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Ascendent Logic

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prooph wrote:
HA i think its a privelage that im up on this.. lmao.. Nice kill "yas" u killed a lv 46 patcher ... Prooph = Terrorist 4 Life !!!

Pssst...This is RP. You're ruining the RP. Get out of the thread.



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prooph wrote:
HA i think its a privelage that im up on this.. lmao.. Nice kill "yas" u killed a lv 46 patcher ... Prooph = Terrorist 4 Life !!!

this is no bragging thread, i will kill epns 50 or 46 alike, as my screen shots show. Why is yas in inverted commas?



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Wow a machine strategy I can applaud!

EPN's determined ignorance, its refusal to learn from either past or present, its purile hormonally led crusade deserves one thing and one thing only - extermination.... remember one less EPN is one less person to bleed power from the Matrix, one less person on which food in the real is wasted, do it for yourself, do it for your friends, hell even do it for Neo - kill an EPN today SMILEY




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You're hopeless Tytanya SMILEY. Meet you on the field.

Brooch



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There was this one time, in band camp. When I saw an EPN get shot by the piano teacher *sighs* those were the days.

A good EPN is a dead EPN.SMILEY





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If there are Machine elements that blatantly disregard the peace (and there are) then it is my duty...no, OUR duty, to put them down. And put them down HARD. EPN will not become a punching bag or scapegoat for rogue Machines.

SC, you are hearby placed on notice: we will not tolerate your actions. You will be hunted down with a vengence for your acts of terrorism against us.


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Called wrote:
If there are Machine elements that blatantly disregard the peace (and there are) then it is my duty...no, OUR duty, to put them down. And put them down HARD. EPN will not become a punching bag or scapegoat for rogue Machines.

SC, you are hearby placed on notice: we will not tolerate your actions. You will be hunted down with a vengence for your acts of terrorism against us.


Systematic Chaos works for the well being of both Machines and Humanity. By helping to keep the System in order we are keeping Humanity alive. As we work for those who control the System - No. Who are the System - I hardly think you can call us terrorists.

Expect a longer broadcast addressing this in the near future.




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oranos wrote:

Systematic Chaos works for the well being of both Machines and Humanity. By helping to keep the System in order we are keeping Humanity alive. As we work for those who control the System - No. Who are the System - I hardly think you can call us terrorists.


Humanity: Alive and enslaved. Well done Machinists.

Systematic Chaos: Terrorists would be better. SC has masterfully demonstrated how to be: Hired Slaver enforcers. The Hessian Mercenaries of the American Revolutionary War come to mind.

I'll take death before I bow to a mechanical leech.

Brooch

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Taecross Acted on his own and went rouge do not let One mans action Cloud your judgement.  EPN does not condone in terrorism like so many think.  We will Rectify this issue with in  I suggest you Cease Fire on all EPN until futher Notice. you all will be notified soon enough.


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Br00ch wrote:
oranos wrote:

Systematic Chaos works for the well being of both Machines and Humanity. By helping to keep the System in order we are keeping Humanity alive. As we work for those who control the System - No. Who are the System - I hardly think you can call us terrorists.


Humanity: Alive and enslaved. Well done Machinists.

Systematic Chaos: Terrorists would be better. SC has masterfully demonstrated how to be: Hired Slaver enforcers. The Hessian Mercenaries of the American Revolutionary War come to mind.

I'll take death before I bow to a mechanical leech.

Brooch

Insurgence-EPN

The Machines have done a great deal for Humanity and their actions have been greatly misinterpreted. Before our times, Machines were nothing more than the creation of man. Mindless, and sub-servient.  The birth of A.I. allowed them to start thinking for themselves, as all living things do. For this, they were shunned by the very beings who created them. Abandoned like an orphan. Did this cause them to turn on the human race?

No. They built their own city, and created their own economy. They wished to co-exist with humanity and tried to be peaceful. Unfortunately, humans, such imperfect creatures, would not allow this to be so. For petty reasons such as pride, they would not co-exist with the Machines, or acknowledge them as equals. They struck out at their creations a 2nd time. This time, attempting to destroy the city they had built for themselves. The Machines fought back however, and were much too strong for the oppressive humans.

Then, continuing the stupidity humans had been displaying during that time, preceded to destroy the sky, in turn destroying the surface of the world. They could have co-existed. Instead they chose to ruin the world. They continued to fight the Machines, but they were weaker.

