No, not yet. On decline.
No.
Making a poll about if the game is dead say's it all....really.
tsk..tsk.
I'm just confused as to what the big differences are since Rarebit left. I mean, hasn't it been like this for....a while? Why all the uproar about it now that he's gone?
From what I understand, wasn't exactly the cool kids' table when he was here...
MatrixRefugee wrote:
If people reallly cared about this game, they wouldn't be howling about how dead it is. If you want it to stay alive, then roll up your sleeves and Do Something To Keep It Alive. This kind of attitude will only succeed in scaring off new players and older ones coming back, thus genuinely killing off the game. Is that what you really want? Is it?!One of the things that stuck with me from the video segment about MxO, on the DVD of Revolutions, in the boxed set, was one of the Monolith developers (I think) saying something like "This will turn the Matrix universe over to its fans." Well, it looks like that has happened. Instead of looking at Rarebit's depature, etc. as an ending, look at it as a new beginning.
If people reallly cared about this game, they wouldn't be howling about how dead it is. If you want it to stay alive, then roll up your sleeves and Do Something To Keep It Alive. This kind of attitude will only succeed in scaring off new players and older ones coming back, thus genuinely killing off the game. Is that what you really want? Is it?!
One of the things that stuck with me from the video segment about MxO, on the DVD of Revolutions, in the boxed set, was one of the Monolith developers (I think) saying something like "This will turn the Matrix universe over to its fans." Well, it looks like that has happened. Instead of looking at Rarebit's depature, etc. as an ending, look at it as a new beginning.
The whole point of MxO, is that MxO was to be (and was from Beta in 2004 up until November 2008 ) a dynamic, interactive, storyline driven game. Now its a dead , empty land. For what we have now, we might as well just code up a Mara Central in Second Life, and save $15 a month.
It baffles me that some people are still so vehement about "My SOE right or wrong!" Sometimes I think if they deleted all of their characters' levels, deleted all of their inventory, deleted their emails and only let them log into the Loading Area they would still lash out at people questioning the wisdom and benevolence of SOE for giving us these blessed scraps.
I wish one of them would please explain to me what exactly we are getting for $15 a month now. Because I really don't know. Maybe some of them have money to burn but most of us don't.
I just don't get it, its like people getting angry at everyone who is mad that AIG paid out those bonuses to the executives who drove the company into the ground and stuck us with the bill. It makes absolutely no sense to me.
And as far as "negative vibes" putting people off, maybe if we werent cast of into the rubbish heap then there wouldn't be those negative vibes. Cause leads to effect. Nothing happens in a vacuum. And, this is not Tinkerbell coming back to life just because we all wish it6 to be so.
And yes, if it means we are no longer being shafted and taken advantage of, even though it upsets some of the Pollyannas in the crowd, then yes I actually do hope the game fails and dies. I'd rather have overall good memories of the game then have it live on as a brain dead vegetable with 3 players. I'd rather have it die with dignity.
Proximisio wrote:
Neoteny wrote:Fen wrote:Vaico wrote: 1. Yes.2. Yes. Anyone who thinks otherwise is honestly delusional.
Neoteny wrote:
Fen wrote:Vaico wrote: 1. Yes.2. Yes. Anyone who thinks otherwise is honestly delusional.
Fen wrote:
Vaico wrote: 1. Yes.2. Yes. Anyone who thinks otherwise is honestly delusional.
Vaico wrote:
1. Yes.
2. Yes. Anyone who thinks otherwise is honestly delusional.
This.
There's been a lot of complaining here lately, just as there have been odd fantasies about how somehow things will go back to being how they used to be, that some campaign of valiant players will somehow slay the SOE giant into and usher in a new era of prosperity for MXO. It won't accomplish anything. Everything dies. That's a fact of life. It's time to move on from thinking about the past, and to find other things to do with our lives than endlessly revisiting this stagnant corpse.
Bayamos wrote:
There's been a lot of complaining here lately, just as there have been odd fantasies about how somehow things will go back to being how they used to be, that some campaign of valiant players will somehow slay the SOE giant into and usher in a new era of prosperity for MXO. It won't accomplish anything. Everything dies. That's a fact of life.
I agree. Still there's nothing wrong to enjoy what's left until they pull the plugs.
Not yet.
It's dead when they pull the switch. Until then it's just a shadow of its former self and all that remains is a place to hang out with friends and remember the good times.
Can it be saved? That depends really on the community. If SOE decided tomorrow to embrace the potential of the game and provided the dev team and tools to make it great again...could you move past your disappointments and give it another chance?
As a new player...
Sin wrote:
As a new player...No.No.
That's the spirit.
As a new player I say:
1. No - The Game is dead when the Servers are down forever. But right now there are enough players around the Servers. And newcomers are on there way into the MxO.
