Fen wrote:

Garu wrote:

It's positively the creepiest thing I've ever seen in MxO, aside from the eyes in the sky during beta.  The quote is definitely Trinity's when the Logos broke through the clouds in Revolutions.  I hope Wright did not get the BIP cuz we're probably all screwed if she did.  My other assumption is that the BIP was present and we finally caught a glimpse of its material form.

Needless to say, I'm stoked.

I have no idea what's going on in the story, what the heck Danielle Wright is doing back, and I'm still confused as to what the BIP is from when Halborn was looking for it.  Why are we screwed if Danielle Wright gets the BIP?

Danielle Wright alledges that she entered the Matrix as "a complete consciousness" when the Sentinels attacked her lab in the Real.  She now seeks the BIP probably with the same intentions as Halborn.  She wants a body again. 

The BIP is the program created by the Oracle that bestowed the One with "the power to reshape the Matrix as he saw fit".  If Wright acquires the powers of the One then its likely that we're all doomed.  I suppose the level of doom depends on your perspective.

Garu wrote:

The BIP is the program created by the Oracle that bestowed the One with "the power to reshape the Matrix as he saw fit".

Where did you hear that? That's not what the BIP did, as far as we've heard. It wasn't what made him the One. It had something to do with controlling bluepills, apparently, though I'm a little sceptical about that. I reckon Gray's either lying or doesn't know the truth either.

Procurator wrote:

Where did you hear that? That's not what the BIP did, as far as we've heard. It wasn't what made him the One. It had something to do with controlling bluepills, apparently, though I'm a little sceptical about that. I reckon Gray's either lying or doesn't know the truth either.

It's a presumption based on what we know about Neo, the prophecy, the Oracle and the actions of the BIP.  Neo contained a program within him that enabled him to be the One.  The BIP is recalling instances in Neo's life which leads me to believe that the BIP is the very same program that resided within him.  The BIP was created by the Oracle who also created the prophecy as a means of control for awakened humans.

To me, it all makes sense.

The BIP is the connection to the Source. It allows whoever possesses it to control not only the simulation (which is all the Oligarchs can do), but the Machines themselves.

Danielle Wright allows herself to be 'killed', but as the inventor of the EJP, I'd say she's probably got a few safeguards in place to prevent total erasure.

I like how the Merv liaison Tasvyder asked for a report on what we saw with the event about Silver's research and never heard from her again on it. Especially since I had that bluepill/Neo thing cracked open back then now I'm just going "Knew that". Meh...

What Shi said is more in line with what I imagine the BIP is: it's what gave Neo his powers over the Machines themselves. It's the second stage to the Oracle's gamble (the steps being 1. create the Smith problem, 2. give Neo crazy powers, 3. result being that Neo was the only one who could help the Machines and thus barter for peace).

After all, none of the other Ones had a BIP. This is a new thing which only Neo had (although why the Oracle made a second one that's now causing all these problems I don't know).

Procurator wrote:

After all, none of the other Ones had a BIP. This is a new thing which only Neo had (although why the Oracle made a second one that's now causing all these problems I don't know).

Personally, I believe that the BIP was in all of them but each time the One returned to the Source it was reset and found its way into the next "anomaly".  This one seems to be the same one that resided in Neo (judging purely on it having Neo's memories thus far).  The other that was created was most likely to balance the other so that the Machines were never in any true danger of defeat by the One. 

Perhaps Smith was a carrier of the second BIP.  I'm shooting in the dark with that thought though.

You guys may find it useful to put together a catalogue of exactly what has been said regarding the interface program.

Stuff that happened in 11.2 is pretty key to arriving at an understanding of what's going on, so I guess if you don't remember your crits very well then you may have to wait until they get into the archive.

Hey guys, remember when "Love" was what unlocked the hidden connection in the Ouroboros network? This was a very important connection between Neo and Trinity. Love was what seemed to have brought Neo back to life, and what Neo had in mind when he ripped through half the city to save Trinity. Halborn's obsession with Neo (and Trinity's fall after hacking the power nodes) is not something to be ignored when faced with this fact.

