Image Retrieval - November 8, 2006

**Rarebit**

Cervacius wrote:

Oh Sweet Merciful Crap! That's awesome. Finally, people will stop causing random fights during LE meetings, etc.
The only thing is, now the entire Polyvinyl club on Vector will have that annoying blue haze around it for eternity. I'm not personally on that server, so I really don't care. However, I know I would hate it. You don't think you could dissable the graphic for the permanant ones and just leave the system message? Just for the permanant ones. Temps need some sort of graphic to be aware.

In underground clubs, the effect shouldn't be visible because I'd use a larger one than the one used in that screenshot, so it would be underground beyond the club walls, where you couldn't see it.

And I think I would restrict it to underground clubs anyway, since otherwise it's a bit tricky to manage their area of effect. So yeah, Messiah is probably a prime candidate for DT... Maybe the secret club...

Tenshi

Not sure if this was brought up already...but are there plans to have this sort of thing implemented on all servers? SMILEY

**GypsyJuggler**

For those who weren't paying attention:

"In the next update, Rarebit will probably place one on Polyvinyl dance floor in Vector, as a trial run. If it works out, he'll probably pick one or two clubs per district and place permanent Pacification Zones in them. "

None of this is permanent yet, especially Polyvinyl.

Well done Devs, but that guy who mentioned luggables was right. What's gonna happen there?

**Rarebit**

The permanent ones would be in the same places on all servers.

I remember having a talk with Dracomet about luggables and Pacification Zones, and he's the guy writing the code for these things, so I think he has it handled, or will by the time they come out.

bonobi

Secret Club!?!?!?!?!?!?

Surely you jest....

I think you're referring to Club Waffle SMILEY

**Kazuki21**

An awesome update.
As a RPer, I hope we will have the zones on Recursion. It will help us a lot for RP event, organizational meeting and hanging out (They are often ruined by flagged PvPers).

**Chimaere**

Nice news, indeed. But I think, this ability should be mine. Together with some doves around me... SMILEY

The Phalanx is peacefull! We do not attack Zion. We do not attack the Machines.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men and programs are created equal. That they are endowed by their creator and with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Best wishes,

Chimaere

**deviljonny**

lol loving it, and only having a few clubs non-pvp is better then all

**Therinwhitten**

Bayamo wrote:

Org controlled clubs would be good... but just a
de-pvp-zone on Vector with nothing else behind it sort of defies the
entire purpose of Vector. If people can go run into a "safe zone"
whenever they're being chased - especially at Mara, of all places,
just... wow. /face and /follow are already getting nerfed... as if it
wasn't easy enough to escape from pvp?

I do recognize that this will be good for events and parties and such, but other aspects of
the server lead me to question if this is a good idea or not,
especially given the LOCATION of such a zone.

I agree. Maybe paralaxis? . A safe zone that close to mara c would definately start some new flaming. The idea is good, having safer places for rp and live events.

**bannanaphone**

bonobi wrote:

Secret Club!?!?!?!?!?!?

Surely you jest....

I think you're referring to Club Waffle

what he said!

**Garu**

This is a very promising idea. Thanks devs!!

WGAnubis1

Ikkaku wrote:

This is wrong.

That system may be useful in some cases, but permanent installation is wrong.

Suggesting that we are incapable of peaceful multi-org gatherings is insulting, accepting that assessment as truth is far worse.

Despite popular belief, Vectorites are capable of restraint. we do not need permanent nullification fields in our world.

/disagree (x2)

That may be true but on the same token what exactly is wrong with having a single club in each area declared and enforced as a nutrial zone? Sure people may use it as a safe point when being pursued by rival orgs but if the clubs selected when its permantly implimented are out of the way areas then the chances are that are rather low.

If the tests show that its abused, im sure then Rarebit will reserve this ability for multi org meeting events and the such to keep party crashers at bay.

[CoZ]LostProphet

Ikkaku wrote:

This is wrong.

That system may be useful in some cases, but permanent installation is wrong.

Suggesting that we are incapable of peaceful multi-org gatherings is insulting, accepting that assessment as truth is far worse.

Despite popular belief, Vectorites are capable of restraint. we do not need permanent nullification fields in our world.

/disagree (x2)

I'm sorry, you must be from a parallel universe!
I was on a hostile server in one form or another for over a year. Suggesting that Vector is incapable of peaceful multi-org gatherings is absolutely spot on.
Sure some of the biggest *unpleasant person* have left/been banned since I went away, but there's always one joker who leaps in and starts a fight.
And it's common knowledge that the PvP server of any game always attracts the most immature idiots with a huge lack of restraint, Vector is no oddity to that - permanent fields have always been needed there, and will be a welcome addition.

**Ikkaku**

Thank you for your responses, both of you make valid points and we loved the "spot on" comment SMILEY

Yes it is true, there are those immature players that must be dealt with in some fashion.
This idea seems to be favored by all, so perhaps we should wait for the test period and make our decisions then.

We've just returned from the "secret club" it is very impressive and would make an excellent choice. Please consider using it.

No we are not from a parallel universe, maybe our unique perspective stems from us not associating or interacting with such immature and disruptive players. We generally have a good time on Vector and are not abused by anyone. We have attended several gatherings at which we were the only ones from our org and are almost always treated with respect. Besides, we have seen methods of disruption that are FAR worse than just PvP.

It really comes down to maturity and respect for other players, if we as whole have to be neutered in order to act civilized then so be it.

/bowhead (x2)

CLAUDIUS

awesome!!! this will be great for RP...