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I'm also going to add, that i like many have played the game since 2005, i've seen certain servers die down at times i've seen servers flourish at times, Recursion is dead and why you would try and dispute that in a thread spanning 36 pages discussing a merge, which is much needed for the game i'll never know.

It's never going to happen surely by now you must realise that moaning hasnt done anything either, Walrus still hasnt replied after all this time with his Producers letter, you have heard nothing meaningful from any SOE representative since Rarebit left the game, and it's not likely for them to spend resources on Mxo anymore especially for a merge.

The only thing you're really doing is putting new players off from trying the game with your constant negativity and "crying" on the game forums.

Yes you have the right to Complain and express your opinion, but if you're going to do it over and over on the forums you're better off taking your money elsewhere.

 

 




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Endomorph wrote:

I'm also going to add, that i like many have played the game since 2005, i've seen certain servers die down at times i've seen servers flourish at times, Recursion is dead and why you would try and dispute that in a thread spanning 36 pages discussing a merge, which is much needed for the game i'll never know.

It's never going to happen surely by now you must realise that moaning hasnt done anything either, Walrus still hasnt replied after all this time with his Producers letter, you have heard nothing meaningful from any SOE representative since Rarebit left the game, and it's not likely for them to spend resources on Mxo anymore especially for a merge.

The only thing you're really doing is putting new players off from trying the game with your constant negativity and "crying" on the game forums.

Yes you have the right to Complain and express your opinion, but if you're going to do it over and over on the forums you're better off taking your money elsewhere.

 

 

Actually its become pretty much a consensus, that there be a server merge, which is nice because we're all pretty much on the same page.  If there's a 0.0001% chance of SOE doing a merge, that is if they are serious about maintaining this game's functionality (even if its a "Legacy" or "Attic" game at this point), then how is that a bad thing?  If not, maybe we should close the "Development Roundtable" section entirely.


Message edited by Villemar_MxO on 04/17/2009 09:28:34.



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Villemar_MxO wrote:

Endomorph wrote:

I'm also going to add, that i like many have played the game since 2005, i've seen certain servers die down at times i've seen servers flourish at times, Recursion is dead and why you would try and dispute that in a thread spanning 36 pages discussing a merge, which is much needed for the game i'll never know.

It's never going to happen surely by now you must realise that moaning hasnt done anything either, Walrus still hasnt replied after all this time with his Producers letter, you have heard nothing meaningful from any SOE representative since Rarebit left the game, and it's not likely for them to spend resources on Mxo anymore especially for a merge.

The only thing you're really doing is putting new players off from trying the game with your constant negativity and "crying" on the game forums.

Yes you have the right to Complain and express your opinion, but if you're going to do it over and over on the forums you're better off taking your money elsewhere.

 

 

Actually its become pretty much a consensus, that there be a server merge, which is nice because we're all pretty much on the same page.

That's good, but you still have people posting defending there servers activity which isnt so good if you're asking for a merge.

If there's a 0.0001% chance of SOE doing a merge, that is if they are serious about maintaining this game's functionality (even if its a "Legacy" or "Attic" game at this point), then how is that a bad thing?

Asking for a merge isnt the problem it's more to the fact that everyone feels the need to complain about it as often and in any thread they can, it's easier just to bring it to Virrago's attention or PM him on a regular basis to see if he has any news and let him be our voice, he is our middle man.

Like i said all the complaining over and over in 20 different threads is only putting off new players.

If not, maybe we should close the "Development Roundtable" section entirely.

No Developer - No reason to discuss ideas for Development.

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Message edited by Endomorph on 04/17/2009 09:37:35.



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Endomorph wrote:

Villemar_MxO wrote:

Endomorph wrote:

I'm also going to add, that i like many have played the game since 2005, i've seen certain servers die down at times i've seen servers flourish at times, Recursion is dead and why you would try and dispute that in a thread spanning 36 pages discussing a merge, which is much needed for the game i'll never know.

It's never going to happen surely by now you must realise that moaning hasnt done anything either, Walrus still hasnt replied after all this time with his Producers letter, you have heard nothing meaningful from any SOE representative since Rarebit left the game, and it's not likely for them to spend resources on Mxo anymore especially for a merge.

