Neoteny wrote: If that makes us all demons in your eyes, then so be it, I'd rather be alive and demonized than a dead saint. So you'd rather be alive and evil than dead and good? Thanks for clearing that up for us.
If that makes us all demons in your eyes, then so be it, I'd rather be alive and demonized than a dead saint.
Zion's leaders seem to know the terms of the truce, because they knew the Machines would look at what they'd done as breaking the truce. You might want to ask Niobe and Lock what the terms were.
Illyria
The Machines do, but Machinists don't.
You got it, chief.Apparently, I can save more people as a devil, anyway. If I've got to pay for that in the afterlife, I gladly will.After all, what's my life in respect to what your own liaison has identified as millions? Nothing, that's what.
Apparently, I can save more people as a devil, anyway. If I've got to pay for that in the afterlife, I gladly will.
After all, what's my life in respect to what your own liaison has identified as millions? Nothing, that's what.
Satta wrote:Okay let's get back to the Matrix now. The only way to get there is together. But if Zion is unable or unwilling to quiet the radical Zionites who continue to be a threat to the Matrix and bluepills by attacking the Machines then we will take them out ourselves. We must rid this cancer in humanity so that humanity can live. We don't attack the Machines, we don't have the means.They attack us, and I'll be damned if we won't defend ourselves.If that makes us all demons in your eyes, then so be it, I'd rather be alive and demonized than a dead saint.((Man, I hope the brothers W. are reading this stuff, I think they'd finally see that this little project is easily living up to the franchise.))
Okay let's get back to the Matrix now. The only way to get there is together. But if Zion is unable or unwilling to quiet the radical Zionites who continue to be a threat to the Matrix and bluepills by attacking the Machines then we will take them out ourselves. We must rid this cancer in humanity so that humanity can live.
We don't attack the Machines, we don't have the means.
They attack us, and I'll be damned if we won't defend ourselves.
((Man, I hope the brothers W. are reading this stuff, I think they'd finally see that this little project is easily living up to the franchise.))
Morpheus : The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around. What do you see?
people are still a part of that system, and that makes them our enemy.
As long as people in Zion actually believe this crap TC will be there to protect bluepills from Zionites. I wish there was a TC presence before my father was killed by careless Zionites.
"Niobe, you were thankful that Neo bought you two years. But if you'd abided by the truce, he could have bought you *forever*." - Illyria
((I agree I wonder if the W brothers have even thought this type of debate could occur. This is the best thing for the Matrix since the game went live.))
Neoteny wrote:You got it, chief. Apparently, I can save more people as a devil, anyway. If I've got to pay for that in the afterlife, I gladly will.After all, what's my life in respect to what your own liaison has identified as millions? Nothing, that's what. It's not the destination, but the journey that matters. How you accomplish your goals means just as much as accomplishing them.
You got it, chief. Apparently, I can save more people as a devil, anyway. If I've got to pay for that in the afterlife, I gladly will.After all, what's my life in respect to what your own liaison has identified as millions? Nothing, that's what.
Like I said, I'm going to do everything I can to save as many lives as I can. If that makes me a devil, I'll pay for it later, and without regret.
By the way, that "lives" is indiscriminatory and includes bluepills, in case you were wondering.
Neoteny wrote:Satta wrote:Okay let's get back to the Matrix now. The only way to get there is together. But if Zion is unable or unwilling to quiet the radical Zionites who continue to be a threat to the Matrix and bluepills by attacking the Machines then we will take them out ourselves. We must rid this cancer in humanity so that humanity can live. We don't attack the Machines, we don't have the means.They attack us, and I'll be damned if we won't defend ourselves.If that makes us all demons in your eyes, then so be it, I'd rather be alive and demonized than a dead saint.((Man, I hope the brothers W. are reading this stuff, I think they'd finally see that this little project is easily living up to the franchise.))Morpheus : The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around. What do you see? Business people, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system, and that makes them our enemy. As long as people in Zion actually believe this crap TC will be there to protect bluepills from Zionites. I wish there was a TC presence before my father was killed by careless Zionites."Niobe, you were thankful that Neo bought you two years. But if you'd abided by the truce, he could have bought you *forever*." - Illyria((I agree I wonder if the W brothers have even thought this type of debate could occur. This is the best thing for the Matrix since the game went live.))
Crossover wrote:It has, is, and always will be Zion's agenda to promote freedom. . . and to defend it by any means she feels is necessary. When you have something as vital, as important and as precious as that to protect in your home, you can't afford to not be ready for any possible outcome. Its unfortunate not everyone is willing to understand the importance of that. If I were a machinist I would be preaching to the machines with all my heart to not retract the truce simply because Zion's protecting herself. But thats just me. It's up to each individual to decide whether they believe New Zion is really this 'military build up' that the Machine is painting us out to be. But keep in mind no one can be told what New Zion is...you have to see if for yourself. The Machinists are not your keepers. We will not go to the Machines begging them to forgive you for doing something that your leaders *knew* would be construed as breaking the truce. If you want the truce back so badly, talk to them yourselves. Illyria
It has, is, and always will be Zion's agenda to promote freedom. . . and to defend it by any means she feels is necessary. When you have something as vital, as important and as precious as that to protect in your home, you can't afford to not be ready for any possible outcome. Its unfortunate not everyone is willing to understand the importance of that. If I were a machinist I would be preaching to the machines with all my heart to not retract the truce simply because Zion's protecting herself. But thats just me. It's up to each individual to decide whether they believe New Zion is really this 'military build up' that the Machine is painting us out to be. But keep in mind no one can be told what New Zion is...you have to see if for yourself.
The Machinists are not your keepers. We will not go to the Machines begging them to forgive you for doing something that your leaders *knew* would be construed as breaking the truce. If you want the truce back so badly, talk to them yourselves.
can some one show my any copy of the truce beucase i never got to see one
