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Systemic Anomaly

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Vinia wrote:
ShiXinFeng wrote:
No member of EPN is considered by its leadership to be tools, though. That's the difference. EPN, to a man, chooses to be EPN. And if we woke up tomorrow wanting to leave EPN's ranks and return to Zion, we could do so freely without fear of being hunted down and killed by those who we once called friend.

your response only proves my point; if you were the efficient tool that the Machines wanted you to be, there would be no need for the Cypherites, eh? You are damaged goods to them, a liability that simply hasn't made it to the garbage can yet.

That you expect the Machines to change their opinions of humans, even those tools who work for them, is naive at best. Why don't you ask Gray the next time you see him what he would do if you decided to leave the Machine ranks...

Yet if that EPN were to decide that neither Zion and EPN were his/her best choice and decided to go and work for the Merovingian, are you telling me that neither Zion nor EPN would hunt them down as traitors? The actions of the Machines are swift, if we were a liability, we'd have beenbinned by now. Ask yourself why we havent.

huh? You can't have been gone from Zion that long?

Zion Command would never order someone killed just because they choose to go work for the Merv or the Machines.

And you haven't been 'binned' because you Machinists still have your uses. I didn't say you were useless to them. Just not as efficient as they would like.

Besides, isn't it easier to control what is directly under your thumb?

 

 




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ShiXinFeng wrote:
huh? You can't have been gone from Zion that long?

Zion Command would never order someone killed just because they choose to go work for the Merv or the Machines.

And you haven't been 'binned' because you Machinists still have your uses. I didn't say you were useless to them. Just not as efficient as they would like.

Besides, isn't it easier to control what is directly under your thumb?

I can't remember Agent Gray or Agent Pace ordering someone killed for leaving Machinists. Zion command may not have ordered it, but I was certainly attacked on numerous occasions by Zion operatives starting the moment I chose to join the Machinists.

No they may have given specific orders, but then again it's easy to manipulate those who are succeptable to indoctrination.

Message edited by Croesis on 08/11/2008 15:45:09.


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If the Machines didn't want anyone leaving their employ, there would be killcodes for each and every one of us, and anyone who tried to leave would be dead.  Still, it's always a shame when people give up the chance for cooperation and head back down the path of fear and hatred...

I remember some early missions I was sent on, soon after the truce went into effect.  I had to deliver a dossier to another Machine operative, but just as I'd given it to him, his former Zion crewmates showed up.  They were there to kill him.  (This was very early on, perhaps he didn't have a working EJP.)  They were screaming "kill the traitors of Zion"...very sad, considering how much they claim to value choice! 

 

 

Illyria




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Illyria22 wrote:

If the Machines didn't want anyone leaving their employ, there would be killcodes for each and every one of us, and anyone who tried to leave would be dead.  Still, it's always a shame when people give up the chance for cooperation and head back down the path of fear and hatred...

I remember some early missions I was sent on, soon after the truce went into effect.  I had to deliver a dossier to another Machine operative, but just as I'd given it to him, his former Zion crewmates showed up.  They were there to kill him.  (This was very early on, perhaps he didn't have a working EJP.)  They were screaming "kill the traitors of Zion"...very sad, considering how much they claim to value choice! 

 

 

Illyria

Ah-ah-ah! no fair chiming in on the tangent unless you contribute to the original idea!

Besides, the whole of Zion can hardly be accountable for one crew hellbent on revenge, right? I mean, Cryptos was only one overwritt-- oops, oh wait. . . 


 
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