The only thing you're really doing is putting new players off from trying the game with your constant negativity and "crying" on the game forums.

Yes you have the right to Complain and express your opinion, but if you're going to do it over and over on the forums you're better off taking your money elsewhere.

 

 

Actually its become pretty much a consensus, that there be a server merge, which is nice because we're all pretty much on the same page.

That's good, but you still have people posting defending there servers activity which isnt so good if you're asking for a merge.

If there's a 0.0001% chance of SOE doing a merge, that is if they are serious about maintaining this game's functionality (even if its a "Legacy" or "Attic" game at this point), then how is that a bad thing?

Asking for a merge isnt the problem it's more to the fact that everyone feels the need to complain about it as often and in any thread they can, it's easier just to bring it to Virrago's attention or PM him on a regular basis to see if he has any news and let him be our voice, he is our middle man.

Like i said all the complaining over and over in 20 different threads is only putting off new players.

If not, maybe we should close the "Development Roundtable" section entirely.

No Developer - No reason to discuss ideas for Development.

Edit: Text Colour.

I actually already asked if there is any reason at all for keep this forum going as it is. Maybe a change of the forum would be a better idea then just close it. The question is, why have a forum where we are 99% sure not to get a respond on what we ask about. It's not even fun anymore then imo.

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Endomorph wrote:

Recursion is dead and why you would try and dispute that in a thread spanning 36 pages discussing a merge, which is much needed for the game i'll never know.

It's never going to happen surely by now you must realise that moaning hasnt done anything either, Walrus still hasnt replied after all this time with his Producers letter, you have heard nothing meaningful from any SOE representative since Rarebit left the game, and it's not likely for them to spend resources on Mxo anymore especially for a merge.

There we have that bigoted lie again.  I'm not "disputing it," I've already disproven it repeatedly by siting the lively activities that happen on Recursion every day.  There is a group of players that has been running a smear campaign of lies against Recursion since before the Assassin('s) Mask scam and this is just the continuation of that false agenda.  They would like nothing better than to see Recursion die, especially if their lies help it to happen.  These people have been telling their deceptions and spreading misleading information for a long time now; it's long past time for someone to stand up and call them on it.  Unless you have some proof that Recursion is dead, like say 24 consecutive hours when absolutely no one logs in to it, then you have nothing behind your propaganda, especially in the face of the repeated proof of life and activity on Recursion.  (In just the time it's taken to type this message, four people have IMed me asking me to join them for activities on Recursion.)

I have heard meaningful things from reps since Rarebit left.  It was at the Anniversary party, so don't presume to tell me what I have and have not heard. The game may or may not "need" a merge but the point is moot because it's never going to happen. There will never be a merge because there is no one at SOE who knows how to merge MxO servers.  So, yes, this thread should be closed.  The consensus on Recursion, our active and alive server, is that we don't want a merge, so the majority there is pleased that it can't and won't happen.  We have a play style all our own and don't want to be homogenized into the play style that centers around Mara Central.  If there were a merge, it would be take two communities with unique characteristics and mash them into something that has the flavor of neither.  There would be issues of reconciliation and frankly, I don't want everyone on the same server.  Recursion is our home, and we play there the way we like and choose to.  Just like Syntax is other people's home, and it should and will stay that way because they don't want us there mucking up their play style any more than we want them traipsing around in ours.  Variety is the spice of life, conformity is death.




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PS10N wrote:

Endomorph wrote:

Recursion is dead and why you would try and dispute that in a thread spanning 36 pages discussing a merge, which is much needed for the game i'll never know.

It's never going to happen surely by now you must realise that moaning hasnt done anything either, Walrus still hasnt replied after all this time with his Producers letter, you have heard nothing meaningful from any SOE representative since Rarebit left the game, and it's not likely for them to spend resources on Mxo anymore especially for a merge.

There we have that bigoted lie again.  I'm not "disputing it," I've already disproven it repeatedly by siting the lively activities that happen on Recursion every day.  There is a group of players that has been running a smear campaign of lies against Recursion since before the Assassin('s) Mask scam and this is just the continuation of that false agenda.  They would like nothing better than to see Recursion die, especially if their lies help it to happen.  These people have been telling their deceptions and spreading misleading information for a long time now; it's long past time for someone to stand up and call them on it.  Unless you have some proof that Recursion is dead, like say 24 consecutive hours when absolutely no one logs in to it, then you have nothing behind your propaganda, especially in the face of the repeated proof of life and activity on Recursion.  (In just the time it's taken to type this message, four people have IMed me asking me to join them for activities on Recursion.)