2. No - It´s never to late to do something. Well the Story is in the hand of the players. But I think that isn´t a big problem. Okay It would be better with a dev, but since I never saw the past times of the MxO I miss nothing atm. Okay Live Events and meeting the Live Chars would be great, but when you never saw this times, you think different about the whole Game. This is my personal oppinion about this.
DarkDevil1986 wrote:
As a new player I say: 1. No - The Game is dead when the Servers are down forever. But right now there are enough players around the Servers. And newcomers are on there way into the MxO.2. No - It´s never to late to do something. Well the Story is in the hand of the players. But I think that isn´t a big problem. Okay It would be better with a dev, but since I never saw the past times of the MxO I miss nothing atm. Okay Live Events and meeting the Live Chars would be great, but when you never saw this times, you think different about the whole Game. This is my personal oppinion about this.
:: Applauds:: Attaplayer! Don't let the old-timers going on like a bunch of cane-waving grouchy old ladies saying, "Well, back in *MY* day..." get you down.
I direct your attention here for your answer:
http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/...mp;#36300553260
DarkDevil1986 wrote:As a new player I say: 1. No - The Game is dead when the Servers are down forever. But right now there are enough players around the Servers. And newcomers are on there way into the MxO.2. No - It´s never to late to do something. Well the Story is in the hand of the players. But I think that isn´t a big problem. Okay It would be better with a dev, but since I never saw the past times of the MxO I miss nothing atm. Okay Live Events and meeting the Live Chars would be great, but when you never saw this times, you think different about the whole Game. This is my personal oppinion about this.:: Applauds:: Attaplayer! Don't let the old-timers going on like a bunch of cane-waving grouchy old ladies saying, "Well, back in *MY* day..." get you down.
Great advice! Here here. Never let anyone tell you how things were or how things could be again. Accept nothing and like it. Ignorance is bliss!
1/ Kinda. Certainly in the ER/A&E on the point of needing large paddles attaching to the nips and massive amounts of current being shocked through it.
Amad3us wrote:
I'm just confused as to what the big differences are since Rarebit left. I mean, hasn't it been like this for....a while? Why all the uproar about it now that he's gone? From what I understand, wasn't exactly the cool kids' table when he was here...
Yep, this is what I remember too. No plotline for weeks, if not months, and precious little else to shout about. Which leads me on to...
2/ Nothing is impossible. Right now, SOE are benefiting from the fact that those of us who remain do so because a) Wizards of the Coast are morons who chose the least popular of three worlds to base their single MMO in; b) WoW looks like a cartoon series on a Saturday morning aimed at seven year-olds with a weird fusion of medieval and 20th century technology; and c) those of us who love the verisimilitude of The Matrix, REALLY love it and don't want it to die, because it's better and more believable (not to mention it contains more actual meaning) than any other setting or MMO “universe”.
Right now I resent the smeg out of the fact that I have to pay money to a corporation I regard as a bunch of niggardly, badly managing, wilfully destructive con-merchants. “Have” to pay, I hear you ask? Well obviously I have the choice to cancel my account and depressingly enough, I've heard of a lot of regular players, some dating back as far as Beta doing just that. But I don't WANT to. I WANT to continue gaming in the Matrix. I WANT to keep paying my subscription and providing my bit of income to the providers, like a good little bluepill in my pod. But when you consider the amount of support every other MMO gives their players (which is to say they give them anything at all, or even acknowledge their existence), it makes me sick. SOE are getting paid, by us, for giving us server space I could have for free on Second Life.
I'm luckier than some: I still have storyline to catch up on in the archives, I still have rewards to win. But they won't be unattained forever and eventually an overly expensive avatar-based chat room is all I'll have.
I feel we're unwanted, discarded and held in utter contempt by the people whose pockets we're lining for nothing, in return for something an ad banner or six wouldn't pay for. God knows, I've criticised decisions Rarebit made (quite a few of them in fact), but at least up until the final couple of months of his stewardship he bothered the make them at all! (What he was doing in those final weeks, besides considering where to go on his next holiday or choosing a therapist to help him recover from BeenworkingmybacksideoffbecausemycompanygivesmejackbackupandIenduphavingtoworkaseventeenhourday Syndrome, I've yet to discover.)
The longer this situation continues, the longer SOE ignores us, it's customers, the more people will leave and the fewer new ones will sign up. If something is going to be done to save the gaming universe we all love and re-start little “luxuries” like a plot and the occasional LE, it's got to be done sooner rather than later.
For God's sake SOE, no-one expects the level and degree of service that Blizzard affords to WoW, because that game has so many subscribers most of their Vice Presidents can probably afford their own islands by now, but some service, any service at all, would be kind of appreciated, you know? Unless of course what you ARE actually trying to do is force the game to shut down so you can be relieved of that onerous obligation you never wanted, but were forced to take because you wanted the DC franchise. But perish the thought....... right?