Shadow Griever wrote:

GamiSB wrote:

Shadow Griever wrote:

Tranta wrote:

Eh... there's a time and a place for my personal beliefs, man. Some other time, eh?

- Tranta

I rest my case. Thanks for playing

oh, and Ebola, when Veil sent that hovership to crash into the docks, did you guys all think the wreckage would just miracle itself around the civillians?

Murder doesn't get you what you want, it only makes the other sides mad.

You obvously have a very limited world history as the murder(or assassination in this case) of one person was the spark of the first world war. No I believe murder can get you exactly what you want if you know how to use it.

I've always seen assassination as an elimination of a singular entity. MLK, Malcolm X, JFK, RFK, John Lennon, Medgar Evers, Ghandi, they were assassinated.

Oh, WWI, if I recall, roughly ten million soldiers died in that war, all because one Archduke got popped by an Bosnian Serb who wanted freedom for his people from the Austrian-Hungry Empire. Soon though, it turned into a complete balls up, and Sarajevo and Ferdinand were barely memories. Ten Million dead because of one dead Archduke.

That my friend is a waste

And in case anyone is keeping score, no one has answered exactly how this gets them back in the pods, or if that is no longer the case, what is their goal?

A waste maybe but none the less that one murder created a way for someone else to attempt at getting what they wanted. Yes it was a gamble but war always is. You either win it all or loose it and as I said it can get you exactly what you want if you know how to use it.

As for your last statment that is very true and i doubt they have a reason for it. Also I guess for all "politcal" reasons I should state that while I believe murder, war, and anything associated with death of a person or peoples can be a means to get what you want I am in no way saying that it should be used in an effort to do so.

GamiSB wrote:

Shadow Griever wrote:

GamiSB wrote:

Shadow Griever wrote:

Tranta wrote:

Eh... there's a time and a place for my personal beliefs, man. Some other time, eh?

- Tranta

I rest my case. Thanks for playing

oh, and Ebola, when Veil sent that hovership to crash into the docks, did you guys all think the wreckage would just miracle itself around the civillians?

Murder doesn't get you what you want, it only makes the other sides mad.

You obvously have a very limited world history as the murder(or assassination in this case) of one person was the spark of the first world war. No I believe murder can get you exactly what you want if you know how to use it.

I've always seen assassination as an elimination of a singular entity. MLK, Malcolm X, JFK, RFK, John Lennon, Medgar Evers, Ghandi, they were assassinated.

Oh, WWI, if I recall, roughly ten million soldiers died in that war, all because one Archduke got popped by an Bosnian Serb who wanted freedom for his people from the Austrian-Hungry Empire. Soon though, it turned into a complete balls up, and Sarajevo and Ferdinand were barely memories. Ten Million dead because of one dead Archduke.

That my friend is a waste

And in case anyone is keeping score, no one has answered exactly how this gets them back in the pods, or if that is no longer the case, what is their goal?

A waste maybe but none the less that one murder created a way for someone else to attempt at getting what they wanted. Yes it was a gamble but war always is. You either win it all or loose it and as I said it can get you exactly what you want if you know how to use it.

As for your last statment that is very true and i doubt they have a reason for it. Also I guess for all "politcal" reasons I should state that while I believe murder, war, and anything associated with death of a person or peoples can be a means to get what you want I am in no way saying that it should be used in an effort to do so.

It's being used in an effort to do so...

I think you misinturpreted my argument. I was never argueing that murder is right. I am very much aware that it is being used as an effort to gain something and being EPN am sure I've seen more of it from the Cypherite then Zion has in these past few months.

My argument was in you saying that nothing can be gained in murder, which something can be gained if done so correctly.

Shadow Griever wrote:

GamiSB wrote:

Shadow Griever wrote:

GamiSB wrote:

Shadow Griever wrote:

Tranta wrote:

Eh... there's a time and a place for my personal beliefs, man. Some other time, eh?

- Tranta

I rest my case. Thanks for playing

oh, and Ebola, when Veil sent that hovership to crash into the docks, did you guys all think the wreckage would just miracle itself around the civillians?

Murder doesn't get you what you want, it only makes the other sides mad.

You obvously have a very limited world history as the murder(or assassination in this case) of one person was the spark of the first world war. No I believe murder can get you exactly what you want if you know how to use it.

I've always seen assassination as an elimination of a singular entity. MLK, Malcolm X, JFK, RFK, John Lennon, Medgar Evers, Ghandi, they were assassinated.

Oh, WWI, if I recall, roughly ten million soldiers died in that war, all because one Archduke got popped by an Bosnian Serb who wanted freedom for his people from the Austrian-Hungry Empire. Soon though, it turned into a complete balls up, and Sarajevo and Ferdinand were barely memories. Ten Million dead because of one dead Archduke.