I have heard meaningful things from reps since Rarebit left.  It was at the Anniversary party, so don't presume to tell me what I have and have not heard. The game may or may not "need" a merge but the point is moot because it's never going to happen. There will never be a merge because there is no one at SOE who knows how to merge MxO servers.  So, yes, this thread should be closed.  The consensus on Recursion, our active and alive server, is that we don't want a merge, so the majority there is pleased that it can't and won't happen.  We have a play style all our own and don't want to be homogenized into the play style that centers around Mara Central.  If there were a merge, it would be take two communities with unique characteristics and mash them into something that has the flavor of neither.  There would be issues of reconciliation and frankly, I don't want everyone on the same server.  Recursion is our home, and we play there the way we like and choose to.  Just like Syntax is other people's home, and it should and will stay that way because they don't want us there mucking up their play style any more than we want them traipsing around in ours.  Variety is the spice of life, conformity is death.


Whether your right about Recursion being "alive"or not (its all in the eye of the beholder admittedly), I have a lot of affection for Recursion.  A lot of us built up something nice on Recursion while taking a break from Vector in 2007, and up until Nov 2008 I'd always run my zion and mech crits on there every week religiously to keep a full accounting of the storyline and to see old friends.  I was just hoping for a merge because I wanted more people to be on with more people and hence provide more opportunities for growth.  (Besides, Rec and Syn have the same ruleset). 

I'm not saying you do this but I've been dismayed at some of the fierce territoriality between the two servers.  Some people seem to think if their server has a healthy population everyone else can just /suckitup, too bad, so sad, cry moar, sierra tango foxtrot umbrella, etc.  Not saying a lot or even the majority here but that sentiment that I have seen here has been very disheatening.

Oh well.  Go Vector!    (hides)


Message edited by Villemar_MxO on 04/17/2009 13:47:13.



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Croesis wrote:

So a merge is out of the question..

I don't suppose there is any way I can get the three character slots I have wasted on Recursion and make them available on Syntax or even Vector?

I've got 2 lvl 50's on Syntax with the last one half way. I've even started to venture out on Vector so I get the best of both rulesets.

If Recursionites feel that they're too good to merge with Syntax, if it were possible, then thank god I havent started to level on that server. Can do without the Recursion Pride attitude.

Oh and lol at citing other server events as evidence of Recursion activity.


Message edited by Croesis on 04/17/2009 14:10:58.
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Villemar_MxO wrote:

PS10N wrote:

Endomorph wrote:

Recursion is dead and why you would try and dispute that in a thread spanning 36 pages discussing a merge, which is much needed for the game i'll never know.

It's never going to happen surely by now you must realise that moaning hasnt done anything either, Walrus still hasnt replied after all this time with his Producers letter, you have heard nothing meaningful from any SOE representative since Rarebit left the game, and it's not likely for them to spend resources on Mxo anymore especially for a merge.

There we have that bigoted lie again.  I'm not "disputing it," I've already disproven it repeatedly by siting the lively activities that happen on Recursion every day.  There is a group of players that has been running a smear campaign of lies against Recursion since before the Assassin('s) Mask scam and this is just the continuation of that false agenda.  They would like nothing better than to see Recursion die, especially if their lies help it to happen.  These people have been telling their deceptions and spreading misleading information for a long time now; it's long past time for someone to stand up and call them on it.  Unless you have some proof that Recursion is dead, like say 24 consecutive hours when absolutely no one logs in to it, then you have nothing behind your propaganda, especially in the face of the repeated proof of life and activity on Recursion.  (In just the time it's taken to type this message, four people have IMed me asking me to join them for activities on Recursion.)