Plus, there's the "Wake Up, Neo..." message, and Trinity's "It's beautiful." I'm guessing if you were to look up the other quotes, such as "I'm not", "This isn't", and "impossible" in the Matrix movie scripts, you'd find more Neo or Trinity lines.

Plus, let's not forget what Seraph said: "it's remembering." It's been recording some information since The One found his powers and Smith was spreading, both in the Matrix and in the Real, and now it's moving all about the Matrix taking in all of the old information laying around under layers of new and changed code.

Maybe this means Neo's body and Trinity's body aren't completely forgotten in this story, since it's moving forward in time?

Rarebit wrote:

You guys may find it useful to put together a catalogue of exactly what has been said regarding the interface program.

Stuff that happened in 11.2 is pretty key to arriving at an understanding of what's going on, so I guess if you don't remember your crits very well then you may have to wait until they get into the archive.

I'll need to read the transcripts again, but all I remember is Gray (or was it Pace?) saying the BIP had something to do with monitoring or controlling redpills, or keeping them in check. But as I've said, I don't believe whoever said that was telling the truth.

Procurator wrote:

Rarebit wrote:

You guys may find it useful to put together a catalogue of exactly what has been said regarding the interface program.

Stuff that happened in 11.2 is pretty key to arriving at an understanding of what's going on, so I guess if you don't remember your crits very well then you may have to wait until they get into the archive.

I'll need to read the transcripts again, but all I remember is Gray (or was it Pace?) saying the BIP had something to do with monitoring or controlling redpills, or keeping them in check. But as I've said, I don't believe whoever said that was telling the truth.

Agent Gray said that at the meeting in 10 with Ms. Wright

Ah-hah, that was it! Thank you.

Well then. If it's what he said to Wright, it's even less likely to be true.

we killed her a few times where she suicided at half health, dropped decel and accel bits, then after a few times we actually killed her, see screenshot - nothing different happened, she respawnd again later and the drop was nothing different either.

Procurator wrote:

Ah-hah, that was it! Thank you.

Well then. If it's what he said to Wright, it's even less likely to be true.

Wait a sec. The BIP is emulating Trinity's behavior. Not Neo's. She relives moments that Trinity shared with Neo, says the words that Trinity said, etc.

What if the BIP was in Trinity? What if Trinity was some kind of control over Neo? The Architect expressed some surprise that Neo had no affinity for mankind as a whole, but more focused on just one person. Maybe it wasn't surprise, though. Maybe... maybe that was what they changed the sixth time around. Maybe that was what the Oracle changed for Neo.

She gave Trinity the BIP and told her that she would fall in love with the One.

Ooooh, Rarebit... I think you've gone too far this time, bro. You really going to ask us to believe that Neo and Trinity's love was a construct of the Oracle in order to control Neo so that he would do what was needed to be done to ensure peace between the two races? Aside from the fact that sounds like too much of a gamble for even the Oracle, that's a hard pill to swallow.

ShiXinFeng wrote:

Wait a sec. The BIP is emulating Trinity's behavior. Not Neo's. She relives moments that Trinity shared with Neo, says the words that Trinity said, etc.

What if the BIP was in Trinity? What if Trinity was some kind of control over Neo? The Architect expressed some surprise that Neo had no affinity for mankind as a whole, but more focused on just one person. Maybe it wasn't surprise, though. Maybe... maybe that was what they changed the sixth time around. Maybe that was what the Oracle changed for Neo.

She gave Trinity the BIP and told her that she would fall in love with the One.

Ooooh, Rarebit... I think you've gone too far this time, bro. You really going to ask us to believe that Neo and Trinity's love was a construct of the Oracle in order to control Neo so that he would do what was needed to be done to ensure peace between the two races? Aside from the fact that sounds like too much of a gamble for even the Oracle, that's a hard pill to swallow.

Wow! Now that does make sense of a lot of things...  A little radical, yes: but I like it!

Err... but does that explain why whomever controls the BIP, controls The Matrix?