That my friend is a waste

And in case anyone is keeping score, no one has answered exactly how this gets them back in the pods, or if that is no longer the case, what is their goal?

A waste maybe but none the less that one murder created a way for someone else to attempt at getting what they wanted. Yes it was a gamble but war always is. You either win it all or loose it and as I said it can get you exactly what you want if you know how to use it.

As for your last statment that is very true and i doubt they have a reason for it. Also I guess for all "politcal" reasons I should state that while I believe murder, war, and anything associated with death of a person or peoples can be a means to get what you want I am in no way saying that it should be used in an effort to do so.

It's being used in an effort to do so...

I think you misinturpreted my argument. I was never argueing that murder is right. I am very much aware that it is being used as an effort to gain something and being EPN am sure I've seen more of it from the Cypherite then Zion has in these past few months.

My argument was in you saying that nothing can be gained in murder, which something can be gained if done so correctly.

Shadow Griever wrote:

Tranta wrote:

Eh... there's a time and a place for my personal beliefs, man. Some other time, eh?

- Tranta

I rest my case. Thanks for playing

oh, and Ebola, when Veil sent that hovership to crash into the docks, did you guys all think the wreckage would just miracle itself around the civillians?

Murder doesn't get you what you want, it only makes the other sides mad.

You obvously have a very limited world history as the murder(or assassination in this case) of one person was the spark of the first world war. No I believe murder can get you exactly what you want if you know how to use it.

What?! Come on! The First World War was catalysed by the Assassination of Franz Ferdinand, but if the two alliances hadn't been p*ssing each other off for nearly 2 decades beforehand, then there may never have been an assassination, let alone a goddam war.

Man! And you people wonder why we stereotype EPN, when people like GamiSB represent you and your knowledge of 'World History'... Eesh.

And Greiver, if you think that my not wanting to discuss beleifs that I have shared with others on a public relay node 'loses' this little tiff, then you're as shallow as Gami thinks. Catch me in the Matrix sometime, and we'll talk it over.

- Tranta.

Killing innocents? We've only hit military targets in and out of the Matrix. Its a war, people die... get used to it, its only going to get worse.

We kill to protect those that sleep.  We kill to allow them an uninterrupted dream of bliss.  We kill and kill and will continue to kill whether it pleases you or not.  Call it a crusade, campaign, war, noble cause or anything else that comforts you but in the end we won't hesitate to pull the trigger.

We are cypherites and your life means nothing to us.  Get in our way and we'll take it from you.

We kill to protect those that sleep.  We kill to allow them an uninterrupted dream of bliss.  We kill and kill and will continue to kill whether it pleases you or not.  Call it a crusade, campaign, war, noble cause or anything else that comforts you but in the end we won't hesitate to pull the trigger.

We are cypherites and your life means nothing to us.  Get in our way and we'll take it from you.

 

We kill to protect those that sleep.  We kill to allow them an uninterrupted dream of bliss.  We kill and kill and will continue to kill whether it pleases you or not.  Call it a crusade, campaign, war, noble cause or anything else that comforts you but in the end we won't hesitate to pull the trigger.

We are cypherites and your life means nothing to us.  Get in our way and we'll take it from you.

 

We kill to protect those that sleep.  We kill to allow them an uninterrupted dream of bliss.  We kill and kill and will continue to kill whether it pleases you or not.  Call it a crusade, campaign, war, noble cause or anything else that comforts you but in the end we won't hesitate to pull the trigger.

We are cypherites and your life means nothing to us.  Get in our way and we'll take it from you.

 

GamiSB wrote:

Shadow Griever wrote:

Tranta wrote:

Eh... there's a time and a place for my personal beliefs, man. Some other time, eh?

- Tranta

I rest my case. Thanks for playing

oh, and Ebola, when Veil sent that hovership to crash into the docks, did you guys all think the wreckage would just miracle itself around the civillians?

Murder doesn't get you what you want, it only makes the other sides mad.

You obvously have a very limited world history as the murder(or assassination in this case) of one person was the spark of the first world war. No I believe murder can get you exactly what you want if you know how to use it.

What?! Come on! The First World War was catalysed by the Assassination of Franz Ferdinand, but if the two alliances hadn't been p*ssing each other off for nearly 2 decades beforehand, then there may never have been an assassination, let alone a goddam war.

Man! And you people wonder why we stereotype EPN, when people like GamiSB represent you and your knowledge of 'World History'... Eesh.

And Greiver, if you think that my not wanting to discuss beleifs that I have shared with others on a public relay node 'loses' this little tiff, then you're as shallow as Gami thinks. Catch me in the Matrix sometime, and we'll talk it over.

- Tranta.

You missed the point interitly. Someone took a murder and tried to gain something from it. Thus you can use murder for gain. That was the point.