I have heard meaningful things from reps since Rarebit left.  It was at the Anniversary party, so don't presume to tell me what I have and have not heard. The game may or may not "need" a merge but the point is moot because it's never going to happen. There will never be a merge because there is no one at SOE who knows how to merge MxO servers.  So, yes, this thread should be closed.  The consensus on Recursion, our active and alive server, is that we don't want a merge, so the majority there is pleased that it can't and won't happen.  We have a play style all our own and don't want to be homogenized into the play style that centers around Mara Central.  If there were a merge, it would be take two communities with unique characteristics and mash them into something that has the flavor of neither.  There would be issues of reconciliation and frankly, I don't want everyone on the same server.  Recursion is our home, and we play there the way we like and choose to.  Just like Syntax is other people's home, and it should and will stay that way because they don't want us there mucking up their play style any more than we want them traipsing around in ours.  Variety is the spice of life, conformity is death.


Whether your right about Recursion being "alive"or not (its all in the eye of the beholder admittedly), I have a lot of affection for Recursion.  A lot of us built up something nice on Recursion while taking a break from Vector in 2007, and up until Nov 2008 I'd always run my zion and mech crits on there every week religiously to keep a full accounting of the storyline and to see old friends.  I was just hoping for a merge because I wanted more people to be on with more people and hence provide more opportunities for growth.  (Besides, Rec and Syn have the same ruleset). 

I'm not saying you do this but I've been dismayed at some of the fierce territoriality between the two servers.  Some people seem to think if their server has a healthy population everyone else can just /suckitup, too bad, so sad, cry moar, sierra tango foxtrot umbrella, etc.  Not saying a lot or even the majority here but that sentiment that I have seen here has been very disheatening.

Oh well.  Go Vector!    (hides)

Who's your character on Recursion, Villy?




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PS10N wrote:

Endomorph wrote:

Recursion is dead and why you would try and dispute that in a thread spanning 36 pages discussing a merge, which is much needed for the game i'll never know.

It's never going to happen surely by now you must realise that moaning hasnt done anything either, Walrus still hasnt replied after all this time with his Producers letter, you have heard nothing meaningful from any SOE representative since Rarebit left the game, and it's not likely for them to spend resources on Mxo anymore especially for a merge.

There we have that bigoted lie again.  I'm not "disputing it," I've already disproven it repeatedly by siting the lively activities that happen on Recursion every day.  There is a group of players that has been running a smear campaign of lies against Recursion since before the Assassin('s) Mask scam and this is just the continuation of that false agenda.  They would like nothing better than to see Recursion die, especially if their lies help it to happen.  These people have been telling their deceptions and spreading misleading information for a long time now; it's long past time for someone to stand up and call them on it.  Unless you have some proof that Recursion is dead, like say 24 consecutive hours when absolutely no one logs in to it, then you have nothing behind your propaganda, especially in the face of the repeated proof of life and activity on Recursion.  (In just the time it's taken to type this message, four people have IMed me asking me to join them for activities on Recursion.)

I have heard meaningful things from reps since Rarebit left.  It was at the Anniversary party, so don't presume to tell me what I have and have not heard. The game may or may not "need" a merge but the point is moot because it's never going to happen. There will never be a merge because there is no one at SOE who knows how to merge MxO servers.  So, yes, this thread should be closed.  The consensus on Recursion, our active and alive server, is that we don't want a merge, so the majority there is pleased that it can't and won't happen.  We have a play style all our own and don't want to be homogenized into the play style that centers around Mara Central.  If there were a merge, it would be take two communities with unique characteristics and mash them into something that has the flavor of neither.  There would be issues of reconciliation and frankly, I don't want everyone on the same server.  Recursion is our home, and we play there the way we like and choose to.  Just like Syntax is other people's home, and it should and will stay that way because they don't want us there mucking up their play style any more than we want them traipsing around in ours.  Variety is the spice of life, conformity is death.

If you feel this strongly about someone elses opinion i suggest you take a break from the game and step into reality.




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Endomorph wrote:

PS10N wrote:

Endomorph wrote:

Recursion is dead and why you would try and dispute that in a thread spanning 36 pages discussing a merge, which is much needed for the game i'll never know.

It's never going to happen surely by now you must realise that moaning hasnt done anything either, Walrus still hasnt replied after all this time with his Producers letter, you have heard nothing meaningful from any SOE representative since Rarebit left the game, and it's not likely for them to spend resources on Mxo anymore especially for a merge.

