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Jacked Out

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I was thinking about this a while ago.  Since the truce there have been many humans released from the Matrix, many are discontent with the ways of Zion.  Those aligned with the Merovingian or the Machines, wouldn't be caught dead in Zion.

So I was wondering what do you all think about the possiblites of cities created by Merovingian operatives and Machine operatives?

The way I see it, the Machines would build their city close to 01 and I think Merovingian operatives would build a city somewhere in between 01 and Zion on the surface (wouldn't be caught dead in a cave for too long).


Transcendent

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I think it could be possible, but building a city on the surface for merovingian operative.

Remember the sky filter the sun, and zion is build underground for the heat, cause the surface is cold, and i dont think any human life can resist for so much at those temperature.

Obviously is just a mine opinion




Jacked Out

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You dont have to build underground for heat. If you were to build close to an active volcano, or a place where you could use geothemal energy you wouldnt have much to worry about in terms of heat. For machine city, I would imagine that with all the energy they pump out from the matrix towers that it would be a drop in the bucket to divert some energy to heating an area for their operatives.

Concerning Zion, I think it was more for defense from the machine attack (and perhaps a phycological thing the machines were doing) that zion was underground. If you recall, at the temple they had huge cracks with a red glove comeing out, implying exposer to molten rock flows, which would have most likely heated most if not a portion of zion if channeled properly. Point being they were using geo thermal heat to keep warm, something that you can do on the surface now in the time of the truce and not worry about a machine attack.



Jacked Out

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maybe they could live in regulated domes on the surface, conserving heat gathered from the sun or geothermal sources

there were people living on the pre-truce times according to one of the shorts in the animatrix


Systemic Anomaly

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It has long been roleplayed that the sympathyzers of the causes of both the Machines and the Merovingian have established outposts outside of Zion. These outposts contain the bare essentials for sustaining human life and a hovercraft fleet. Of course, their benefactors would support these outposts as much as necessary, but as you may have guessed, the Machines and the Merovingian is not very. . .caring. . .with regards to the plight of humans, even the ones that work for them.

There is a well-known RP faction whose story is that of the ressurection of human civilization on the surface. Abaddon has become iconic for the idea of a new surface city.

Check out Pyraci's latest on the city of Abaddon.

There are some older stories in this thread.




Femme Fatale

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I would think there are outposts, but no real cities.

 

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This is an exciting topic and I gave a great deal of thought at it before your post and I would add this question, why isn't there better technology?

At this point is my belief that the Zion faction is the only one that extracts red pills.

Gray and Flood comments when they contact you make me think they do not really have extraction facilities as such.

At this point, the question is if Zion is a free port and I think is safe to assume that Merovingian and Machine HvCFTs land regularly in Zion for refueling and operatives use as well the large broadcasting centers that were developed after the truce.

I think is not realistic to assume there are other cites because of the logistical barriers, the Zion that lasted the most in previous incarnation lasted 72 hours so the question at this point is, were they destroyed and beyond repair or Zion was rebuilt at the same location.

If option 1 is true, is fair to say that scavengers could build a life there with a bit of effort but nothing more that a Spartan outpost as the resources to build a proper city are really beyond the humans.  

At this point, especially after the last confrontation at the end of Matrix Revolution, the damage sustained was massive and I am sure Zion is not recovered 100% yet.

Merovingian cities, because of the nature of the Faction I think they are unlikely; Machine cities with humans, possible but not effective in my opinion, machine are better off to have operatives in and out Zion... just in case the war starts again.

I guess another question is if Zion control actually knows which HvCFT belongs to which faction.  

I think is unlikely and consequently, I think Zion is a free port and probably the only city.

Lastly, any RP reasoning can justify anything and outpost are certainly possible but logically I do not think at this stage cities exist, while maybe in 100 years or so things could be very different.

One interesting point is, if Zion is the only city and it is growing since the truce.

As they can use more resources to R&D and infrastructural growth, it is likely they are growing and improving now more than before as they are not in a constant survival/war mode. 


Message edited by Shayel on 11/02/2006 01:24:55.

 
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