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No love for Hackers :( and Im completly over this
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Jacked Out

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Yet another silent Hacker nerf once again to accuracy. Just when it was feeling tolerable to be a hacker again another silent nerf to Viral accuracy in update 46.1

All the hacker haters can rejoice again. Meanwhile snipers, gunmen and MKTs rule the server.

Dont you just love being killed in 2 sniper shots, yeah 1200 freefire damage without exploits. 2000+ damage full auto redux. I can say no more really. Balance in MXO is F ing a joke.

Hacker once again the "support class" all the haters so wish it to be. If you can even call it that.

Im glad that this was such a priority with all the other REAL problems still out there.




Jacked Out

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I don't think they nerfed viral accuracy in update 46.1. Maybe you had a bad day or your opponents finally know how to play against hackers? My hacks hit as often as before. And Numalink (dunno if she is spellt this way, but she is also a member of DM) did quiet well with hacker too SMILEY

Meanwhile snipers, gunmen and MKTs rule the server.

Are you playing on a different server? At the moment I see more and more hackers running around.
Snipers, gunmen, MKTs - thx god they are easy to beat for hackers.

Dont you just love being killed in 2 sniper shots, yeah 1200 freefire damage without exploits.
Ballistic Resi 4TW

Hacker once again the "support class" all the haters so wish it to be.
I get enough kills in 1on1s or outnumbered.


Jacked Out

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I've been meaning to ask a level 50 MA or gunner what their accurcacy is to compare it with ours, but haven't gotten around to it.  I love AoE attacks and I will keep my main RSI a hacker.  My other 2 are MAs, but I might switch one of them to spy or gunman.  I haven't noticed any decreased accuracy from the last patch.  After I switch loadouts or clothes, I often need to drop my buff and switch to self defense then back to hacker style and reactivate my buff to update my accuracy or any bonus changes. I received a pair of level 50 male viral accuracy and damage 2% shades if any of you guys would like a copy. 

Your friendly Recursion Coder,

MrMatador



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Well perhaps I jumped to conclusions but something definatly feels different with VA in interlock.

Infect area and code infection seem VERY hard to hit in interlock as opposed to before.

It might not be very noticable to hackers that are perhaps avoiding IL, I definatly feel a difference in IL though.


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Sometimes it is difficult to win a round in IL.  Try using UI Lag 1.0 to lower their CT or Plague Zone to at least inflict some damage while you are taking some also.  If I loose a few rounds, I occasionly put on Reactor Glasses that have 2% melee defense bonus to boost my defenses.

MrMatador



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MrMatador1 wrote:

Sometimes it is difficult to win a round in IL.  Try using UI Lag 1.0 to lower their CT or Plague Zone to at least inflict some damage while you are taking some also.  If I loose a few rounds, I occasionly put on Reactor Glasses that have 2% melee defense bonus to boost my defenses.

MrMatador

Yeah, I totally agree its very difficult to hack in IL anyway kind of so I am suspecting maybe the problem actually lies in UI lag 1.0

I always use UI lag 1.0 immediatly in IL and it doesnt seem to make ANY diff now. I did some more testing this afternoon and there is definatly something diff about IL hacking but im not positive the exact cause. Seems like something was either adjusted or is currently bugged.

I usually have Area infect or a code infection cued as I activate a plague zone. Now it seems like even with the effects of UI lag, AI or CI is usually countered. At first i suspected activating plague zone was the cause and was stopping the infections, but i have noticed that they can still be cued, but CI and AI are much easily countered than they were.

Aside from that I was wrong about overall VA nerf but something is different about IL hacking with these abs. I know most players dont agree that IL hacking should even be possible but I disagree. Im ONLY intrested in interlock hacking, as despoiler is not what it was in CR1.

Despite contrary belief I think that at least one interlock hacker build should exist in one form or the other.
Im sure alot would disagree with me which might be the reason for a possible adjustment, it wouldnt be the first time either.


Ascendent Logic

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i havent really noticed anything i got 230 ballistic and melee resistances so im never getting them awsome *CENSORED* damages even from sniper shots and only solid mas can compete with there hard *CENSORED* defenses compared with my accuracy other than that i havent noticed a thing since the patch.



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I hear ya Ignition, I too think something was happened to Accuracy and because of that and a few other things i have switched trees.  Yep, after nearly two years of being nothing but a hacker i have switched, i just can't take the glaring imbalances any longer.



Jacked Out

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Hackers definately need a few base points of accuracy more than what they have now.

It still seems to be that hackers must put on clothes to increase vir accuracy just to hit a reasonable number of times, while an MA can get away with next to none, and focus on their resistances.

However it does seem that hackers got a vir accuracy boost a few updates ago, I think we could use a few more points 10 or so by default.


Ascendent Logic

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Lol i hardly wear any VA while fighting and i pwn people just the same... i mean ya fair enough along with my resistance has accuracy or damage with it but not as much as if i was to equip wat i would agaist another hacker... Honestly no matter what they do to hacker im always gonna be able to win with it... u just gotta use the load right.



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Try hitting a martial artist who has hyper-deflect running, as well as a sakura bandana and maybe a troll's hide or some other such little buff.   When the martial artist is using block or grab (as I tend to do), it doesn't happen very often.  But then, that's about on the same level as other martial artists or spies - if I have the respective hypers running, they won't hit me very often either.  The only people who can get away with lots of hits in a row against a martial artist are gunners - snipers have gigantic acc buffs, and duelists have enough initiative bonuses that EVEN while I'm blocking, they can routinely hit 5 specials in a row.  It isn't that there's no love for hackers - there is, and I'm getting to that - it's just that there may be a little too much love for certain other trees.  Ahem, ahem.

Hackers have made a comeback since the last patch - I don't know whether something changed, or people just realized a new little way to do things, but the constant spam of plague zones and infectious codes (that's right, something did change - their D.O.T.) is starting to become routine in PvP.  Now I just wish they'd fix the FM tree so I can use it the way it was meant to be used.. SMILEY


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oh dear god what have i done...............................


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i recently switched one of my alts to hacker.  He only has a reason of 10 and has close to the same hit rate as my 50. 

MrMatador



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i have recently checked with a friend of mine who restated for hacker and put their points in the accuracy atrib.

then i checked it against mine as i only have 15 pts in accuracy.

then i did a double take.

theres only 10 points of accuracy in the diffrence from a half leveled and fully leveld accuracy atrib (sry cant rember the one off the top of my head, think its reason or percep)

but that either means that its accuracy at 15pts is insanley high (*cough yeah right) or it has the lowest max accuracy of any class, which i didnt need to check the numbers to realise.

and it being the only tree where 90% of its passive abilities have no value to someone acctually trying to hit someone else with hacks makes it all the more obvious.

i mean hacker is supposed to be the tree that is good at taking out mkt's and assassins but its currently the one that takes the most damage from them.


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It's true. I am his friend. It is reason phay. My accuracy as a hacker is 119 -120 tops WITH clothes and 30 reasona and full lvled ravager destroyer and one tht I cant remmeber. His accuracy was like 100-105. just no fair. I am old school hacker and havent played as such in months. I want the nerf nerfed! Don't nerf hackers, NERF SPY, GUNMEN.
 
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