There we have that bigoted lie again.  I'm not "disputing it," I've already disproven it repeatedly by siting the lively activities that happen on Recursion every day.  There is a group of players that has been running a smear campaign of lies against Recursion since before the Assassin('s) Mask scam and this is just the continuation of that false agenda.  They would like nothing better than to see Recursion die, especially if their lies help it to happen.  These people have been telling their deceptions and spreading misleading information for a long time now; it's long past time for someone to stand up and call them on it.  Unless you have some proof that Recursion is dead, like say 24 consecutive hours when absolutely no one logs in to it, then you have nothing behind your propaganda, especially in the face of the repeated proof of life and activity on Recursion.  (In just the time it's taken to type this message, four people have IMed me asking me to join them for activities on Recursion.)

I have heard meaningful things from reps since Rarebit left.  It was at the Anniversary party, so don't presume to tell me what I have and have not heard. The game may or may not "need" a merge but the point is moot because it's never going to happen. There will never be a merge because there is no one at SOE who knows how to merge MxO servers.  So, yes, this thread should be closed.  The consensus on Recursion, our active and alive server, is that we don't want a merge, so the majority there is pleased that it can't and won't happen.  We have a play style all our own and don't want to be homogenized into the play style that centers around Mara Central.  If there were a merge, it would be take two communities with unique characteristics and mash them into something that has the flavor of neither.  There would be issues of reconciliation and frankly, I don't want everyone on the same server.  Recursion is our home, and we play there the way we like and choose to.  Just like Syntax is other people's home, and it should and will stay that way because they don't want us there mucking up their play style any more than we want them traipsing around in ours.  Variety is the spice of life, conformity is death.

If you feel this strongly about someone elses opinion i suggest you take a break from the game and step into reality.

 

Come on People! I have better things to do than make up stuff and post it on a forum!(Like my college classes, my job, my boyfriend, my family and my friends!)


Message edited by Silenci0 on 04/17/2009 16:41:04.



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Silencio, perhaps you'd care to explain what a quote from BadKiity's post referring to the flaming we received from a Live Event IC post from last year has anything at all to do with the subject of the thread or the current discussion.  You've posted it twice now, and the first time it was easily ignored as being obviously irrelevant and contextually meaningless, but since you posted it again, I'm curious as to your thinking on how it applies to this dialogue about a server merge or how the population/activity of a server or servers relates to the need for a merge.

Endomorph wrote:

If you feel this strongly about someone elses opinion i suggest you take a break from the game and step into reality.

This is a great opportunity to teach those who haven't been involved in official debates or who don't have 26 years of experience dealing with electronic forums.  When someone who is debating ignores the counter-points to their argument, ignores the proof presented by their opponent and basically just ignores the issue all together and instead throws out an insult, it means they've got nothing left which can counter the argument they've just been presented with.  It's known as an ad hominem attack, and is also coincidentally against the forum guidelines. As for your "suggestion," it shows a severe lack of knowledge and understanding of my current reality, which would actually benefit from some time away from responsibilities to be able to play MxO for an extended stretch.

Villemar, I appreciate your civility and continuing the discussion on topic.  I've never heard of any case of life or death being in the eye of the beholder.  A plant, animal or person is either alive or dead: there is no in-between state except in cases where the heart stopped and was later restarted, in which case the person didn't die, wasn't dead. Even someone who is clinically brain dead has not been declared dead; is still alive.  All the signs of life on Recursion are proof that it's alive; it's not a matter of opinion.   (Whether or not there should be a merge and if server population/activity affects the need for a merge IS a matter of opinion, and is the subject of our current debate on this thread.) 

I'm glad a lot of Vectorites came to Recursion for their off-org alts, to run the critical missions, etc.  I hope that the Recursion community made you feel welcome and joined in your adventures.  I wish I could say the same for our excursions into Syntax, but the welcome has been spotty.  Catzi and people involved in like vein are to be commended for their efforts and made us feel very welcome on Syntax at the recent party.  Something would be missing from MxO if there wasn't another server to occasionally visit and get the fresh feeling of being in a different place with different people. The two servers may have the same rule set, but they have a decidedly different feel or flavor (because of the people who "main" there, and the factions which exist there but not on the other) This sense of being somewhere else is dependent on them remaining separate servers. 

