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Systemic Anomaly

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I know that if you use a destroyer/Ballista build, using the same principle but using bottleneck so that you can damage them, hitting them with Dev field then with LC2 you can 2-shot anyone and it doesn't require the use of luggables

Not that I've used it for about 2 years and once again like ballaks build missing some of the essential steps makes this very hard to accomplish.



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Denary wrote:
I know that if you use a destroyer/Ballista build, using the same principle but using bottleneck so that you can damage them, hitting them with Dev field then with LC2 you can 2-shot anyone and it doesn't require the use of luggables

Not that I've used it for about 2 years and once again like ballaks build missing some of the essential steps makes this very hard to accomplish.


Without luggables I found that you can 3-4 (generally) shot using LC2 with a follow up of Logic Barrage, but once all your buffs run out after that second hit, you'll be a lot weaker. Luggables just spruce things up a bit and I didn't really need Bottleneck because you never actually hit them because debuffs never inflict damage. Of course, it's a pain in the *CENSORED* when you have some MA run up, kick your target in the face for 100 damage and then the guy you rooted who was about to become another customer of SOE's Loading Area, realizes he's free and then runs around a corner or something.

Now I know a lot of guys tend to exaggerate slightly about their numbers when they PvP (not at you Denary) but I'm serious that with the luggables and such, the One-Shot-Kill is absolutely possible in this game. The only problem is like I said the steps are as vital as when you get ready to snipe somebody. Miss the snipe, and you're screwed. Miss the follow up, and you're screwed usually.




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Pylat wrote:
No offense, but that loadout is far too inconsistent to really consider an effective loadout.
This could be said about a great deal of loadouts though, this particular one could work like a charm depending how you use it.  Whcih is why I honestly don't think there is a trump-all best loadout for any class, but I wouldn't want to debunk the purpose of an entire thread. =P


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Ballak wrote:
Of course, it's a pain in the *CENSORED* when you have some MA run up, kick your target in the face for 100 damage and then the guy you rooted who was about to become another customer of SOE's Loading Area, realizes he's free and then runs around a corner or something.
Oh god I feel your pain, nothing more annoying than some random *CENSORED* breaking the root you put on someone cause they're desperate to deal that measly 100 points of damage.



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Pylat wrote:
Ballak wrote:
Of course, it's a pain in the *CENSORED* when you have some MA run up, kick your target in the face for 100 damage and then the guy you rooted who was about to become another customer of SOE's Loading Area, realizes he's free and then runs around a corner or something.
Oh god I feel your pain, nothing more annoying than some random *CENSORED* breaking the root you put on someone cause they're desperate to deal that measly 100 points of damage.
It's fine if they just go for the evade and interlock but yes there is nothing worse than a hungry MA trying to be a hero

~spha



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Sphairo wrote:
Pylat wrote:
Ballak wrote:
Of course, it's a pain in the *CENSORED* when you have some MA run up, kick your target in the face for 100 damage and then the guy you rooted who was about to become another customer of SOE's Loading Area, realizes he's free and then runs around a corner or something.
Oh god I feel your pain, nothing more annoying than some random *CENSORED* breaking the root you put on someone cause they're desperate to deal that measly 100 points of damage.
It's fine if they just go for the evade and interlock but yes there is nothing worse than a hungry MA trying to be a hero

~spha
ORIONREX



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Ballak wrote:
Sphairo wrote:
Pylat wrote:
Ballak wrote:
Of course, it's a pain in the *CENSORED* when you have some MA run up, kick your target in the face for 100 damage and then the guy you rooted who was about to become another customer of SOE's Loading Area, realizes he's free and then runs around a corner or something.
Oh god I feel your pain, nothing more annoying than some random *CENSORED* breaking the root you put on someone cause they're desperate to deal that measly 100 points of damage.
It's fine if they just go for the evade and interlock but yes there is nothing worse than a hungry MA trying to be a hero

~spha
ORIONREX
He's a good MA, just put him on a leesh so he doesn't go all out action man and your okay!



