[11.1.4] And don't *CENSORED* shoot it next time - Recursion - 8/29/08

**Niobe**

It's going to make it harder to find, that's all. But if it uses its signal variation again, we have a shot at picking it up. I just hope it hasn't finished whatever it's been up to at Wright Research yet.

**Neoteny** · 09/03/2008 06:33:22

...Well, *CENSORED*, some of us tried. I don't know what the hell those shooting it were doing. That was the dumbest *CENSORED* I have ever seen.

privaronT

This is why people who cant properly conduct themselves should be fully excluded at these things.

ReProgrammed

Very interesting.....wonder how it was changing it's RSI, Maybe it tapped into the simulation and was sorta browsing through a catalog....Interesting none the less. I will be keeping my open for anything that lacks full information.

**Tranque101**

Well I do admit, the Machines response time for "not shooting people that they were told not to shoot" was slightly faster. Otherwise, very intriguing this specimin is.

In addition, I love to see Niobe angry, keep it up. *snickers*

**Quark75**

It is so easy to point a finger at what others did wrong,

And sure it is not wise, to shoot, when its clear not to shoot it.

But hey.. u know what really makes me sad?

That the ones with the biggest pieholes, jacked out right after the event, and one was there any more, because they said it was late at their'e Midnight time, and a few others like me stayed, as it definitly was 4 am in the morning already for me, and we went back to wright building, to kick the last security over there, that some folks left standing.

For at least an hr, hanging there with Zions finest people.

And that more worth it to me.

Now.. i didnt made any work about rude remarks, there, here, and the next day.

But pls do remember, that every placed, remark. can have its consequences.

As some folks seem to forget, that others are just as good a veteran as they are, and some even more then that.

I find it dumb, that in every happening here, it are always the same RSIs, having a big mouth, leaving as first, and dare to say somethin about it, sparring ranks to much, instead of, working together, and set all noses in the same direction.

Respecting the ones also here walking the streets of Megacity for the same lenght of time, or even have more history here, has become a rare thing.

Morpheus among others would be ashamed, just by this last fact.

And that dear friends.... Is the Biggest problem, in our Zion, as it almost always has been in the past. Only gettin worse.....

**Neoteny** · 09/04/2008 10:11:34

Really, I appreciate the underhanded jab. No, really, I do.

I don't give a dammn about rank, seniority, whatever. Just because you've got a high NKL doesn't mean you've got my respect. Just because you've been around for a few years doesn't mean you've got my respect. Especially if you fall under either of these categories, you should be able to follow a simple command, like, oh, say, "DON'T SHOOT" as said by at least eight people at least eight times each. And it gravely worries me if you can't. Surely, if you can't pull your finger away from the trigger, you're not "Zion's finest."

As for why I had to jack out, it's none of your goddamn cocnern. I have reasons, I have obligations. I was lucky I had time enough to make the operation as it was, I didn't really need to hang around hearing several people telling me to calm down when I very clearly should not be calm. Any sort of complacency regarding that sort of situation clearly expresses that you don't even care enough about Zion's interests to confront those who act against them.

I'm not a pushover, and I couldn't care less if I am vilified for telling those imbeciles who fired to put down their arms. But if you're going to take that shot at me, you'd better take it at Niobe, first. And I bet she'll be about as happy about it as she was about some idiots shooting when she told them, several times, very clearly, not to.

The problem isn't that I can get in, follow orders and get out. It's that some people can get in and not follow orders. You're looking for Zion's biggest problem? That's it.

Learn to listen.

**Quark75**

Excuse me then Neoteny, for me having it all havin it all wrong..

I must be mistaken then since i didnt pull any trigger, didnt use one word like damnit or shut up, or plain rudeness,
giving advise.
And then if you wouldnt care so much.. about these things, then why u still tryin to make a point?
I know that i do not deserve respect the time in here, and all that ranking stuff, and that is not what i meant to say also.
I said, we are at the same rank, we are both zionist for around the same time.
I also said that we shouldnt do react so to each other, because, i dont need you respect on those, and also not expecting it,
however where i give it to other people, like yourself, ((and again i didnt fire one bullet, and honest to say scroll up to the picture where u are being healed, while containing it, was my heal.)) And did almost nothing else that event, with shots proving it, i get the craptalk from you and some buddy's i do know longer, and your former leaders as well, wich i had an allience made with, with the initiative to do so, coming from me years back.
Now obviously you saw this an attack, wich wasnt the purpose, the thing i meant to say with it, was just the truth, trying to make these things not happen again in Zion, where EPN has those things covered, the moment some one joins them.

I dont care about whom, jacks out, i know people have more to do, like myself also, but why.. make lots of noise, then go out, doin the same here, and then when i say what is seen by others and i also, reply again in the same "tone of voice" like u know it better. Nobody knows better, but Together we do.. on top of that>> do realize there eorpean vessels here too, and all of them , for any event, need to be here at 2am or later in the night, to actually experience events in the first place. If doesnt earn just a bit of the least respect, then i dont know ever will get some recspect around here.