I'd like to hear from Syntax and Vector people about their population/activities. (BTW, citing "other" server events wasn't brought up as evidence of Recursion activity, but as a refute to the other white lie "MxO is dead.")  Let's ALL provide more opportunities for growth on ALL of MxO's servers.  I'll be coming by Syntax more, and -gasp- may roll onto Vector, at the urging of one of my faction who's active there.  With 18 RSI slots shared between BadKiity and myself, we have a wide variety of RSIs on all servers; maybe it's time they got some excercise.

bartle doo?
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I just wonder what this is all about...

 




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PS10N wrote:

Silencio, perhaps you'd care to explain what a quote from BadKiity's post referring to the flaming we received from a Live Event IC post from last year has anything at all to do with the subject of the thread or the current discussion.  You've posted it twice now, and the first time it was easily ignored as being obviously irrelevant and contextually meaningless, but since you posted it again, I'm curious as to your thinking on how it applies to this dialogue about a server merge or how the population/activity of a server or servers relates to the need for a merge.

Endomorph wrote:

If you feel this strongly about someone elses opinion i suggest you take a break from the game and step into reality.

This is a great opportunity to teach those who haven't been involved in official debates or who don't have 26 years of experience dealing with electronic forums.  When someone who is debating ignores the counter-points to their argument, ignores the proof presented by their opponent and basically just ignores the issue all together and instead throws out an insult, it means they've got nothing left which can counter the argument they've just been presented with.  It's known as an ad hominem attack, and is also coincidentally against the forum guidelines. As for your "suggestion," it shows a severe lack of knowledge and understanding of my current reality, which would actually benefit from some time away from responsibilities to be able to play MxO for an extended stretch.

Villemar, I appreciate your civility and continuing the discussion on topic.  I've never heard of any case of life or death being in the eye of the beholder.  A plant, animal or person is either alive or dead: there is no in-between state except in cases where the heart stopped and was later restarted, in which case the person didn't die, wasn't dead. Even someone who is clinically brain dead has not been declared dead; is still alive.  All the signs of life on Recursion are proof that it's alive; it's not a matter of opinion.   (Whether or not there should be a merge and if server population/activity affects the need for a merge IS a matter of opinion, and is the subject of our current debate on this thread.) 

I'm glad a lot of Vectorites came to Recursion for their off-org alts, to run the critical missions, etc.  I hope that the Recursion community made you feel welcome and joined in your adventures.  I wish I could say the same for our excursions into Syntax, but the welcome has been spotty.  Catzi and people involved in like vein are to be commended for their efforts and made us feel very welcome on Syntax at the recent party.  Something would be missing from MxO if there wasn't another server to occasionally visit and get the fresh feeling of being in a different place with different people. The two servers may have the same rule set, but they have a decidedly different feel or flavor (because of the people who "main" there, and the factions which exist there but not on the other) This sense of being somewhere else is dependent on them remaining separate servers. 

I'd like to hear from Syntax and Vector people about their population/activities. (BTW, citing "other" server events wasn't brought up as evidence of Recursion activity, but as a refute to the other white lie "MxO is dead.")  Let's ALL provide more opportunities for growth on ALL of MxO's servers.  I'll be coming by Syntax more, and -gasp- may roll onto Vector, at the urging of one of my faction who's active there.  With 18 RSI slots shared between BadKiity and myself, we have a wide variety of RSIs on all servers; maybe it's time they got some excercise.

bartle doo?
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Quote for effect.

My main in on Recursion and I've leveled a 50 on Syntax. I have really had a warm welcome there by everyone I have interacted with. The catch may be that I have not revealed to anyone that it is actually Vesuveus at the keyboard.

Considering I have a 50 on 2 servers, I am in favor of a merge. In short, and previously stated, I am in favor of 1 hostile, 1 non-hostile and wish to choose which character to play and which server to jack into.

I really believe that most differences can be put aside. The only way to get there is together, right?

My pesimistic side says that there must be a place to get to and really doesn't believe there is a place this game is going. But population-wise, RP-wise and community-wise, there are reasons why I would like the merge and would like to be an ambassador of a merge.

