Wow. That guy really knows how to kill level 1 exiles.

Mm.

You see, I'm seeing highly respected people like PBlade and ZeroMark come out and condemn Sarv. Yet Morpheus' Legacy continues to defend a guy who lied to his first mate about his family. So who knows what lies he told the blue pills he tried awakening? See, normally I'd say something about you guys needing to change direction and make it official that you've joined EPN...but even they condemned this guy! So where does that leave you guys? I mean, are you really trying to support someone as sick as Sarv just to try and frame us as Cypherites? You're a little too ready to try and group us Machines as Cypherites. Makes me wonder really...

Your last line in this screen is what we find unacceptable and disturbing.

Feel free to explain.

Yasamuu1 wrote:

Mm.

You see, I'm seeing highly respected people like PBlade and ZeroMark come out and condemn Sarv. Yet Morpheus' Legacy continues to defend a guy who lied to his first mate about his family. So who knows what lies he told the blue pills he tried awakening? See, normally I'd say something about you guys needing to change direction and make it official that you've joined EPN...but even they condemned this guy! So where does that leave you guys? I mean, are you really trying to support someone as sick as Sarv just to try and frame us as Cypherites? You're a little too ready to try and group us Machines as Cypherites. Makes me wonder really...

Your last line in this screen is what we find unacceptable and disturbing.

Feel free to explain.

Hey nice dodge! You guys are good at trying to pass the buck on.

Explanation: Figure of speach. I have a good relationship with Mercidos, we go way back from his days as a machine. He thanked me and I responded with a pleasantry.

Joakim wrote:

Wow. That guy really knows how to kill level 1 exiles.

They were all level 55, actually.

You know, I feel happy for Cryptos. He spent so much time under that whackadoo's white polished thumb...

((And now I have my answer as to whether or not they are still using Veil/Toorima's backstory.))

So? It's not like SC has a problem with working with Cypherites as long as they aren't going after Zion at the time (even though they WERE apparently, Veil at least tried to use it as such, though I'm sure SC would tell you it wasn't their intention) .

This operation was about bringing Sarv to justice, I'm not sure how Zion were affected here? So yeah, you're right to say we'll tell you it wasn't out intention  

It's not like this was the first time or anything. What's so special about this one? Hell, they're pretty much justified even. Though I wonder about DJ.

You'll find SC will aid Cypherites in a situation like this one.

Everyone wonders about DJ...

On the death of Sarv's first mate: It's partially his own fault for lying, but two wrongs don't make a right either.. He should have confronted Sarv about his lying, rather than go to the Cyphs for help. Of course, this is assuming all of what Dreami said on the matter is true, I haven't been able to keep up with it myself.

I'll agree with that, though, he should have been able to handle the situation better. Though when you're bluepill family comes looking for you, it might be a bit of a shock to the system.

 

I had a bad feeling about Sarv from the start. His intentions sounded good yet he's always been a bit of a loose cannon, even in comparision to some of E Pluribus Neo. That being said, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and agreed to assist him in defending the bluepills from any Cypherites.

Now, I'd like to clarify that cold blooded murder is something I try to steer clear of, if at all possible. Sure, there are times when you have to get down and dirty and I've got no problem with that. What Sarv was doing however was wrong.

Unlike giving the bluepills a choice of seeing the truth, he was using the fact that the lives of the overwritten bluepills had been shattered in some way to persuade them into taking the redpill, to "start a new life". This is why, along with his actions of killing, I did not want EPN to be any further part in his actions. There's this theory going around that we ourselves persuade bluepills in this manner and frankly I'm sick of it.

Perhaps by our actions in this you may see that we don't agree with this sort of persuasion in any way and only give the choice of a pill to those who are truely ready.

For Neo,

Khepril

No Mercio, Sarv's ship was called the Soltice.  Thanks for paying attention.