Could be.. but i listen way to often, to this one way streets kinda talk, and see nothing happen.
I didnt even want your respect, if you handed it to me on a golden pillow, with a purple ribbon. i dont need it, i get from, folks more important to me, and the brethren, in Zion finest. u can still guess who that might be.. the problem is not, to not listen, it is doing, after u listened.
So if others around me, even belonging to my crew, or in our faction, disobey an order, or do not listen, all here are well aware, to see where they got wrong, and pay for that inn our own org/faction.
That is enough, cause it is a bummer already, without all talk about it. and we dont need others to tell us that, and certainly not in words you put it.
ONe thing clear then, we all are on the same side here, lets act that way then.
ANd maybe we all.. get somehwere in the future together...

So im sorry, u must have it all by the right end,
and i should probably Shut up.. as some say, or, i shouldnt be so trigger happy, where healed and rezzing folks all over the place, not even firing one bullet.
And i should probably then be a dumb ****, that is what, yall like to see right?

I know folks were wrong and they know too, and feel bad about it too, wich was the same reason for "Zion finest" to go with 'us'(wrong doing folks) a favor, just because he/she them, know.. this.. talk.. isnt motivating RSIs to do it well next time,
if not scaring newbs , so they wanna take the blue pill after being in theire own Ogranization's event.

if they get a tsunami of talks what they did wrong, fine ok..

Its ok, we all have freedom of speech, but dont come wining, if you cant take the insight of others, like me, or in this case myself, because.. im sorry to say so,
but i have the same right as you on the freedom to speak, and no one, in the whole matrix, or in the real, can say to me, to shut up..when im speakin more reason then rudeness.

im probably to much of a dutchman.. in a Hovercraft over here, to let it be said to me, by whomever.
I mean come on.. history man.. look it up.. google it for all i care.. but i doubt you want to know, and if you would know some about it, its probably not correct.

No sweat..
no problem..
just a thought.

Greetz mate
for Zion then..
Hoping on motivating talks rather then.. what we know.

TRX

Chamber

Neoteny wrote:

Really, I appreciate the underhanded jab. No, really, I do.
I don't give a dammn about rank, seniority, whatever. Just because you've got a high NKL doesn't mean you've got my respect. Just because you've been around for a few years doesn't mean you've got my respect. Especially if you fall under either of these categories, you should be able to follow a simple command, like, oh, say, "DON'T SHOOT" as said by at least eight people at least eight times each. And it gravely worries me if you can't. Surely, if you can't pull your finger away from the trigger, you're not "Zion's finest."
As for why I had to jack out, it's none of your goddamn cocnern. I have reasons, I have obligations. I was lucky I had time enough to make the operation as it was, I didn't really need to hang around hearing several people telling me to calm down when I very clearly should not be calm. Any sort of complacency regarding that sort of situation clearly expresses that you don't even care enough about Zion's interests to confront those who act against them.
I'm not a pushover, and I couldn't care less if I am vilified for telling those imbeciles who fired to put down their arms. But if you're going to take that shot at me, you'd better take it at Niobe, first. And I bet she'll be about as happy about it as she was about some idiots shooting when she told them, several times, very clearly, not to.
The problem isn't that I can get in, follow orders and get out. It's that some people can get in and not follow orders. You're looking for Zion's biggest problem? That's it.
Learn to listen.

ROFL

/agreed..

**eval**

People sometimes have other things to do other than play a video game. Sometimes their house catches on fire.

I think the people who couldn't contain themselves will learn from this to perhaps think a bit more about the situation or pay attention from now on.

privaronT

eval wrote:

People sometimes have other things to do other than play a video game. Sometimes their house catches on fire.

I think the people who couldn't contain themselves will learn from this to perhaps think a bit more about the situation or pay attention from now on.

Thats what wireless internets for

Danger_Frog1471

You know what i'm happy some 2wat shot the...thing. Not because i hate zion or something as stupid as that but lets face it: It added variety to a rather plain and simple operation. If someone wanted to kill it that wasnt part of zion it was going to happen anyway. It brings back that old feeling of actually being in control, granted its still gonna continue the way it should but now we've been unexpectedly held back...

sure get annoyed... in character but really outside the box, thats life. Jackasses exist SMILEY

**shearman**

Danger_Frog1471 wrote:

You know what i'm happy some 2wat shot the...thing. Not because i hate zion or something as stupid as that but lets face it: It added variety to a rather plain and simple operation.

The information it may have provided could have done the same thing. Or capturing it instead of killing it may have given us something very valuable.

Danger_Frog1471

shearman wrote:

Danger_Frog1471 wrote:
You know what i'm happy some 2wat shot the...thing. Not because i hate zion or something as stupid as that but lets face it: It added variety to a rather plain and simple operation.
The information it may have provided could have done the same thing. Or capturing it instead of killing it may have given us something very valuable.

Yes but the point was it was played out as if the information was wanted and... it wasn't attained. Which as far as i was concerned wasn't the plan and therefore real life imitated itself in this situation when some unknown variable in a plan was created and effected the outcome. This has never been an option in live events and i'm glad to see it was allowed to happen, then again if it wasn't the plan why didn't rare stop it with some dev magic (: lol Anyway yay for player shaping storylines i hope to see more of it and if possible bigger ripple effects too >.<