Why would I be an ambassador of a merge, you may ask? There is a Syntax faction that I have previously accused of being a carbon copy of my Recusion faction. For years we have remained separate and civil and I see no reason why this little beef cannot be examplary of the larger server rivalry that has developed for whatever reasons.

Edit: Separate and civil, on the same server, edit to clarify. :oP


Message edited by Vesuveus on 04/17/2009 19:41:32.



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PS10N wrote:

Silencio, perhaps you'd care to explain what a quote from BadKiity's post referring to the flaming we received from a Live Event IC post from last year has anything at all to do with the subject of the thread or the current discussion.  You've posted it twice now, and the first time it was easily ignored as being obviously irrelevant and contextually meaningless, but since you posted it again, I'm curious as to your thinking on how it applies to this dialogue about a server merge or how the population/activity of a server or servers relates to the need for a merge.

Endomorph wrote:

If you feel this strongly about someone elses opinion i suggest you take a break from the game and step into reality.

This is a great opportunity to teach those who haven't been involved in official debates or who don't have 26 years of experience dealing with electronic forums.

What Official debates? and how exactly does your experience in dealing with "Electronic forums" help discuss a merge?

When someone who is debating ignores the counter-points to their argument, ignores the proof presented by their opponent and basically just ignores the issue all together and instead throws out an insult, it means they've got nothing left which can counter the argument they've just been presented with.

No it means like alot of people I'm grateful i have a job and i intend to keep it so i couldnt say much before leaving, the points you have presented is a list of players names you listed what? 15-20 people? and these people can't be on 24 hours a day the server is like Silent hill i was on there earlier what you consider dead and what i consider dead are two different things.

It's known as an ad hominem attack, and is also coincidentally against the forum guidelines. As for your "suggestion," it shows a severe lack of knowledge and understanding of my current reality, which would actually benefit from some time away from responsibilities to be able to play MxO for an extended stretch.

For you to have to write walls of text out and claim propaganda on a low pop videogame and appear to be even getting worked up is comical.

Villemar, I appreciate your civility and continuing the discussion on topic.  I've never heard of any case of life or death being in the eye of the beholder.  A plant, animal or person is either alive or dead: there is no in-between state except in cases where the heart stopped and was later restarted, in which case the person didn't die, wasn't dead. Even someone who is clinically brain dead has not been declared dead; is still alive.  All the signs of life on Recursion are proof that it's alive; it's not a matter of opinion.   (Whether or not there should be a merge and if server population/activity affects the need for a merge IS a matter of opinion, and is the subject of our current debate on this thread.) 

I'm glad a lot of Vectorites came to Recursion for their off-org alts, to run the critical missions, etc.  I hope that the Recursion community made you feel welcome and joined in your adventures.  I wish I could say the same for our excursions into Syntax, but the welcome has been spotty.  Catzi and people involved in like vein are to be commended for their efforts and made us feel very welcome on Syntax at the recent party.  Something would be missing from MxO if there wasn't another server to occasionally visit and get the fresh feeling of being in a different place with different people. The two servers may have the same rule set, but they have a decidedly different feel or flavor (because of the people who "main" there, and the factions which exist there but not on the other) This sense of being somewhere else is dependent on them remaining separate servers. 

I'd like to hear from Syntax and Vector people about their population/activities. (BTW, citing "other" server events wasn't brought up as evidence of Recursion activity, but as a refute to the other white lie "MxO is dead.")  Let's ALL provide more opportunities for growth on ALL of MxO's servers.  I'll be coming by Syntax more, and -gasp- may roll onto Vector, at the urging of one of my faction who's active there.  With 18 RSI slots shared between BadKiity and myself, we have a wide variety of RSIs on all servers; maybe it's time they got some excercise.

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Message edited by Endomorph on 04/17/2009 21:20:12.



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There won't be a merge because it can't be done. That's really all there is to it. And it has already been said by Walrus at the Anniversary event that it won't happen.

The last merge was done by WB/Monolith right before they sold the game to SOE. SOE doesn't have the personnel or resources to do a merge, they didn't get all the developers for this game from Monolith when they bought the game from WB who was the majority shareholder in Monolith at that time. SOE got just a few of the original developers with the purchase of MxO and it's been said many times over the years that there isn't anyone here who knows enough about the code do a lot of the things we players would like to see done.

 

 
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