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Ballak wrote:
Sphairo wrote:
Pylat wrote:
Ballak wrote:
Of course, it's a pain in the *CENSORED* when you have some MA run up, kick your target in the face for 100 damage and then the guy you rooted who was about to become another customer of SOE's Loading Area, realizes he's free and then runs around a corner or something.
Oh god I feel your pain, nothing more annoying than some random *CENSORED* breaking the root you put on someone cause they're desperate to deal that measly 100 points of damage.
It's fine if they just go for the evade and interlock but yes there is nothing worse than a hungry MA trying to be a hero

~spha
ORIONREX
LOL, I thought about the exact same thing before I saw this. Hivemind.



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Best hacker loadout in my opinion?

PvE - Arbalest for Archives, or a mix of Hacker/Shadow for farming standards

PvP - Vector, or Arbalest with a few good evades on it...



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 I have 3 loads that I use depending on the fight. I have area, single, and a Dot load. I also have an experiment load that i bust out and tweak and redu every once in a while. I mainly use my Destroyer/Howitzer load since I hardely am against just one person. All in all I am a support hacker, and having your loads on macro (a must) will make any situation an easy one. Life as a hacker for me is short, i hate HJ from a fight, but a good HJ can give you that extra time to regain some IS and be back in the fight.

Hax FTW
-Mav-


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Its Funny You say that, I also Have 3 Load, Macro'd ofcourse, which i mainly use

My Main One, 1 v 1 Bulid (still effective in any kind of group PvP too) An Area DOT bulid, And a Area Howitzer load too, hacks is great fun still, i love it, even after these years SMILEY x

goo HAXORS x




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Yeah my 1v1 load is still good for pvp but my fatcion mates are always like "Root them please" so I got use to having area hacks on or at least having Bottle Neck. When Nubious is hacking I don't load BN, but since he is guns now...anyways always nice to have...

Favorite ability that is in all my loads Slow. I like Crash too because it is the same as Slow but with different downgrades.....


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Sphairo wrote:
Pylat wrote:
Ballak wrote:
Of course, it's a pain in the *CENSORED* when you have some MA run up, kick your target in the face for 100 damage and then the guy you rooted who was about to become another customer of SOE's Loading Area, realizes he's free and then runs around a corner or something.
Oh god I feel your pain, nothing more annoying than some random *CENSORED* breaking the root you put on someone cause they're desperate to deal that measly 100 points of damage.
It's fine if they just go for the evade and interlock but yes there is nothing worse than a hungry MA trying to be a hero

~spha
Hmm not 100% agree with that. Just cause an MA hits a red thats rooted doesn't mean he's hungry or tryin to be in there kinda thing. One thing an MA 'needs' to do is hit b4 il (more chance of a state.) If u see a root u don't hit (common sense) but i have at times, accidentally broke a root, not cause i'm 'hungry' but cause u don't notice the root is there or u'v press the hit button as the root has bn cast. Not our fault honest SMILEY

p.s. Aikido owns hax SMILEY <3


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The_Bruceter wrote:
Hmm not 100% agree with that. Just cause an MA hits a red thats rooted doesn't mean he's hungry or tryin to be in there kinda thing. One thing an MA 'needs' to do is hit b4 il (more chance of a state.) If u see a root u don't hit (common sense) but i have at times, accidentally broke a root, not cause i'm 'hungry' but cause u don't notice the root is there or u'v press the hit button as the root has bn cast. Not our fault honest SMILEY

p.s. Aikido owns hax SMILEY <3

Mehh. Hax no good in IL, so any MA has the potential to own a Hacker. I simply don't like to root people, since when I do they jump after the root has timed out, that is in a 1v1 situation.


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p.s. Aikido owns hax SMILEY <3

Depends Who's using Aikido, I've been destroying some MA's lately, But you always know which ones to run away from hehe M.r Tonyjaa lol


 
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