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[7.2.4] It's not a hovercraft captain's signal like we thought - Vector - 5/15/07
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So it looks like this wasn't Morpheus...

I'm a little sad, however, it doesn't bother me too much. To me Morpheus was dead, the old one at least. The one The Assassin killed was a shadow of his former self, no role model.

I hope we can all go back to focussing our attentions on The General now that this little distraction has been dealt with.

I find it rather convenient that every time we get close to The General or we take down an ally of his, Morpheus seems to appear and spout some Anti-Truce non-sense.

-Trep

 



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Yasamuu1 wrote:
Pyraci wrote:
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Oh how I laughed when The Kid announced it. Zions hopes crushed, I hope the truce breaking was worth it!

Wait a minute, wait a minute... Where has the truce been broken? The Machine hasn't started digging again to anyone's knowledge, nor has Zion proper declared all-out war against the Machine. Bluepills can still be freed that want out. I don't see any breaking of a truce. Let's not jump the gun here. There's still the Machine's little dark secret with this Cryptos manipulation, which seems all too quickly swept under the rug. There's fault on several sides if you ask me, but no truce has been broken.

It must just have been air those Zionites were shooting at machines with then? SMILEY

Hey, the Machine shoots back, and it's operatives do too. The statement still stands: The truce hasn't been broken.

...silly billy SMILEY <3

 

I think it's rather obvious that The General is behind this, I mean the words spoken by "Morpheus" were just fed to Zion in such a manipulative way and they fell for it hook like and sinker. Breaking the truce at any opertunity they could when surrounded by EPN; even turning up for another EPN only meeting. When do you guys get your EPN tags?((Seriously Syntax and Recursion EPN manage to keep Zion out of their events why can't Vector?))

Maybe this is an act of manipulation on the part of the General, maybe not.

Some people believed this was Morpheus himself, some didn't.

But the fact remains that it isn't real, and Zion began to question like everyone else. Don't be do quick to assume what people are thinking on the other side of the fence without knowing for yourself, as you put it in an earlier thread. I know I can't speak for everyone in Zion and EPN, but instead of pointing fingers at each other over hearsay and rumors, why can't we focus on finding out just what the hell is really going on? This isn't just a matter of controlling Zion. It's a matter of putting all of us at war with each other.

Yes, but the manipulation was aimed directly at Zion, because you look at it and how they act as soon as anything Morpheus related comes to light. They attack machinsts on a regular basis, they get all hyped up, but in the end The General just played them all for fools. However, when they aren't included in Machine operations there is massive outcries.

Manipulation works both ways - directing people (primarily Zion/EPN) against other people (Machine/Cyph) so this was against the Machinists. I've been held at gunpoint by Machinists enough to know that these attacks go both ways There isn't any room to claim innocence. There may be individuals that make a fuss about not being included on mech ops, but that doesn't mean the whole group does. We can be just as "efficient" as anyone else.

- Ezechiel



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Pyraci wrote:
Yasamuu1 wrote:
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Yasamuu1 wrote:

Oh how I laughed when The Kid announced it. Zions hopes crushed, I hope the truce breaking was worth it!

Wait a minute, wait a minute... Where has the truce been broken? The Machine hasn't started digging again to anyone's knowledge, nor has Zion proper declared all-out war against the Machine. Bluepills can still be freed that want out. I don't see any breaking of a truce. Let's not jump the gun here. There's still the Machine's little dark secret with this Cryptos manipulation, which seems all too quickly swept under the rug. There's fault on several sides if you ask me, but no truce has been broken.

It must just have been air those Zionites were shooting at machines with then? SMILEY

Hey, the Machine shoots back, and it's operatives do too. The statement still stands: The truce hasn't been broken.

...silly billy SMILEY <3

But they made moves and attacks which break the terms of it SMILEY <3

 

 

I think it's rather obvious that The General is behind this, I mean the words spoken by "Morpheus" were just fed to Zion in such a manipulative way and they fell for it hook like and sinker. Breaking the truce at any opertunity they could when surrounded by EPN; even turning up for another EPN only meeting. When do you guys get your EPN tags?((Seriously Syntax and Recursion EPN manage to keep Zion out of their events why can't Vector?))

Maybe this is an act of manipulation on the part of the General, maybe not.

Some people believed this was Morpheus himself, some didn't.

But the fact remains that it isn't real, and Zion began to question like everyone else. Don't be do quick to assume what people are thinking on the other side of the fence without knowing for yourself, as you put it in an earlier thread. I know I can't speak for everyone in Zion and EPN, but instead of pointing fingers at each other over hearsay and rumors, why can't we focus on finding out just what the hell is really going on? This isn't just a matter of controlling Zion. It's a matter of putting all of us at war with each other.

Yes, but the manipulation was aimed directly at Zion, because you look at it and how they act as soon as anything Morpheus related comes to light. They attack machinsts on a regular basis, they get all hyped up, but in the end The General just played them all for fools. However, when they aren't included in Machine operations there is massive outcries.

