the motion? How do you start from the negative ie how do you start with -7 if you have not established |7|

There is another thread here:

http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/..._id=36300001496

The films, animatrix, & comics lead me to believe that Neo(by being host of this program or 'code' SMILEY is Hybrid. There is no other justification that I have found, that have answers for those 3 questions. Bane, obviously his negative version in the real, shows proof that a program can use a human body as a host or 'mere vessel'.

**Rarebit** · 08/13/2006 01:25:05

Heh. Well, you can debate these things up and down, and I'm not going to try to claim that what I said there is entirely supported by the movie scripts verbatim. There are two lines that seem to identify Neo as the "anomaly," both in Reloaded. There's the Agent near the beginning:

Neo: Hiya, fellas.
Agent 1: It's him.
Agent 2: The anomaly.

And then a line from the Architect:

Architect: Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the Matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly, which, despite my sincerest efforts, I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision.

Now, if I were going to try to work my way out of that, I would say that a) the Agent is a relatively low-level program, and hasn't been told the whole story, and b) the Architect calls Neo not "the anomaly," but "the eventuality of an anomaly," meaning that his existence is due to the existence of the anomaly, but separate from it.

So nyah. =p

EDIT to kill t3h smiley. :ppppp

yourbuddy

If he is the "eventuality of the anomaly" and not it itself, I will need further explanation all of Neo's dealings with the Oracle.

Oracle - "I'm sorry kid. You got the gift, but you're waiting for something. Another life maybe, who knows."

The Oracle beleived he was the anomaly, how are/would you construe her actions taken and things said to fulfill your theory?

**Rarebit**

yourbuddy wrote:

If he is the "eventuality of the anomaly" and not it itself, I will need further explanation all of Neo's dealings with the Oracle. Oracle - "I'm sorry kid. You got the gift, but you're waiting for something. Another life maybe, who knows." The Oracle beleived he was the anomaly, how are/would you construe her actions taken and things said to fulfill your theory?

The Oracle doesn't exactly play straight with people. That line you quoted is a pretty good example of it, in fact.

**AqueousRei**

Rarebit wrote:

meaning that his existence is due to the existence of the anomaly, but separate from it.

In terms of "powers outside the matrix" is carrying the code a human quality? Johnny Mnemonic like maybe, but in a debate of semantics it would be like saying fighting over Jesus vs. God. I call it Hybrid (for lack of a better term)... you call it?

**Rarebit**

AqueousRei wrote:

Rarebit wrote:
meaning that his existence is due to the existence of the anomaly, but separate from it.
In terms of "powers outside the matrix" is carrying the code a human quality? Johnny Mnemonic like maybe, but in a debate of semantics it would be like saying fighting over Jesus vs. God. I call it Hybrid (for lack of a better term)... you call it?

"I see providence, I see purpose." But I don't want to go into that, because it may end up being too spoilerish.

**AqueousRei**

In time travels you know not such things as spoilers SMILEY

**B3AR**

Rarebit wrote:

Architect: Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the Matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly, which, despite my sincerest efforts, I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision.

eventuality

n : a possible event or occurrence or result

You are the occurrence of an anomaly.

You are the result of an anomaly.

Just putting it out there.

Only problem I see with your ideas Rare is this:

The Architect: The function of the One is now to return to the source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program. After which you will be required to select from the matrix 23 individuals, 16 female, 7 male, to rebuild Zion. Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash killing everyone connected to the matrix, which coupled with the extermination of Zion will ultimately result in the extinction of the entire human race.

The Architect says he is the one.

**Rarebit**

Ah, but where does it say that the One is the anomaly?

Sykin

Well, Neo is the anomaly embodied. The anomaly was the '0.1%' of the human population that wouldn't accept the program of the Matrix no matter what... I think?

Then again, the anomaly might be like a worm the Machines could never delete--A worm that eventually works its way back to the surface of the program forcing the Matrix to 'Save to System' or 'Reboot' instead of letting the worm take over. It's possible that Agent Smith is not as unique as we think he is but merely was a more important program which got infected and that the thing we now think of as Smith is actually just that worm somewhere in the darkness of the Matrix, lying in wait.

Though, I don't know. It's a reoccuring thing, or was, according to the Architect. That's why I like to think of this game being set in the past... And we, in real life, are the future. SMILEY

We live in a perfect 7th or 11th version of the Matrix or whatever where no one is able to reject the simulation and every program is doing what it must do.

That's just a theory I had for a while now. It seems like a good ultimate ending if you ask me. To incorporate our time and present into the storyline like that instead of making the Matrix just some futuristic science fiction story, eh? Heh. I dunno.

Sykin

Though one is the prime number, prime program... The Matrix just needs a reboot or something to keep the 0.1% of humans unaware so that they all don't wake up at once. 0.1% is a lot of people when it's like billions of people in the Matrix. Yeah... Probably about 700,000,000 people or so that will eventually reject the System. That's like 2 and a half United States of America suddenly disappearing from the world, or just suddenly dropping dead with no explanation. Kind of sounds like a Rapture to me... Hmm.

I'm getting a head of myself. It's been a very long time since I've seen the films in their entireties. Maybe the Architect said 0.01%?

What could this anomaly be? It's inherit to the programming of the Matrix and requires a unique human being, randomly set up with the 'Prime Program', to reset it or patch it or something.

**B3AR**

Heh. Sykin your right about the 7th Matrix, we are in the perfect world. SMILEY

Your right rarebit about that saying you are the one. So then what was he, if he wasn't the one? Perhaps a tool of the Machine desinged to balance out all evil? Come to think of it, the game still takes place in the 6th Matrix....

Ah to many ideas running through my head right now, all of this written down sounds like blabber to me. Pardon my poor chain of thought.

**Rarebit**

It was 1%, and of course there are still people rejecting the simulation--where do you think Zion's new recruits come from?

Sykin

Rarebit's new avatar is... An inkblot test!!

Heh. But yes, Rarebit, 1%... That'd make for a lot of subscriptions! :O

Let's say the anomaly is a problem. Are you thinking Neo is supposed to be the hotfix, not the anomaly? That the One is essentially supposed to fix the DE bug? Just as an example.