This was going to be the final defeat of humans. The extinction of a race. For centuries they had wiped out each other, and now they faced something bigger. But they weren't wiped out. They were kept alive...By the very same beings they had tried to destroy. The Machines could have finished the extinction of the human race, but they didn't. If it was the other way around, the humans would have had no hesitation in destroying the Machines, but the Machines showed mercy.

If we are here simply to supply energy, then why were we allowed to dream peacefully within the Matrix? Could they not have made us suffer the true reality, every waking moment, every second of our lives. We could have lied there in pain looking at the fields for dozens of years, but they did not punish us so. They allowed us to sleep. They allowed us to dream. They hid the ignorance of our forefathers from us, and the trouble it caused. They did not want us to see the disgusting condition of the world which the humans had caused so long ago, preventing any life on the world from seeing the stars ever again. It was the Machines who showed us the only sunrise and sunset we will ever get to see. Not humans.

Why did the Machines not obliterate our species? Or allow us to suffer the punishment of those before us? I do not completely know. Perhaps they feel some obligation to their creators. Something in their code that would prevent them from every destroying us completely.

I believe there is so much humor in all of your beliefs. Machines are "using" and "enslaving" humans. Is a hovercraft not a Machine? Are the things used to power your city not Machines? What is the difference? Perhaps it's that these Machines cannot feel. Well yes that would be true. But then wouldn't it also be true that bluepills cannot feel what is happening to them either?

Now on to Systematic Chaos, who you have so easily branded terrorists, or slave enforcers. My personal view, and I believe it is one that many of my factionmates share, perhaps in slightly different ways, is this:

Humans owe the Machines. They kept us alive. If it were not for them we would not be here now. You would not be around to experience joy, laughter or love. They allowed us to sleep peacefully. I fight for the stability of the Matrix, but this is not all I see. When I look to the future I see so much potential for both our species, and the Machines, if only there were not those who would seek to disrupt it. I see humans and Machines living as one. Perhaps on the real world. With the technology of the Machines, and the illogical minds of humans perhaps the world can still be repaired.

I see the melding of flesh of metal. The grey skies fading back into blue. The scorched earth blooming with grass once again. Creatures that humans doomed so long ago without even a thought returning to the land. Is this not a great future? Perhaps I'm biased, but I see no way this future could be considered negatively.

Take my words into consideration. You know they ring true.






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In a word: hogwash.


Ascendent Logic

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Called wrote:
In a word: hogwash.

Where is your reason? You don't have one.





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Br00ch wrote:

Spam that "terrorist" button all you want, it doesn't change the fact that you are willingly supporting the beings that wiped untold amounts of humans off the planet 5 times for their G*n System. That possess and monitor every single movement bluepills make and keep all other humans monitored and trapped in a cave. But I will say this, you are no different from the other 99% of humanity that hug their pillows out of greed and fear every single day. Nor to one degree are the Zionists who are so afraid of the Machines they do nothing to end the cycle. Other than one simple fact. You know the truth, and yet still hold on to the System.

"Human greed is our ally, a System of... control." - Agent Narrator in Machine Organization Movie Intro

Brooch

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I was thinking it had already been said.




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Or in my own words, slavery is wrong. Knowingly or unknowingly--in any form--slavery is wrong. Your reasoning of the reason why bluepills slepp instead of lie awake in torture is good enogh--because we don't KNOW why the Machines chose to do it this way, no one does. The biggest commodity God gave us is choice. Even the Architect says so. Machines have taken that away. What's that syndrome where the abductee starts to feel like the kidnapper is right? That's what it has to be when humans side with with our captors. It has to be. Either that or blatant selfishness--or fear. "Don't rock the boat! Oh, what will happen to us trapped here if the boat is rocked?"

I prefer to make my own choices. Just as you have. But the bluepills are denied that choice--and it's wrong.


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You're referring to Stockholm Syndrome. I believe you have skipped many of my points.

As I said I do not believe what the Machines are doing is slavery. It is the preservation of the human race in a way that means they don't have to suffer the mistakes of those before us.

You are right. We don't know why the Machines did it. I am just giving my own opinion, and it's a very valid opinion.

Choice. Choice is a matter of opinion. Do you have a choice whether you wish to live underground or on the surface? No. God never gave you full choice. Can you choose to live over death? No. You can say that my saying this is ridiculous but it's true.

You also ignored my comment on the bluepills being "used", no more than you would use a hovercraft.


 
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