Manipulation works both ways - directing people (primarily Zion/EPN) against other people (Machine/Cyph) so this was against the Machinists. I've been held at gunpoint by Machinists enough to know that these attacks go both ways There isn't any room to claim innocence.

Aren't you EPN? Bleh I lose track of your loyalties :pp


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Oh, EPN...

I have been told by so many that I am wrong, that it is him, that he is returning, that I am wicked, for I do not believe.

Now you see why I never believed. Blinded are the faithful, not the skeptical.

-Neoteny




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Neoteny wrote:

Oh, EPN...

I have been told by so many that I am wrong, that it is him, that he is returning, that I am wicked, for I do not believe.

Now you see why I never believed. Blinded are the faithful, not the skeptical.

-Neoteny


Don't generalize us en masse; there are people in every organization who are extremists to some end of their beliefs. As a broad collective, we were never blinded by passion over logic.  We used CPDs to get to the bottom of the origin of these signals, not to hold a séance for a once-great leader.



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Yasamuu1 wrote:
Aren't you EPN? Bleh I lose track of your loyalties :pp
Pfft... You haven't been paying attention. :ppp

I don't think it's quite that simple though, Neoteny. Faith and skepticism walk hand in hand. Skepticism is what makes us ask what the Matrix is and desire to be freed, but faith(even if only in our own self-preservation) is what kept many alive during the war. Also, blindness isn't necessarily a bad thing in a world where the truth isn't what it seems to be. Just a thought...



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Neoteny wrote:

Oh, EPN...

I have been told by so many that I am wrong, that it is him, that he is returning, that I am wicked, for I do not believe.

Now you see why I never believed. Blinded are the faithful, not the skeptical.

-Neoteny

But you did once believe, my friend.  And who is stronger?  A man attacked for his beliefs time and again until he becomes hurt, and a skeptic?  Or a man attacked for his beliefs time and again, that remains faithful?

Which of the above do you believe Morpheus himself experienced within Zion?  Which of the above do you believe he will be looking for, when and if he returns?

I'd rather be an optimist than a skeptic.  At least if I'm an optimist, I open my mind to possibility...

For Neo,
Zeissman



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I'm going to dedicate this thread to your undeniable logic if it turns out the General was behind this.


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Skill wrote:
I'm going to dedicate this thread to your undeniable logic if it turns out the General was behind this.
Again, it is certainly a possibility that cannot be ruled out.  But the point I'm making is not that it is Morpheus, and we should rule out anything else...  it's that we shouldn't rule out anything or anyone.  Closing our mind to any possibility does more harm than good.

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The truth was obvious from the get-go. You were being misled.  You claim to "free your minds", but you'll believe anything.  Pathetically ironic, really.



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Zeissman wrote:
Neoteny wrote:

Oh, EPN...

I have been told by so many that I am wrong, that it is him, that he is returning, that I am wicked, for I do not believe.

Now you see why I never believed. Blinded are the faithful, not the skeptical.

-Neoteny

But you did once believe, my friend.  And who is stronger?  A man attacked for his beliefs time and again until he becomes hurt, and a skeptic?  Or a man attacked for his beliefs time and again, that remains faithful?

Which of the above do you believe Morpheus himself experienced within Zion?  Which of the above do you believe he will be looking for, when and if he returns?

I'd rather be an optimist than a skeptic.  At least if I'm an optimist, I open my mind to possibility...

For Neo,
Zeissman


A skeptic defaults to the position that it doesn't deserve belief until it can be reasonably proven, seen, smelled, tasted, heard, or touched.  That's not the same a pessimist, one who assumes the worst about everything. Of course, I suppose in the eye of a believer, assuming the worst and assuming nonexistence are one and the same, eh?


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((Why is it when I read "Kid: To the church!" I rofl'ed?))



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Roukan wrote:
((Why is it when I read "Kid: To the church!" I rofl'ed?))

((Because he wishes he was Batman. "To the batmobile" is what his mind said.))



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Trepetia wrote:

So it looks like this wasn't Morpheus...

I'm a little sad, however, it doesn't bother me too much. To me Morpheus was dead, the old one at least. The one The Assassin killed was a shadow of his former self, no role model.

I hope we can all go back to focussing our attentions on The General now that this little distraction has been dealt with.

I find it rather convenient that every time we get close to The General or we take down an ally of his, Morpheus seems to appear and spout some Anti-Truce non-sense.

-Trep

This lady speaks the truth.

The Morpheus who stood for Zion was gone long before the Assassin's foul stench filled the air.

Of course we wanted to hold onto hope, but what Merrit said was also correct, what were we really hoping for? The return of the same man who fell from grace and threatened so much? I sure as hell know i wasn't.

Maybe theres more to this, maybe there isn't. All i know is we shouldnt go risking anything more than we already have chasing shadows. That goes for you as well EPN, stop playing games with your lives and hurry up home.


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What is it the kids are saying these days?

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